What sorta center caps you want?

[Fracture]

Well I saw that http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77787

and havent heard anything since...

But personally I would prefer some like the AISIN hub, theyre a bit more detailed and you see them on lotsa rigs around here. I assume theyre popular overseas?


Now a perfect replica of these would be cool, but I dont see it happening.

So I reckon something like Ive designed below could be possible. The main wavy bit could be machined from aluminium with a M4 thread down the center,
The detailed front piece could then be molded from plastic with a rebate so it can be pushed into the aluminium part and maybe stuck in with some CA.

Left pic;- decent replica above, manufacturable painted design below
Right pic;-what it would look like on a stock car wheel when painted up (excuse the crude crusher cad)
Bottom pic;- left is the alu bit, right is the plastic bit




The alu bit could also have holes 6 holes drilled in it for functional/ornamental M1 machine screws or whatever.

These are of course for the front wheels.

If anyone could make these cheaply or wants to consider producing them, pm me - I can sort out a cad.

Your thoughts and opinnions appreciated.

And yes, I do quite like the plainish ones discussed in the rc4wd thread, these would just step up the detail a bit.

Cheers
Frac

[BOWTIE]

i would like to see something like these.

[Fracture]

So like this one that has parallel sides?


Its nice and simple, I like it

Wouldnt get hung up easy either

That would probably be quite simple to machine out of 1 piece of alu then stick the 6 screws in it and paint the yellow and black

[BOWTIE]

yeah that's it.

i made these awhile back they just pop on the wheel nut.

[chrisjlittle]

I would be happy with either the internal (warn) style or external (aisin) lockouts, both are seen stateside. The think I'd really like to see is some full floating rear hubs, like this


Actually, I'd reaaallyy like to see actual full floating R/C axles, but that's another story.

[BOWTIE]

same here for the rear full float.

[Fracture]

Originally Posted by BOWTIE

yeah that's it.

i made these awhile back they just pop on the wheel nut.

got some better pics of them and details? they look pretty good

So for full float would it pretty much be just an alu cylinder with a m4 thread down the center (not all the way through though) and then 8 holes drilled out for some small hardware to go in? And maybe the nut recess. sounds relatively easy to make.

Can you get M1 nuts? or other scale size nuts

I cant really make anything, I just want some and think if We can come up with a simplified design it should be quite cheap for someone to produce.

[BOWTIE]

Originally Posted by Fracture

got some better pics of them and details? they look pretty good

they are nothing special.. just plastic caps and painted details.

i used a marker cap. hacked off the top part.


then painted the details...

[Fracture]

well they look fine from a distance! lol
I reckon thread caps would be better than push on caps? makes them easier to make from aluminium and also more rugged. Just gotta be careful tightening them on - use some padded vicegrips or something.

I still prefer the aisins for the front

[BOWTIE]

Originally Posted by Fracture

well they look fine from a distance! lol
I reckon thread caps would be better than push on caps? makes them easier to make from aluminium and also more rugged. Just gotta be careful tightening them on - use some padded vicegrips or something.

I still prefer the aisins for the front

yes distance is where they shine.

[Mnster]

I have been making hubs to sell for a few months now. I am a vendor here just haven't posted a ad. I've been waiting until I get a large amount in stock before I open shop. The scale shop will soon be carrying them.

http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16152

Examples
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Get me that CAD and I'll make them. I've been looking for something like that.
I've had my eye on those warn hubs, that is what I use on my 1:1. Warn hubs have near the same base construction as those aisin hubs. Maybe I could make a universal base with a changable face.

[Fracture]

now that is exactly what I wanted to hear! They look sweet!

reckon you you could machine out the two slot thingys warn style and drill 6 holes in em aswell? Then all that would be needed is some small screws and some paint to finish em off.

As for the Aisins... how hard would it be to mold/machine them?

I reckon it would work well to machine the wiggly bit and mold the plate or not?

interest much appreicated!

[BOWTIE]

these hubs?

[Mnster]

Those hubs

Originally Posted by Fracture

now that is exactly what I wanted to hear! They look sweet!

reckon you you could machine out the two slot thingys warn style and drill 6 holes in em aswell? Then all that would be needed is some small screws and some paint to finish em off.

As for the Aisins... how hard would it be to mold/machine them?

I reckon it would work well to machine the wiggly bit and mold the plate or not?

interest much appreicated!

Yes that is how I would probably have to do it drill holes and screw together. Or maybe mold the whole bit, it depends if I can mold something so tiny and not end up with lots of air pockets in the mold.

Using manual machines the warn hubs are really hard to machine. I don't have a bit that small, I'll try ordering one though.

I don't see a problem with making a mold for the squiggly part.

Give me a couple days and I'll see what I can do.

[BOWTIE]

another

[Fracture]

Well if you can make the aisins or, at least, simplified aisins out of two mouldable plastic parts I would be very pleased!

Im pretty sure they would haveto be two parts because the round face is larger in diameter than the pockets betwene the squiggly bits. Ca would easily hold both the bits together if they have the sticky out round bit on the back of the plate to locate it.

And BOWTIE, I will wip up a cad for both designs (probably), see if they can be worked on to, they should be easy to mould.

Mnster, I recommend you try doing some simple mouldable full float rears, if you can make a pattern for the 8 little nuts then it should be straughtforward apart from that.

[Mnster]

Yeah I'm going to look and see if they make nuts that small. What outer diameter base are we looking for? I made a prototype base section, but I made it to small, a wheel nut will not fit inside. I'll make the faces once I get the base setup. Bits are dull, ordered some new ones so it might be a week before I make more progress. After I can find nuts that tiny it should be mostly downhill. I can't promise I will be able to sell these in the end. Somethings may just not work out. But, I'm going to do my best to try to make them.



Gotta be bigger with a better looking face.


If you guys don't really care about the ribs on the sides it would be way easier to make. The nut would fit in the hub better.

[Fracture]

man awesome, someone else who does stuff quickly

I will get the dimensions I reckon would be good for the aisin, im just drawing up a full float hub at the moment, it looks easy to make

will tell you sizes in a min.

-edit-

I reckon 13mm at the widest point for the squiggly bit, would that work?

For me, I would be happy with just a 3.5 or something hole in it, so I can tap it slightly and screw it tightly onto the stub axle. If its a reasonable plastic or alu that would be fine imo.

Cause yeah, it looks liek youve already made it almost big enough, seing as Im using a stockcar rim for reference.

warns and full floats will be simpler, I just love the aisins.

[Mnster]

13mm is to wide, the hub would be touching the lug nuts on a stock car wheel.

12mm might be better if I don't groove a whole lot off the sides. The nut should fit.

A plastic nut should work, I had used some RPM ones in the past that held up ok. Once I get some sharp bits I'll look into alum.

<<<<<<<<<< I want Aisins to

[Fracture]

you got pm, I reckon make it as wide as possible so it almost touches the stockcar nuts, that should be good. and make it out of plastic or delrin so its threaded, should be strong enough.

The warns/full floats should be able to slip over nuts. theyre far simpler

-edit-

That full float I sent is 6mm radius, 11mm long.

Ok guys, theres your floater:

Dont be to worried about the size, I have never seen a stockcar rim in real life, so the size is probably off.

Something like that should be relatively cheap if moulded, and reasonably easy to mold provided small nuts can be found for the pattern.

I want some!