Integy Lathe Motors

[Andyjk]

Hey guys,

So I've been reading up a bit about the Integy Lathe motors as I think this is where I'm going to go with my Pajero (when it arrives).

The motors I'm looking at are the 35T, 45T, 55T, 65T and 75T.

From what I've read, the 45T or 55T seem to be the way to go. People say that the 35T is too fast and the 65T too slow. And that the 45 and 55 are good mathces when used with 7.2V (which is what I'll be using). Has anyone got any experience/advice with these motors?

Ultmately I'm looking for a motor that has good run time and plenty of push to get over obstacles.

Now on to the ESC. Are these motors OK when being used with the TEU-101 ESC? I've read that the drag brake is rubbish?

I'm currently using a Tamiya superstock BZ motor and Traxxas XL-5 ESC in my DF-01 which I have just started crawling with and it virtually has no brake at all. If I'm on any sort of steep slope, it will roll down, unless I put it into reverse. Its damn annoying. SO yeah, I'm after a good braking ESC/motor.

Anyway, I think I've used my question limit for now so I'll leave it at that haha

Any help would be greatly apreciated.

Cheers

[Creepy Inc.]

Ive had a Integy 65t for almost 2 years. Used to run it 3c and now on 8c stick pack. Water, Mud, Dirt and, Sand this thing still runs strong. I have also never turned it.

[toyofast]

Originally Posted by Andyjk

Now on to the ESC. Are these motors OK when being used with the TEU-101 ESC? I've read that the drag brake is rubbish?

When did Tamiya get into the crawler ESC world? The TEU-101 has NO drag brakes. Only way to "add" drag brakes would be to install a gear reduction unit as it'll add more friction and create the sense of brakes.


I've had a 45 turn plugged into a RC4WD 4:1 reduction unit and it's been great. Only thing I've done to the 45 turn in the time I've had is replace the brushes and springs. I live in a very sandy area and due to the amount of water I drive in, it tends to get into everything.

If you're going to run the Tamiya ESC, I'd probably go with a 65 turn motor in the CC-01 rig.

[poppey]

i use the 45turn motor.i think it is on the limit but ok.i run 2s.(when i doubt u can power out).

[Andyjk]

My 'Jero just arrived, mega excited haha. I think I'm going to go with the 45T and a Castle Creations Sidewinder. I hear this is used a lot.

[neoakaj]

I have a 65t with a sidewinder. Works great and out ran my SCX with a 27t

[Junkz0r]

I bought a Novak Rooster Crawler with the 55T combo. I've found it a nice match especially after some tweaking on the TX (for throttle control and braking).

My SCX-10 is gonna probably have a Tekin FXR and a 45 or 55 turn motor.

[fixed13]

I run a Rooster Crawler and a 55T on 7.2v NIMH and it has the right amount of speed and power. Top end is a little faster than I can walk and lots of low end torque.

[traxxas4fun]

i run a 45t integy on the stock pajero esc.. i have 1.9 slingers, and i like it, nice wheel speed, but the motor still gets hotish after the long runs like 30-45minutes.. when this one pukes, i might try the 55t

[Andyjk]

Could you run the 45T on a 11.1v LiPo? What is the max voltage you can run through it?

I think its about time I stop using the stock silver can motor haha

[Andyjk]

I found some useful info about the Integy Lathe motors.

"Integy offers them in 35, 45, 55, 65, 75, and 85 turns. But they give no specs for KV, the number that reveals the free-running speed on any voltage. How to measure? Chuck it in a drill press that gives a known speed. Run it and measure the voltage generated across the tabs (yes, spinning a motor turns it into a generator). Calculate KV = drill press rpm / generated volts.

I bought a 55T. Ran it at 3100rpm and got 2.86v. 3100/2.86 = 1084 = the KV value.
How fast on 12v? 1084 rpm/v X 12v = 13,000 rpm.



Integy Lathe
Motor (3 pole)___KV_____RPM on 12v
35T____________1730______20,760 (estimate)
45T____________1358______16,296
55T____________1084______13,000
65T_____________930______11,160 (estimate)
75T_____________806_______9670 (estimate)
85T_____________714_______8571

[Grumpster1980]

I run a Novak 55T & Novak Rooster Crawler on my CC-01 and it works great! Plenty of low speed torque and speed to zip around when there are no rocks.

I am also using a 6 cell Nimh stick pack.

[difflocker]

I run a Integy 35T with an HPI gear reduction unit. Super slow "grunt" and decent wheel speed. All powered by a 2S lipo.

[fixed13]

Originally Posted by Grumpster1980

I run a Novak 55T & Novak Rooster Crawler on my CC-01 and it works great! Plenty of low speed torque and speed to zip around when there are no rocks.

I am also using a 6 cell Nimh stick pack.

x2, small 6 cell stick pack though, 2/3A cells.

[Andyjk]

Just has a quick look at those novak rooster crawler combos. Are they reliable? They seem fairly affordable.

[difflocker]

Originally Posted by Andyjk

Just has a quick look at those novak rooster crawler combos. Are they reliable? They seem fairly affordable.

Novak stuff is good. I have had no problems with their products over the last 20+ years I have been using them

[team3six]

So Andyjk, Why not purchase a Tekin 45T system?
then you get the motor, you get the ESC , you get the capability to tune it exactly how you want it via hotwire. and if you dont like it, the resale value is pretty good. hell I would buy it from ya if you didnt like it as long as you didnt blow it up.
TCS has a great deal on them
you can get the hand wound 45t system for $139.99
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Tekin-FXR...3-p-17306.html
or the basic 45T system for $112.99
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Tekin-FXR...4-p-17375.html
Dont mind the pics if they dont match the listing, they are what they are.

Then you have no issues to deal with. and Im pretty sure youll be much happier then getting an Integy that may be out of wack. I just quit using them all together. sometimes you get a decent one and more times then some you get a rock. In the long run they just are not worth it. Or better yet, check out Holmes hobby and get his system which is even water proof.

It may look pricey, but its a bad mama jamma of a system and better priced then you think.
http://holmeshobbies.com/product.php...2&cat=0&page=1

[Andyjk]

Originally Posted by team3six

So Andyjk, Why not purchase a Tekin 45T system?
then you get the motor, you get the ESC , you get the capability to tune it exactly how you want it via hotwire. and if you dont like it, the resale value is pretty good. hell I would buy it from ya if you didnt like it as long as you didnt blow it up.
TCS has a great deal on them
you can get the hand wound 45t system for $139.99
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Tekin-FXR...3-p-17306.html
or the basic 45T system for $112.99
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Tekin-FXR...4-p-17375.html
Dont mind the pics if they dont match the listing, they are what they are.

Then you have no issues to deal with. and Im pretty sure youll be much happier then getting an Integy that may be out of wack. I just quit using them all together. sometimes you get a decent one and more times then some you get a rock. In the long run they just are not worth it. Or better yet, check out Holmes hobby and get his system which is even water proof.

It may look pricey, but its a bad mama jamma of a system and better priced then you think.
http://holmeshobbies.com/product.php...2&cat=0&page=1

I had a look at the two you listed and they dont seem to give much information. I want to be able to run it with at a 7-cell Nimh. Can these motors and ESCs handle 8.4V (7-cell) or are they only rated for 7.2V (6-cell).

Also, what is the difference between the handwound and the normal one, aside from the price?

[Andyjk]

Originally Posted by difflocker

Novak stuff is good. I have had no problems with their products over the last 20+ years I have been using them

I have a XL-5 ESC. Would it work ok with a Novak 55T motor?

[Andyjk]

I've read that the Rooster ESC only got forward and reverse? No brake? Is that right?