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07-27-2009, 12:09 PM | #1 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: RAPID CITY
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| Motor overheating/ diff heat
After about 10-15 min. My motor gets fairly hot :-(. Im running a 15t pinion gear, ALONG WITH A TRINITY MONSTER MAXX MOTOR (23 turn i think) AND 6 CELL 3000Mah batt. pack What can i do to get motor temps down? Im running a high temp wheel bearing grease in my diffs, but they are still getting warm. Any suggestions? Last edited by LCC4TWENTY; 07-27-2009 at 12:13 PM. |
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07-27-2009, 12:11 PM | #2 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Surprise, AZ
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Do some reading in this section, tons of info on how to bring down the temps etc... You mention a 15t pinion, but not the motor/battery combo... And if grouser reads this thread, we'll get to see the infamous Losi Fan on the motor pic for sure... |
07-27-2009, 12:30 PM | #3 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2005 Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Check your diff gears. Make sure the teeth on the spool are cut at an angle. If not, that's most likely the culprit.
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07-27-2009, 03:08 PM | #4 | |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NorCal
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and here's one for the front and back to the rear for the diff,,, | |
07-27-2009, 03:34 PM | #5 |
Holdin my 40oz. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somewhere in Colorado
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I too suggest checking the worm gears to see if they are cut right, and a motor fan DOES help. Only question I have is how does it run with that motor? How is the torque and wheelspeed? I have one of the 19Tpro versions I been thinking of throwing in, just curious to see how the 23t faired.
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07-27-2009, 05:21 PM | #6 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Eveleth
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I would drop a few teeth on the pinion. I have a Titan in mine, stock Emaxx motor, with a 12t pinion them motor barely gets warm. I am running a CC Sidewinder with an Xtreme 3s 1350 lipo....
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07-27-2009, 08:38 PM | #7 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2005 Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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I'm seeing alot of suggestions for workarounds rather than real solutions. Gearing down is only gonna allow the motor to more easily turn the gears. Your motor temp MIGHT come down, but your axle temp and ESC temp will still be running high I bet. And you'll end up sacrificing wheelspeed. I'm running a Goat with a 12T pinion and still managed to get my motor to around 160, my ESC to about 130 and my rear axle to up around 100. And that's with the gears properly lubed and the ESC set to Profile 3 as suggested by Novak. I inspected my gears and they had the tell-tale oddball wear pattern that many others have pointed out. If the axle is getting hot like mine, there's obviously some undue friction in there. Check those gears. If they're cut straight on the spool instead of at an angle, that's most likely your culprit. Replace 'em and I bet your motor temps, ESC temps and axle temps will all drop significantly. At least that's what I'm hoping for mine. |
07-27-2009, 09:41 PM | #8 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NorCal
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If the diff is at 100 degrees,,,,what is the ambient temp? 80-90,,,that's only 10 or 20 degrees increase,,,hot day,,,hot truck
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07-27-2009, 09:47 PM | #9 | |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: RAPID CITY
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07-27-2009, 10:06 PM | #10 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: sittin in the sky
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so why does a faster motor make more tourqe out of the losi?
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07-28-2009, 12:26 AM | #11 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2005 Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Faster motor (fewer turns) doesn't make more torque. You need the faster motor to make up for the really low gear ratio. That low gear ratio allows you to use the lower turn motors and still get a decent amount of torque.
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07-28-2009, 06:05 AM | #12 | |
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I wouldn't worry about the worms till they get up around 145 degrees. High speed worm gears are gonna make a lil heat. It's the nature of the type of gear. I am trying to figure out how to seal the rear housing so I can run some gear lube in the housing instead of grease. Also to much grease will also cause heat due to grease shear and the pump effect. | |
07-29-2009, 09:03 PM | #13 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: sittin in the sky
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| but still a 55t geared high should still make a decent amount of tourqe on 9.6v right? but mine doesnt at all im fine with the speed i tend to like a little slower rig but still it has no tourqe
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07-29-2009, 11:56 PM | #14 | |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Garden Grove
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I have tried and failed at sealing the housing. It pumps out the input shaft. Let me know if you figure it out. | |
07-30-2009, 11:52 AM | #15 |
Got Worms? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Golden, CO
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| how does the titan work, i just blew my 45t to smoke and i'm looking for a replacement, also is it a brushed motor
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07-30-2009, 12:51 PM | #16 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2005 Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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| You should have a plenty of torque on 9.6V. You might actually be geared too high. If your running something like an 18 tooth pinion, try going down to a 16 or so...
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