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jwr · 02-23-2011, 02:27 PM

I've read a lot of good things about these hub carriers here. I'm just wondering if there are situations or types of terrain where they would be at a disadvantage compared to the stock 10 degree carriers.

Seems like everything else, suspension related, is a tradeoff--you gain this but lose that. Are these the same type of deal?

Thanks!

losikid · 02-23-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jwr

I've read a lot of good things about these hub carriers here. I'm just wondering if there are situations or types of terrain where they would be at a disadvantage compared to the stock 10 degree carriers.

Seems like everything else, suspension related, is a tradeoff--you gain this but lose that. Are these the same type of deal?

Thanks!

All i have read is good things, no bad, i should have a set myself here soon.

If there is a dis advantage i'm sure the advantages out weight it.

jwr · 02-23-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by losikid

All i have read is good things, no bad,

Advantages are the only things I've been seeing as well, but since most of the suspension related physics have been around for a long time it makes me wonder why Losi designed the originals with 10 degrees of caster. Seems like someone must have had a good reason, no?

(I have some 20's on order as well

)

killswitch · 02-23-2011, 03:59 PM

There are no disadvantages that Ive seen in running mine. I swapped back to the 10s to see if I was really liking them that well and I was. I could not pull off the same line without them. They really let the tire "reach out" and grab ledges extremely well.

Erik D_lux · 02-23-2011, 05:28 PM

Only thing I saw as a disadvantage is that while your one tire can reach out and grab a ledge it does the opposite with the other tire, it swings it backwards. There has been a copule times that I have been working a line really hard, get past a certain point, try to reach/ try to turn and it pushes the downhill tires backwards and forces me back into the same point I just worked hard to get past.

This does not happen enough to give up my caster.

jwr · 02-23-2011, 06:22 PM

Thanks for the responses! Great info.

I was thinking there must be some downside to these but it sounds like any slight disadvantage is far outweighed by the benefits.

Jslick · 02-23-2011, 08:02 PM

I have liked running them, My LCC is a super belly dragger and it hepled me get a good bite on breakovers that were next to impossible in the past.

BJoe · 02-23-2011, 10:33 PM

Only downside I can find is that my wallet is a weee bit lighter

jwr · 02-23-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BJoe

Only downside I can find is that my wallet is a weee bit lighter

But that helps with your climbing, right?

xgerstandtx · 02-23-2011, 11:21 PM

I guess a small disadvantage from what i understand is that this wil not work with the RCBROS highsteer kit. Which sucks since i really enjoy my histeer kit.

untchabl · 02-24-2011, 08:47 AM

It will work with the RCBros OTA steering. Just have to do some minor work to the OTA link, I'm running the 20* hubs and the RCBros OTA.

RCBros is working on a set of high clearance knuckles and new OTA steering link that are both designed for the 20* hubs.

Here is a pic of mine with the RCBros OTA steering and the 20* hubs.

xgerstandtx · 02-24-2011, 02:39 PM

Very cool man. I'm glad you brought my attention to that. Did you end up filing the ends(towards the knuckles)? Just to lower the entire assembly down a little? I'm not excited to file any off of the top so using the ends would be way better.

killswitch · 02-24-2011, 02:49 PM

Yes. You have to remove material from the bushing too.

untchabl · 02-24-2011, 04:30 PM

Yes, and Killswitch is right, you have to remove material from the bushings as well. Been running mine for awhile now and it has been working great.

BJoe · 02-24-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jwr

But that helps with your climbing, right?

So far as I can tell, but I only comped it once since I put them on.....and did some of my best work there too

jwr · 02-24-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BJoe

So far as I can tell, but I only comped it once since I put them on.....and did some of my best work there too

Sorry, I was joking about your light wallet helping with *your* climbing--not your trucks.

Thanks again for the feedback on the 20 c's!

Jslick · 02-24-2011, 05:16 PM

That is odd, I did not remove any material from the link, I had to file the front of the stock servo plate to get mine to work properly.

untchabl · 02-24-2011, 06:17 PM

I'm running the RCBros LCG servo mount, haven't checked fitment with the stock servo mount.

02-23-2011, 02:27 PM	#1
jwr Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Frisco Posts: 124	20 degree hub carriers--Disadvantages? I've read a lot of good things about these hub carriers here. I'm just wondering if there are situations or types of terrain where they would be at a disadvantage compared to the stock 10 degree carriers. Seems like everything else, suspension related, is a tradeoff--you gain this but lose that. Are these the same type of deal? Thanks!

02-24-2011, 08:47 AM	#11
untchabl Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Central NC Posts: 343	It will work with the RCBros OTA steering. Just have to do some minor work to the OTA link, I'm running the 20* hubs and the RCBros OTA. RCBros is working on a set of high clearance knuckles and new OTA steering link that are both designed for the 20* hubs. Here is a pic of mine with the RCBros OTA steering and the 20* hubs. Last edited by untchabl; 02-24-2011 at 08:49 AM.

02-23-2011, 03:59 PM	#4
killswitch RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St. Albans Posts: 1,441	There are no disadvantages that Ive seen in running mine. I swapped back to the 10s to see if I was really liking them that well and I was. I could not pull off the same line without them. They really let the tire "reach out" and grab ledges extremely well.

02-23-2011, 05:28 PM	#5
Erik D_lux Wanna get? Gotta want. Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 7,052	Only thing I saw as a disadvantage is that while your one tire can reach out and grab a ledge it does the opposite with the other tire, it swings it backwards. There has been a copule times that I have been working a line really hard, get past a certain point, try to reach/ try to turn and it pushes the downhill tires backwards and forces me back into the same point I just worked hard to get past. This does not happen enough to give up my caster.

02-23-2011, 06:22 PM	#6
jwr Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Frisco Posts: 124	Thanks for the responses! Great info. I was thinking there must be some downside to these but it sounds like any slight disadvantage is far outweighed by the benefits.

02-23-2011, 08:02 PM	#7
Jslick I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stowe Posts: 3,987	I have liked running them, My LCC is a super belly dragger and it hepled me get a good bite on breakovers that were next to impossible in the past.

02-23-2011, 10:33 PM	#8
BJoe I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: We-Go, Chi-Town, Ill Posts: 2,551	Only downside I can find is that my wallet is a weee bit lighter

02-23-2011, 11:21 PM	#10
xgerstandtx RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Marshalltown Posts: 1,003	I guess a small disadvantage from what i understand is that this wil not work with the RCBROS highsteer kit. Which sucks since i really enjoy my histeer kit.

02-24-2011, 02:39 PM	#12
xgerstandtx RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Marshalltown Posts: 1,003	Very cool man. I'm glad you brought my attention to that. Did you end up filing the ends(towards the knuckles)? Just to lower the entire assembly down a little? I'm not excited to file any off of the top so using the ends would be way better.

02-24-2011, 02:49 PM	#13
killswitch RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St. Albans Posts: 1,441	Yes. You have to remove material from the bushing too.

02-24-2011, 04:30 PM	#14
untchabl Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Central NC Posts: 343	Yes, and Killswitch is right, you have to remove material from the bushings as well. Been running mine for awhile now and it has been working great.

02-24-2011, 05:16 PM	#17
Jslick I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stowe Posts: 3,987	That is odd, I did not remove any material from the link, I had to file the front of the stock servo plate to get mine to work properly.

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02-24-2011, 06:17 PM	#18
untchabl Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Central NC Posts: 343	I'm running the RCBros LCG servo mount, haven't checked fitment with the stock servo mount.

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