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run2jeepn · 06-17-2007, 11:57 PM

Well I'm starting a new thread. Again....

The Plan here is to make the most Capable 2.2 Clod Crawler thats possible. I'm sparing nothing. Already sold my soul...

Spec's: For Stage One

Clod Axles:
Mod'ed Hot-Racing axle Tubes, Mod'ed and Powder Coated Integy Gear Cases, Integy Steel gears and Lockers, Yeah Racing bearings, Jp Custom Rc's Knuckles, TTR CVD and Straight axles mod'ed for 14mm Hex's.

Chassis:
2.2 Pimp Cane

Electronics:
DX6 Radio gear, Dual Mamba Max ESC's, MPI Voltage Reg, Tower Pro MG945, 2 Crawlmaster Brushless Motors, Lipo Battery pack

Wheels and Tires:
2.2 Jordans Different Pattern then whats being Sold.
Erickson 2.2 Beadlocks Mod'ed for 14mm Hex's, Dual inner rings
Foam Set up is Kreepy Krawlers

Pic's Coming Soon...................................

Money invested? Anyone want to guess... It would cost close to $1,500.00 or more, but I have connections... There is no way I could afford to build this if I didn't.

As stated above this is just Stage one. Stage two will be soon after. Stage two will envolve a few new Custom Parts and to improve anything in Stage one that might needed it.

run2jeepn · 06-18-2007, 12:52 AM

First thing I did was bolt up my New Knuckles and Axle Tubes. The Axle Tubes I went with are Hot-Racing. Unlike RC4WD and Integy's Tubes. These are made to work with Clod knuckles not just there own. Which is a good thing for me. My Knuckles bolted right up with ease. No problems or Issues.

The only thing I needed to do was find a way to get more Steering out of the Tubes. Even with my knuckles. The Steering arm would hit the inner part of the axle C's. I looked at them for a while and came up with this.

I wished I took more pic's. I'll get more of later and post them up.

On the tube itself there is a Flat spot on top. It's there so the Braces have clearance. Well I rotated the C's 45*. That made the Flat spot (Which is marked in Yellow) On the backside of the tubes. I cut off the extra. Which only left me 2 mounting screws. So I drilled and counter sunk 3rd one. Grinded a little of the edge and was done. 10min of work....

Before and After

With the CVD's in. I max out the CVD's before the Knuckles touch anything. This gives me the max steering I can get. Anymore steering would involve different Shafts.

As you can see in the pic below. The tires are turned to there Max. I don't have my Steering links hooked up yet, b/c the BTA kit from TTR hits the housings before the CVD's Max out. So a custom link is needed.

run2jeepn · 06-18-2007, 12:54 AM

Now for the back axle tubes and Shafts. Nothing Special here. Same axle tubes, TTR Straight axles and my Knuckles. I cut of the knuckles steering arm. No need for it.

Bolted everything up and together.

run2jeepn · 06-18-2007, 01:00 AM

Wheels and Tires

Went with 2.2 Jordans again. Went wider this time. I think I may narrow them 1/2in.

I went with Erickson 2.2 Clod beadlocks. Made a new Inner ring for 14mm hex's.

run2jeepn · 06-18-2007, 01:09 AM

I used LST2 14mm Adaptors for my 14mm Mod. Thanks for Mnster for this trick.

Pretty simple little mod really. Just drill out the hole on the shaft to match the new Pins that come with the LST2 kit. I think it's 1/8th bit.

Then make a groove around the new Hex's for the O-Ring to set in. I used a Dremel and a cut off wheel.

Slide them on. Then cut the extra part of the axles that stick out now. Doing this mod also shortens your overall track width by 1/4in..

You will need either a spacer or washer to keep the bearings in the knuckles from sliding out.

run2jeepn · 06-18-2007, 01:16 AM

Next little trick.... With the wider tires and CVD's. I was right at 12.5in. I'm at 12in at this point with the 14mm mod and the new Beadlocks. This helped more then I thought it would. All I did was widen the inner part of the wheel. This brings the tire more to the center of the rig. With these beadlocks its simple. I mounted the outsides like normal. Then on the inside I placed one ring. Then the tire. Then sandwiched the tire with another ring. I pulled on the tires pretty good and thet held in there fine. I'm going to mod the rings to have more bitting power later.

You can see how much closer the wheel is to the knuckles

Before

After

Can't get any closer then that and believe it or not. This shorten my track width by almost 1/2in. So by doing these 3 cheap and easy mods. I gained back 3/4in...

run2jeepn · 06-18-2007, 01:20 AM

Here's the Electronics

I mod'ed my DX6 to have a return to center left stick. I had a spare DX6 laying around for parts. So the mod was way to easy.

And the CrawlMaster beside my old Lathes

Mounted the axles to the new chassis and bolted up my old wheels. I'm still waiting on some rings and new foams for my new tires.

Highmark · 06-18-2007, 01:59 AM

Awesome....

I hate seeing builds where guys just dump a ton of money into a rig and expect it to perform. It looks like you're putting some serious thought into every component while you build.

I bet it really hurt to cut those nicely annodized knuckles though eh?

LIKES2CRAWL · 06-18-2007, 02:05 AM

Looking good man! I can't wait to see this thing in action.

run2jeepn · 06-18-2007, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highmark

Awesome....

I hate seeing builds where guys just dump a ton of money into a rig and expect it to perform. It looks like you're putting some serious thought into every component while you build.

I bet it really hurt to cut those nicely annodized knuckles though eh?

I know what your talking about. It seems some think that just b/c a part cost twice as much. It must be better. Well I know I've spent some money on this. But every part as had something done to it to make it just a little better.

Just wait till Stage II of this build...

Quote:

Originally Posted by LIKES2CRAWL

Looking good man! I can't wait to see this thing in action.

Man neither can I. It's killing be not having anything to crawl with.:-(

Rckcrwlr · 06-18-2007, 04:38 AM

I'm keeping an eye on this one.

Got to town R2J!!!!!

Cloak · 06-18-2007, 06:45 AM

Dang, I almost pegged each part exactly from the last thread.

I like the extra work done to the Ericksons.

drumbeater · 06-18-2007, 09:03 AM

did you make your own axle braces to mount the servo and electrics on ?

dezfan · 06-18-2007, 09:24 AM

Pffffffft, Clods suck!

run2jeepn · 06-18-2007, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M715ForLife

Did you receycle Leeroy for this?!

Just a few parts really.... I built complete new axles with new Gears... I just took the Mamba Max from Leeroy really. I might Rebuild Leeroy and put a XL-5 back in him with the DUD set up. Seemed to work every well.

run2jeepn · 06-18-2007, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drumbeater

did you make your own axle braces to mount the servo and electrics on ?

No they are RC4wd.... I'm making new ones. They will be seen in Stage II.

drumbeater · 06-19-2007, 12:39 PM

thanks I need to get some new ones.

Destroyer · 06-19-2007, 01:10 PM

Thanks for naming it after me.:-P

andrewmp6 · 06-19-2007, 06:31 PM

looks good thats the most steering i ever seen out of a clod before.btw why did you coat the gear case trying to make it slide better and what did you use to coat it.

run2jeepn · 06-19-2007, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewmp6

looks good thats the most steering i ever seen out of a clod before.btw why did you coat the gear case trying to make it slide better and what did you use to coat it.

No... I used a Dremel to grind of the extra braces and mounts and I went to far.. I have Integy Alumn's on there way...

06-17-2007, 11:57 PM	#1
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	The Destroyer Well I'm starting a new thread. Again.... The Plan here is to make the most Capable 2.2 Clod Crawler thats possible. I'm sparing nothing. Already sold my soul... Spec's: For Stage One Clod Axles: Mod'ed Hot-Racing axle Tubes, Mod'ed and Powder Coated Integy Gear Cases, Integy Steel gears and Lockers, Yeah Racing bearings, Jp Custom Rc's Knuckles, TTR CVD and Straight axles mod'ed for 14mm Hex's. Chassis: 2.2 Pimp Cane Electronics: DX6 Radio gear, Dual Mamba Max ESC's, MPI Voltage Reg, Tower Pro MG945, 2 Crawlmaster Brushless Motors, Lipo Battery pack Wheels and Tires: 2.2 Jordans Different Pattern then whats being Sold. Erickson 2.2 Beadlocks Mod'ed for 14mm Hex's, Dual inner rings Foam Set up is Kreepy Krawlers Pic's Coming Soon................................... Money invested? Anyone want to guess... It would cost close to $1,500.00 or more, but I have connections... There is no way I could afford to build this if I didn't. As stated above this is just Stage one. Stage two will be soon after. Stage two will envolve a few new Custom Parts and to improve anything in Stage one that might needed it. Last edited by run2jeepn; 06-18-2007 at 01:27 AM.

06-18-2007, 12:52 AM	#2
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	First thing I did was bolt up my New Knuckles and Axle Tubes. The Axle Tubes I went with are Hot-Racing. Unlike RC4WD and Integy's Tubes. These are made to work with Clod knuckles not just there own. Which is a good thing for me. My Knuckles bolted right up with ease. No problems or Issues. The only thing I needed to do was find a way to get more Steering out of the Tubes. Even with my knuckles. The Steering arm would hit the inner part of the axle C's. I looked at them for a while and came up with this. I wished I took more pic's. I'll get more of later and post them up. On the tube itself there is a Flat spot on top. It's there so the Braces have clearance. Well I rotated the C's 45. That made the Flat spot (Which is marked in Yellow) On the backside of the tubes. I cut off the extra. Which only left me 2 mounting screws. So I drilled and counter sunk 3rd one. Grinded a little of the edge and was done. 10min of work.... Before and After With the CVD's in. I max out the CVD's before the Knuckles touch anything. This gives me the max steering I can get. Anymore steering would involve different Shafts. As you can see in the pic below. The tires are turned to there Max. I don't have my Steering links hooked up yet, b/c the BTA kit from TTR hits the housings before the CVD's Max out. So a custom link is needed. Last edited by run2jeepn; 06-18-2007 at 12:56 AM.*

06-18-2007, 01:16 AM	#6
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Next little trick.... With the wider tires and CVD's. I was right at 12.5in. I'm at 12in at this point with the 14mm mod and the new Beadlocks. This helped more then I thought it would. All I did was widen the inner part of the wheel. This brings the tire more to the center of the rig. With these beadlocks its simple. I mounted the outsides like normal. Then on the inside I placed one ring. Then the tire. Then sandwiched the tire with another ring. I pulled on the tires pretty good and thet held in there fine. I'm going to mod the rings to have more bitting power later. You can see how much closer the wheel is to the knuckles Before After Can't get any closer then that and believe it or not. This shorten my track width by almost 1/2in. So by doing these 3 cheap and easy mods. I gained back 3/4in... Last edited by run2jeepn; 06-18-2007 at 01:48 AM.

06-18-2007, 01:20 AM	#7
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Here's the Electronics I mod'ed my DX6 to have a return to center left stick. I had a spare DX6 laying around for parts. So the mod was way to easy. And the CrawlMaster beside my old Lathes Mounted the axles to the new chassis and bolted up my old wheels. I'm still waiting on some rings and new foams for my new tires. Last edited by run2jeepn; 06-18-2007 at 02:11 AM.

06-18-2007, 12:54 AM	#3
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Now for the back axle tubes and Shafts. Nothing Special here. Same axle tubes, TTR Straight axles and my Knuckles. I cut of the knuckles steering arm. No need for it. Bolted everything up and together.

06-18-2007, 01:00 AM	#4
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Wheels and Tires Went with 2.2 Jordans again. Went wider this time. I think I may narrow them 1/2in. I went with Erickson 2.2 Clod beadlocks. Made a new Inner ring for 14mm hex's.

06-18-2007, 01:09 AM	#5
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	I used LST2 14mm Adaptors for my 14mm Mod. Thanks for Mnster for this trick. Pretty simple little mod really. Just drill out the hole on the shaft to match the new Pins that come with the LST2 kit. I think it's 1/8th bit. Then make a groove around the new Hex's for the O-Ring to set in. I used a Dremel and a cut off wheel. Slide them on. Then cut the extra part of the axles that stick out now. Doing this mod also shortens your overall track width by 1/4in.. You will need either a spacer or washer to keep the bearings in the knuckles from sliding out.

06-18-2007, 01:59 AM	#8
Highmark I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 3,866	Awesome.... I hate seeing builds where guys just dump a ton of money into a rig and expect it to perform. It looks like you're putting some serious thought into every component while you build. I bet it really hurt to cut those nicely annodized knuckles though eh?

06-18-2007, 02:05 AM	#9
LIKES2CRAWL I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: KENNEWICK, WA Posts: 2,513	Looking good man! I can't wait to see this thing in action.

06-18-2007, 04:38 AM	#11
Rckcrwlr I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Here Posts: 7,317	I'm keeping an eye on this one. Got to town R2J!!!!!

06-18-2007, 06:45 AM	#12
Cloak I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,206	Dang, I almost pegged each part exactly from the last thread. I like the extra work done to the Ericksons.

06-18-2007, 09:03 AM	#13
drumbeater RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,852	did you make your own axle braces to mount the servo and electrics on ?

06-18-2007, 09:24 AM	#14
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	Pffffffft, Clods suck!

06-19-2007, 12:39 PM	#17
drumbeater RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,852	thanks I need to get some new ones.

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06-19-2007, 01:10 PM	#18
Destroyer Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North GA Posts: 824	Thanks for naming it after me.:-P

06-19-2007, 06:31 PM	#19
andrewmp6 Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: louisville Posts: 814	looks good thats the most steering i ever seen out of a clod before.btw why did you coat the gear case trying to make it slide better and what did you use to coat it.

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