07-22-2009, 04:03 PM | #1 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Surprise, AZ
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| Control Arm Woes / rant
So I broke a rod end the other day. I noticed that the end I broke the long set screw connecting the track rod to the end was shorter than the other side (Screwed too far into the rod) I decided to remove it and set it properly. And thats when the fun started... Whatever the factory that is assembling these things is using for thread lock should be bottled and sold to the military. Its bar-none the strongest holding thread locker I've ever encountered. Its resiliant to heat, cold and a pair of vise grips. It took me over an hour of working at it to get the end out of the rod. Destroyed the screw in the process, but that wasn't my big concern (new ones come with the new ends on the way). First the screw was put in backwards into the rod, the allen side was in the rod, not out so they can be tightened/loosened/adjusted/removed etc... The rods are tapped about 1/2" in and the rod ends can take over 1/2" of threads so why Losi decided to go with 5/8" screws is beyond me. 7/8" or 1" would have just been much better, and held up in the long run. I'm going to attempt to pull all of mine and replace them with 1" 5-40 set screws, but I'm not hopeful I can get them all out... Might have to buy new rods to get it done right. Good times |
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07-22-2009, 05:08 PM | #2 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oroville, CA
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ahh the joys of the hobby.
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07-22-2009, 05:18 PM | #3 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belle Fourche
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how hot did you get it? green loctite is like 1200F to boil it out, The other problem is stainless and aluminum Gals when it is used in thread that is probley the reason |
07-22-2009, 05:24 PM | #4 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Surprise, AZ
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I got it quite hot, plenty enough to soften other locktites I've dealt with. Unfortunately the Ace hardware near me does not have 5-40, so I'm going to have to buy them online.. suck |
07-22-2009, 06:00 PM | #5 |
Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Southern
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I work on equipment that often has threadlock and I have good luck with acetone, unfortunately acetone likes to eat some plastics so you have to be careful where and on what you use it.
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07-23-2009, 04:16 AM | #6 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Surprise, Az
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did you roll down a hill like i do all the time? |
07-23-2009, 06:24 AM | #7 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Surprise, AZ
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| Yeah, good fall on one of the rear wheels. I'm going to order some delrin and 5-40 rod from McMaster Carr today, make some slippery lowers I think... Also going to try making a new skid plate out of delrin, the stock one just hangs up on our rocks so much. |
07-23-2009, 12:50 PM | #8 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Surprise, Az
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Downtown quoted me $18 shipped for a pair of bent and straight links. I always use the rod end to measure how far the set screw goes in now after having the same thing happen on my mini with aftermarket links. |
07-25-2009, 02:10 PM | #9 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Humble
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Agreed 100% with a big WTF! LOSI. Seriously Rich look into this, my Wheel Lock Nuts were glued on with this stupid loctite, I had to take a torch to the chassis stand-offs. I just dumped the aluminum links and remade them with 6/32 screws and 5/16 delrin. |
07-25-2009, 03:06 PM | #10 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sacramento
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So they went from not loctiting stuff to over loctiting every thing, that sucks, I just made some lower links out of natural 5/16" delrin rod and 8/32 set screws with Large Revo rod ends. |
07-25-2009, 05:29 PM | #11 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: I don't think theres rocks in Florida
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I wish this had been sold as a kit. Its one of those things I like knowing how mine is put together. There are very few screws left with the original loc tite on mine.
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07-25-2009, 05:49 PM | #12 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St. Albans
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| same here. I ended up using acetone and an ultrasonic cleaner to get rid of the factory loctite. I understand why they built it as a race roller to appeal to more people, but i would have much rather built it as a kit rather than have to take it apart first before I built it my way.
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