My TXT Build This is my first TXT and here is how it turned out: (click the images for a larger version) http://www.4x4shots.com/albums/userp...l_DSC01097.JPG http://www.4x4shots.com/albums/userp...l_DSC01100.JPG The paint job is my first using a liquid mask. It seems to be geared too high for now, but I have some different motor/pinion combinations to help fix that. Anyway, specs: SW2 w/3" skid 14.5" WB 55T motor 12T pinion 84T spur Axial beadlocks Moab 40s 5955 XRS |
Great job for your first! How about some action shots. |
I should have some soon! I've got a 4 day wekend coming up... |
Cool another 14"er. "thumbsup" |
Yep, a bit larger than my TLTs. I got a lot of ideas from Rocpede's build! |
I built pretty much exactly the same truck as yours but im running a rc4wd R2 tranny and i also feel the gearing is too high, and not nearly enough torque. The problem is the axles, i think they are only 2:1 reduction. If someone made a readily available 4:1 gearset for TXT axles i would buy them. I know eGressor has regeared these axles before. I know my 14'r is being held WAY back by the gearing/power. I am going to go with a HH brushless setup soon to get around the problem with the gearing (i hope) Btw, your rig looks great"thumbsup" |
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Nice looking build Jeremy, I like the silver and red paint together. |
Thanks for the compliments Bender. To regain some of my gearing, I was thinking about a set of the new RC4WD portals.... |
Those portals also got my attention. I dont want to hijack this thread but i am running maxx mashers, i had 40 series moabs on mine for about 10 minutes. Too much tire. One question, are you going to go with rear steer eventually? |
Yeah, I plan on adding it soon. I was going to use a 645MG servo and make a mount similar to the one in the front. I just need to figure out how to rewire my TQ3 for the rear steer. Sometime this week I am going to drop in my 65T Axiom that is sitting on my workbench. I think I also have lower tooth count pinion that might help. |
Well, I swapped in my 65 turn motor and now the truck is just slow and lacks torque. I think I might try a RC4WD GRU. Any advice? Could it be the XRS? I would think it would be able to handle this setup (it did well on a 2.2 tired crawler). |
Or should I just shoot for a brushless setup? |
From what I read here is that an Integy 55T + 9tooth pinion combo will do just fine ... ? |
nice looking rig. how does the sw2 work with the txt axles? |
Really, a 9tooth? I have a heck of a time getting a 12 tooth to fit with the pede tranny. The motor hits the inside of the tranny and I have shaved off as much as possible. The SW2 works great! The wider skid is a necessity with the TXT axles (suspension link mounts and shock mounts on the axle end are pretty wide). It flexes nicely. |
I believe if you move to 64 pitch gears you can get a 12/90 on a pede. A switch to shorter tires would help you the most though. Mine has a 55t and maxx mashers and i feel it is still too fast, so i was hoping a switch to a 65t would slow it down enough, but maybe not. Also, what batteries are you using? Do you run a reciever pack? I run a 6.0v 1500mah reciever pack for the servos as well as a ib4200 stick pack, and i have a fair amount of punch, but it still doesnt "feel" right, especially in binds, and its too fast for real technical crawling IMO. I doubt you are being held back by the xrs. I will be doing alot more testing/tuning on mine after i get my 5955 servo back from warranty. I also agree that the SW2 is a great chassis for a TXT, but it definitely needs the 3" skid plate, and it gives you the perfect spot for a reciever pack!;-) |
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I agree the SW2 does have to be 3" wide for a TXT build, if you run a shorter wheelbase. Sparky ran 64p gears for awhile, but it still lacked a little torque for hard binds. |
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Ahh....good idea with the 64pitch. I'll give them a shot! The batteries I run are 7.2V 2800 mAh (6 cells). Do you have any recommendation on a receiver pack? This would be plugged directly into the Rx (batt slot), correct? Bender, is there a way to mount up the stock TXT tranny to your chassis (with out a lock of hacking on the chassis)? |
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That is what I was thinking as well, but you never know...there are some creative folks out there! |
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Im not sure if they would fit with maxx yokes or not. I believe the ratio of the trans is 2.72:1, the spur/pinion (87/12) ratio is 7.25:1, and the axles are 2:1. After doing the math i get 39:1 gearing, which is super high. A tlt is geared lower than that and they have alot smaller tires. Doubling that to 80:1 would be enough gearing IMO. Thats why i wish someone had a 4:1 axle gear kit available. The rc4wd portal boxes look like a sweet solution but at $200 and a higher COG i would rather do something else. What about a rc4wd planetary reduction unit bolted to the motor? They are 4:1 that way you have room to gear up to get the desired wheelspeed, but you will need to cut the chassis to fit in the unit, or go to a shorter brushless motor. I just ran the numbers on my setup and its 56:1 and shorter tires, and i need alot more gear to be happy with it. |
You know, I was thinking that would be a good solution, but was also unsure if it would fit with the SW2 chassis. With the wider skid, the motor is just inside the SW2 chassis. I think I might give that a shot as I dont think those larger spur gears will fit on the pede tranny with the Maxx yokes. Thanks for the tips! |
Well, a GRU a new Tekin2 and a 65T Axiom has my rig crawling as slow as could be! I think that 4:1 gearbox did the trick! BTW, I had absolutely no problems getting the GRU to fit in the SW2 with the 3" trans skid. |
NICE! I wish i could get parts up here that quick:x I ordered a 75t lathe as a cheap/easy solution to the gearing dilemma but it will be another 2 weeks until it even shows up:roll: There is no way i could get the GRU in my truck unless i hack a LARGE piece out of the chassis, because im running a R2 that sticks out of the trans cutout in the frame. Its cool that you found a fairly easy solution to the gearing problem! |
Thanks for the compliment! Maybe you can clock that R2 90* and get a GRU to fit? |
Im actually thinking of reworking my entire drivetrain layout, which would reduce the torque twist tremendously, and move the battery weight around better. i would also be able to get a GRU in there no problem! |
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Well, I found a pretty good deal on a set of TT Servo Mounts. I also am begnning the rear steer setup. I just need to build the links and it'll be ready. Here is a picture of the rear axle: http://www.4x4shots.com/albums/userp...l_DSC01133.JPG |
Nice and clean build now go get some rock rash on it:lol: |
Yeah, have been fine tuning some stuff and then ran into a few problems. After I wired up the rear steer and got it working, the front servo began to act funny. When I powered up the Tx and Rx, the front servo would turn completely to one direction and not move. Turn them off and I could move it back by hand. Now the ESC will not come on at all... Havent encountered this problem before on any of my other crawlers. BTW, I did not change the wiring setup of the front servo during rear steer install... |
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Check these two links out. EGRESSor has come up with that solution. I think he sells a kit, could be wrong about that though. http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/tamiya-txt-1-juggernaut/24580-1-4-gear-ratio-jugg-axle.html http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/3252964 Tom |
He doesnt sell a kit, but I did see that gear setup for sale on this forum. |
cool i like the body |
Thanks! |
What servo are you running on the back? The front is a 5955 right? If the rear is a digital, you will need a rx pack or voltage regulator. Quite a few people have fried the BEC on the TR2 running 2 digital servos. |
The rear has a 645. I do think that my ESC is fried though. The crawler worked fine and then one day, nothing. I cant get the esc to turn on. |
any test runs yet? Alfy |
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