Chinese SLW hubs

[Heido]

I was looking for SLW hubs and found these from Ebay Lampholder Home | eBay stores
I did mention them on wanted section where someone was looking for them also and got a few PM's asking about them as the Ebay adds are not very informative. I ordered for myself the narrowest and the widest hubs, the narrowest measure .350 and widest .600 so I asume that the middle one are .475. They are SLW pattern and use M3 hardware. Hexes fit very tight. By my mind very great product with a friendly price. 10 bucks for a set of hubs isn't bad.

[allanon1965]

run them for awhile and let us know on durability...does it say what grade the aluminum is?

[TacoCrawler]

Thanks for the PM and link to your thread.

They look acceptably machined.

I'm thinking I'll need buy the .600's...

But first I'll have to wait for my chinese alloy wheels to arrive
so that I might know what their offset is and which hubs they come with.

How long did you have to wait for shipping to you ?

[Heido]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

How long did you have to wait for shipping to you ?

I'm in Estonia, a small country in northen Europe. It usually takes 3-4 weeks but I belive shipping to US is faster than that.

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by Heido

I'm in Estonia, a small country in northen Europe. It usually takes 3-4 weeks but I belive shipping to US is faster than that.

...Not lately would seem

The seller gave me a shipping deadline of Jan. 09, 2017
for the wheels I purchased.
and I paid for them on Dec. 02, 2016

Guess I'll know, when I know.
but I'd rather get them... then need file an ebay claim.

Too bad the seller's listing has no information as to which hub length is included with the wheels I purchased.

[allanon1965]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

...Not lately would seem

The seller gave me a shipping deadline of Jan. 09, 2017
for the wheels I purchased.
and I paid for them on Jan. 02, 2016

Guess I'll know, when I know.
but I'd rather get them... then need file an ebay claim.

Too bad the seller's listing has no information as to which hub length is included with the wheels I purchased.

the delivery is slated over a year after you paid for them? the time for an ebay claim is long passed.. or am i missing something here?

[Heido]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

The seller gave me a shipping deadline of Jan. 09, 2017
for the wheels I purchased.
and I paid for them on Jan. 02, 2016

The same seller who is selling those hubs?

[WHITE-TRASH]

Not a bad price but that type of hub still sucks compared to shift hubs.

[84yoda]

Originally Posted by allanon1965

the delivery is slated over a year after you paid for them? the time for an ebay claim is long passed.. or am i missing something here?

Pretty sure its a typo, think he meant Dec 2nd. Lol

[doubler]

I have used them. 3 of the 4 threaded fine the 4th had one hole that stripped. I think they are below average material. I have never had a Vp hub strip.

[MUF DVR]

I wonder if they would be worth tapping out to 4-40? Do you feel the metal is to soft? Just go with original known SLW Hubs?

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by allanon1965

the delivery is slated over a year after you paid for them? the time for an ebay claim is long passed.. or am i missing something here?

...No

my error and meant Dec. 02, 2016

he caught it...

Originally Posted by 84yoda

Pretty sure its a typo, think he meant Dec 2nd. Lol

[Heido]

Originally Posted by MUF DVR

I wonder if they would be worth tapping out to 4-40? Do you feel the metal is to soft? Just go with original known SLW Hubs?

4-40 is smaller diameter than M3

[TacoCrawler]

M3 has finer threads...

can hold more tightly (precision) with less effort
4-40 is more inclined to vibration/loosening.
But over tightening the mild steel screws could fubar the screw's threads
as well the hub(s) threads.

I'd first suspect the crappy mild steel screw metallurgy
and not just assume the hub material is subpar.
It is after-all only aluminum.

Use SS screws if a harder screw thead is wanted.
Then if the hub threads fail... you could legitimately blame those.

Regardless of which screw is used... tighten to just snug and use a little blue locktite

[STANG KILLA SS]

i thought VPs pattent was actually for the adjustable hubs?

[Erbing]

Originally Posted by MUF DVR

I wonder if they would be worth tapping out to 4-40? Do you feel the metal is to soft? Just go with original known SLW Hubs?

The metal is soft. I used 4-40 with just the tool to get these in.

[EddieO]

Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS

i thought VPs pattent was actually for the adjustable hubs?

They say it is, but if you read the patent it is not. Adjustable hubs on an RC car have been around since the early 80s...

And if it was, why no enforcement on all the people making adjustable hubs...including multiple US companies.

Later EddieO

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by Erbing

The metal is soft. I used 4-40 with just the tool to get these in.

But why ?

LURC sells both M2 and M3 scale bolts to fit those metric wheel hubs.

No RC wheel (that I'm aware of) is mfgr'd from aircraft grade aluminum.

Can 4-40 be forced into M3 ?

Sure... but the M3 threads will be destroyed.

[EddieO]

Aircraft grade aluminum is basically a slang term, with no real world definition of what is and what is not. Many wheels are made out of 6061, which is considered aircraft grade...

Later EddieO

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by EddieO

Aircraft grade aluminum is basically a slang term, with no real world definition of what is and what is not. Many wheels are made out of 6061, which is considered aircraft grade...

Later EddieO

...I'll have to respectfully disagree

6061 could only be considered aircraft grade...
if it were hardened to 6061 T6 (heat treated)

Standard 6061 has a lesser tensile strength and has the easiest workability
Meaning: it is easier to machine and weld.

It can be even stronger if it were hardened to say T6
and that will make it less malleable and prone to denting.
But it also requires a higher temp setting to weld sufficiently.

7075 has an even higher tensile strength
and can be hardened even more if it were heat treated to T6 or better.
But it's purdy much overkill for RC wheels/components.

And would cost much more coin to produce a wheel from that grade
and folk likely wouldn't want to pay that price of admission.

I personally would think of 7075 as being aircraft grade/quality aluminum.
And is what is commonly utilized on aircraft frame construction.

Tho' 6061 is more commonly utilized in the RC industry...
it is one of the softer aluminums available.
But it is also one the least expensive to purchase.

Is it strong enough for RC wheels/components ?
For most people... sure it is.

But if it were heat treated to 6061 T6...
it wouldn't be as malleable and would be stronger.
Possibily stepping into the bottom realm of aircraft grade/quality.
Tho' still not utilized in aircraft frame structures.

But using 7075 will cost alot more to purchase then 6061.
And 7075 is not widely available just anywhere.

Bottom line... for RC stuff...
6061 should suffice... and can be obtained at the lowest purchase cost.
Likely why it is commonly utilized in the RC industry.

But is 6061 near to aircraft grade/quality ?
Not IMO
At least not without being heat treated to the T6 hardness.