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07-19-2010, 09:59 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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|  New member with CC01 solid front axle build
Hi, I've been lurking here for a while and I thought I'd introduce myself and my CC01 build. I live in Sunnyvale, CA (south end of the SF bay) I first built my Wrangler back around 1988 and up until recently, it's been bone stock, here it is just after I finished it:   Inspired by Pantablo's solid front axle thread (SAS cc-01 build) I wanted to try a solid front axle myself, but RC4WD isn't selling the Beowulf front axle any more.  What to do? Well, how about turning a rear axle into a front axle? I was able to find all the parts to build a rear axle on eBay. First step, shorten the shell by cutting out a section on either side of the diff and gluing the ends back on, then shorten the axles, drill holes into the ends, cut a dogbone in half and solder one half into each axle:  Next, needed something to hold the knuckles (C hubs?) so I made some out of brass:   I bought a new chassis to experiment on in case it didn't work out, here it is with the front diff area cut out and the steering servo mounted in the brick wall and the links for the axle to attach to:   I also bought another driveshaft and an Axial tranny on eBay to use for a transfer case, made a new 4 link setup for the rear and here it is all together:  Made mounts and a coupler for the axial tranny out of aluminum and brass:   Here's the steering setup from the front. Don't know how good an idea it was to have the servo right out in front but it works:  And here it is from the top. The front end was flexing a lot when steering, hence the brass braces:  With the body on. Axial beadlock wheels and Tamiya High-Lift tires.      That's it for now, soon i'll post some out door pics and some video. Seems to work pretty good, though the "transfer case" catches on things cuz it hangs down kinda low |
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07-20-2010, 02:12 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2010 Location: brisbane australia
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| what shockies are those mate
Looks like 70mm roadtech off-road
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07-20-2010, 08:03 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marengo, Ohio
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Looks great, other then the axial tranny hanging way under there. I actually did the first CC-01 Solid Axle swap, but apparently mine doesnt count since i used Losi MRC gear  |
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07-20-2010, 11:11 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Excellent SAS project! I wish I had your skills! Is there perhaps a way to tuck the 'transfer case' up into the pan? Or a more shallow case? RC4WD maybe? I would consider this mod myself if I had the ability! Well done! |
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07-20-2010, 11:18 AM
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| Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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 Got them on eBay from seller rcdamper. They seem nicely made but the springs are much stiffer than the stock ones. I think it would work better if the shocks had longer travel & softer springs Last edited by BigSwede; 07-20-2010 at 11:22 AM. | |
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07-20-2010, 12:09 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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I was thinking about cutting the chassis and mounting the axial tranny like it is in the SCX10, mount the motor directly to it and junk the CC01 motor mount/gear train altogether. Since I've still got the original chassis, I could try some "Exploratory surgery" on it & see if it would work. Hmmm..... | |
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07-20-2010, 12:38 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest
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I bought and installed those same shocks from the same ebay seller on my CC-01. I would like to get softer springs, but Im not RC savy enough to know what would fit? As Im 'newer' to this hobby than most! Having said that, they seem to be of good quality and are better performing than the original equipment. |
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07-20-2010, 02:29 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MS Gulf Coast
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Nice work! Is there any way to put a skid over the servo and tranny? It's a cool idea. How's the flex with this set up? |
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07-21-2010, 05:35 PM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2010 Location: brisbane australia
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They were way to stiff stock..so I took all the oil out put 200wt shock oil on all 4..then used the standard springs that came with the cc01...the roadtech shocks on the back keeps hitting my diff so I swapped them with the original shocks lower mouting end... Now there way betttter!!  http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Roadtech-Off-...item1e5ce3ae2e | |
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07-22-2010, 01:22 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Excellent tech advice, thank you GymJunkie! Im going to put these mods to good use asap!  ED!T: I swapped the stock springs, and although a little shorter, fit perfectly on the GPM shocks. They are quite a bit softer, and I noticed an immediate improvement crawling over rocks. Last edited by JLF; 07-23-2010 at 12:39 AM. Reason: Update |
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08-02-2010, 11:13 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bay Area
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what size suspension links? what brand? I will be doing an SAS as well! However, I will uses TLT axles
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08-02-2010, 02:35 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest
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I thought about using a TLT front axle on my SAS converstion too, but wasnt sure of the width? The nice thing about using a front TLT is you can simply use the axle servo mount if you wanted, instead of mounting the servo in the chasis. At least I assume that set up would work? |
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08-02-2010, 03:40 PM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bay Area
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08-02-2010, 03:59 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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All the suspension links were made from scratch using ball ends and 4-40 allthread. Once I got the lengths right I measured the distance between the ball ends, cut a piece of thick walled aluminum tubing to that length and ran the rod through it. | |
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08-02-2010, 04:43 PM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bay Area
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can you measure the ones that you made? also, sent you a pm  | |
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08-04-2010, 12:11 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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| Videos!
Well, finally took some video of my CC01. It has been named "Sparky" by my daughter.  Down at the creek, Stevens Creek Park: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijJzB1WeC8A In my beautifully landscaped yard  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tjx3h-JYi4 Did pretty good but not as much articulation in the suspension as I'd like, maybe I need some softer shocks/springs with more travel? I did put the original CC01 springs on which helped a bit. And yes, the transfer case does like to get caught up on stuff.  |
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08-04-2010, 12:12 PM
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08-04-2010, 01:39 PM
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08-05-2010, 12:16 PM
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08-10-2010, 12:49 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Cool videos. Looks like the steering servo doesnt get too banged up in that position to badly either.
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