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Kamikaze · 02-09-2008, 05:39 PM

I got my badlands today, I ran 3 packs through them. Here is my take on them.

Verticals: The claws have a slight edge on the pure verticals on a smoth sandstone type rock, a very slight edge, almost non existant. The badlands did do everything the claws did, but the badlands didn't hook imediatly out of the bag. I did this testing first and whasn't impressed, but when I came back 2 packs later they were hooking just like the losi's.
Verdict: After the Badlands got scuffed up they hooked as well as the losi's, but a slight win for the claws here, like I said both tires made everything I tried.

Sidehilling: What can I say, the badlands flat outpreformed the losi's when it came to side hilling. Not even close in my opinion. There were a few lines the badlands made that I couldn't hold with the claws. The truck felt like it was stuck to the rock face, even at crazy off camber angles, so much so that the only way they stopped was when the truck rolled over.
Verdict: Badlands, no question.

Overall preformance: Honestly other than the sidehilling I realy couldn't tell a difference in general driving. The badlands seemed to steer better than the claws, as in the front got pushed aroung less and did alot more turning. The carcass felt very nice, not to thin and not to thick, lug spacing was very nice and the lugs are short enough to not fold over.
Verdict: They are both awsome tires, hard to chose between each one. If I was running nothing but vertical climbs on slick rock I would run the claws. For me and all teh differing terrain in SERCRC territory I am going to be putting the Badlands on my aluminum rims and they will be my comp tire for now.

Note: I bought all my tires.

cyberhog05 · 02-09-2008, 05:43 PM

great review. I was hoping they would be good performers. No I just got to test them on my terrain.

JUSTGOINGSLOW · 02-09-2008, 05:54 PM

Thanks for the reveiw Kam. I bough a set and have not had a chance to try them, they look and feel very promising. What foams did you use?

dshelowjr · 02-09-2008, 05:55 PM

Nice review . It's cool to see someones opinion who buys their tires

I gotta get some badlands :-P

Kamikaze · 02-09-2008, 06:01 PM

I used axial foams in both sets.

Usmc8541 · 02-09-2008, 06:24 PM

I just got mine a few hours ago from Rpp Hobby, I will test them on hard clay and mud and get back to yall.

Karadjas · 02-09-2008, 06:35 PM

Ok, set on the tyres (Sidehilling is a very important factor for me), now have to find a decent foam setup

Kamikaze · 02-09-2008, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptorman57

Hey now,you didn't mention any slick'em.

Do they clean out better/worse?????

I try and stay away from that stuff....... its rock crawling you know

renoirbud · 02-09-2008, 07:34 PM

Are the tires the same size?

Not the spec size, but the real life side by side size?

Kamikaze · 02-09-2008, 07:35 PM

Yeah, very close to identical.

Usmc8541 · 02-09-2008, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptorman57

Hey now,you didn't mention any slick'em.

Do they clean out better/worse?????

I will give it a shot monday.

Rocksmith Eng. · 02-09-2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Usmc8541

I will give it a shot monday.

Nice review about the tires, guess Im gonna have to get a set and try em out.

And on another note, nice avatar dude! Looks like the trolls got things all tied up! LOL!

Brainstain · 02-09-2008, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocksmith

nice avatar dude! Looks like the trolls got things all tied up! LOL!

Not the way I would have, but hey.....

Anyhooo... I was really hoping these were gonna be taller. They're shorter than Moabs & M@K's correct?

Kamikaze · 02-09-2008, 10:18 PM

No, not realy. They are on par with the size.

montereycrawler · 02-09-2008, 10:35 PM

Thanks for the great write-up and the time you spent testing.

I have another question. I saw that you used the same foams in each. Were both sets of foams new or close to new? I know there is a big difference in sidehill and lateral stability with wornout foams. Were the wheel widths the same?

I envision the Badlands sidehilling better because of the tread pattern and I would also assume they have a stiffer carcass which would help with their lateral stability.

Is that your take on it?

I know,,,, details, details. Thanks for the info though.

ZUKMAN · 02-09-2008, 10:49 PM

I'll be giving my Badlands a good test in the morning

todd1803 · 02-10-2008, 09:30 AM

Well done on the review, I was really glad to see that you used the same foam setup in both tires.

You found about what I would have expected, as the Claw's have never held sidehills very well for me.

holycaveman · 02-10-2008, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamikaze

I got my badlands today, I ran 3 packs through them. Here is my take on them.

Verticals: The claws have a slight edge on the pure verticals on a smoth sandstone type rock, a very slight edge, almost non existant. The badlands did do everything the claws did, but the badlands didn't hook imediatly out of the bag. I did this testing first and whasn't impressed, but when I came back 2 packs later they were hooking just like the losi's.
Verdict: After the Badlands got scuffed up they hooked as well as the losi's, but a slight win for the claws here, like I said both tires made everything I tried.

Sidehilling: What can I say, the badlands flat outpreformed the losi's when it came to side hilling. Not even close in my opinion. There were a few lines the badlands made that I couldn't hold with the claws. The truck felt like it was stuck to the rock face, even at crazy off camber angles, so much so that the only way they stopped was when the truck rolled over.
Verdict: Badlands, no question.

Overall preformance: Honestly other than the sidehilling I realy couldn't tell a difference in general driving. The badlands seemed to steer better than the claws, as in the front got pushed aroung less and did alot more turning. The carcass felt very nice, not to thin and not to thick, lug spacing was very nice and the lugs are short enough to not fold over.
Verdict: They are both awsome tires, hard to chose between each one. If I was running nothing but vertical climbs on slick rock I would run the claws. For me and all teh differing terrain in SERCRC territory I am going to be putting the Badlands on my aluminum rims and they will be my comp tire for now.

Note: I bought all my tires.

Good write up !!! If I descide to ditch the redrocks someday(which I seriously doubt) Then the badlands will be next. Because if I see another dag gone truck with claws!! LOL

Hey Kamakazi, will you be at foto?? IF so I would like to see just how bad the redrocks are. since you have had them, and all the others.

SACCO · 02-10-2008, 03:34 PM

Thanks for the write up, you sold a set.

Kamikaze · 02-11-2008, 03:58 PM

No problem, I just hate having to turn all these screws now.....

02-09-2008, 05:39 PM	#1
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	Non bias opinion on the Badlands VS Claws I got my badlands today, I ran 3 packs through them. Here is my take on them. Verticals: The claws have a slight edge on the pure verticals on a smoth sandstone type rock, a very slight edge, almost non existant. The badlands did do everything the claws did, but the badlands didn't hook imediatly out of the bag. I did this testing first and whasn't impressed, but when I came back 2 packs later they were hooking just like the losi's. Verdict: After the Badlands got scuffed up they hooked as well as the losi's, but a slight win for the claws here, like I said both tires made everything I tried. Sidehilling: What can I say, the badlands flat outpreformed the losi's when it came to side hilling. Not even close in my opinion. There were a few lines the badlands made that I couldn't hold with the claws. The truck felt like it was stuck to the rock face, even at crazy off camber angles, so much so that the only way they stopped was when the truck rolled over. Verdict: Badlands, no question. Overall preformance: Honestly other than the sidehilling I realy couldn't tell a difference in general driving. The badlands seemed to steer better than the claws, as in the front got pushed aroung less and did alot more turning. The carcass felt very nice, not to thin and not to thick, lug spacing was very nice and the lugs are short enough to not fold over. Verdict: They are both awsome tires, hard to chose between each one. If I was running nothing but vertical climbs on slick rock I would run the claws. For me and all teh differing terrain in SERCRC territory I am going to be putting the Badlands on my aluminum rims and they will be my comp tire for now. Note: I bought all my tires.

02-09-2008, 05:43 PM	#2
cyberhog05 Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montucky Posts: 254	great review. I was hoping they would be good performers. No I just got to test them on my terrain.

02-09-2008, 05:54 PM	#3
JUSTGOINGSLOW RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Commerce Twp. Posts: 1,773	Thanks for the reveiw Kam. I bough a set and have not had a chance to try them, they look and feel very promising. What foams did you use?

02-09-2008, 05:55 PM	#4
dshelowjr Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Building a scaler!! Posts: 313	Nice review . It's cool to see someones opinion who buys their tires I gotta get some badlands :-P

02-09-2008, 06:01 PM	#5
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	I used axial foams in both sets.

02-09-2008, 06:24 PM	#6
Usmc8541 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Del mar Posts: 411	I just got mine a few hours ago from Rpp Hobby, I will test them on hard clay and mud and get back to yall.

02-09-2008, 06:35 PM	#7
Karadjas Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cyprus Posts: 321	Ok, set on the tyres (Sidehilling is a very important factor for me), now have to find a decent foam setup

02-09-2008, 07:34 PM	#9
renoirbud RCC Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: China Grove, NC Posts: 1,395	Are the tires the same size? Not the spec size, but the real life side by side size?

02-09-2008, 07:35 PM	#10
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	Yeah, very close to identical.

02-09-2008, 10:18 PM	#14
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	No, not realy. They are on par with the size.

02-09-2008, 10:35 PM	#15
montereycrawler Nor-CalRCRC Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Monterey Peninsula Posts: 745	Thanks for the great write-up and the time you spent testing. I have another question. I saw that you used the same foams in each. Were both sets of foams new or close to new? I know there is a big difference in sidehill and lateral stability with wornout foams. Were the wheel widths the same? I envision the Badlands sidehilling better because of the tread pattern and I would also assume they have a stiffer carcass which would help with their lateral stability. Is that your take on it? I know,,,, details, details. Thanks for the info though.

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02-09-2008, 10:49 PM	#16
ZUKMAN Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2005 Location: SPANISH FORK Posts: 346	I'll be giving my Badlands a good test in the morning

02-10-2008, 09:30 AM	#17
todd1803 Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 983	Well done on the review, I was really glad to see that you used the same foam setup in both tires. You found about what I would have expected, as the Claw's have never held sidehills very well for me.

02-10-2008, 03:34 PM	#19
SACCO I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Moscow Mills MO Posts: 2,204	Thanks for the write up, you sold a set.

02-11-2008, 03:58 PM	#20
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	No problem, I just hate having to turn all these screws now.....

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