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12-17-2006, 08:37 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ithaca, NY
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|  AirSoft VS Poly Pellets
Bought some .12 AirSoft (AS) BB's @ $15 including tax Bought some Poly Pellets (PP) @ $6.50 incuding tax $8.50 less for 2 lbs./32 oz. of the Poly Pellets (PP) PP heavier by volume than AS Work great, in fact amazing, A & B'd between 2 identical rigs and the added weight was astounding...filled tire 1/2 full on front, 1/4 on rear Available at crafts stores such as; Micheal's, Hobby Lobby, Jo Anne's Fabrics, etc. Cost $8.50 less than equal "volume" of AS........ NO BRAINER Pix below shows size comparison of the PP next to the AS..... as well as the logo and packaging that PP comes in. Hope this is of some interest to others, Kerry |
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12-17-2006, 09:00 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: One Legend.
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that would be what people are using as scale ice in their scale coolers! Should work cool, but I like airsoft because of the more volume per weight personally. I use them to take the place of foam as well as provide weight. |
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12-17-2006, 09:27 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Saginaw
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Do you perhaps have some numbers on how much heavier the poly pellets are by volume?
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12-17-2006, 11:27 PM
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| I wanna be Dave  Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK.
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12-18-2006, 04:21 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ithaca, NY
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I guess I'm looking at this differently than some of you out there. I would think that you would want the weight to be as low as possible to the ground!! Like my signature states I am NEW to the RC world, so still lots to learn. In my 1:1 rigs I run water or lead shot (up to 150 lbs. in the front) in order to keep the weight low and planted on the ground, at the contact patch of the tire. In fact I probably should try both in a side by side comparison to truly see and feel the difference of how the vehicle performs using PP vs. AS by weight. I must say I was astounded at the difference in the abilities that the rig posessed with the PP installed, same obstacle, same lines, same vehicle, same tires.....and with the added PP the rig performed as if it was on a paved highway versus a pile of rocks. Also with the PP being in the bottom of the tires rather than filling the tires in essence raising the "center-point of the weight in the tires, the ability to traverse an off camber/side hill section was improved immensely in my opinion. I'm not trying to say that the methods and materials that many of you are using is wrong, you may be looking for a whole different cause and effect. Myself I need weight out over the front of the vehicle as well as getting weight to be down low and very shall we say "concentrated" at the very lowest point of the tire where it makes contact with the ground/rock. I will find someone with a small scale (or will purchase one, probably a good "tool" to have when doing these builds, heck you never know when times could become rough economically and I may need to revert to selling crack in order to support my new found RC addiction, and a good accurate scale would be a nessessity to weigh the goods!.....LOL) and find out what the actual weight to volume is and post it here. The PP would be excellent to use as ice in a scale ice chest.........this hobby and the scale detail is amazing.....I would never have thought of using the PP as ice........excellent. Kerry |
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12-18-2006, 02:28 PM
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| Rock Crawler  Join Date: May 2006 Location: Burrillville, RI
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People use lead weight for what you are talking about... However the PP idea is good because lead can get all mucky when wet... People use the airsoft pellets to fille the majority of the tire, thereby giving the tire weight and some rigidity.. If you fill a 2.2 moab only 1/4 full of pellets the tire will flatten and fold at almost any climb if you have no foams... the point of the airsoft is to get rid of the foams and have a more consistant contact patch... I hope that helps. |
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12-18-2006, 04:18 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ithaca, NY
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Ok hear are the numbers................ 200 milleleters AirSoft weighs 126.9 grams 200 milleliters of Poly Pellets is 123.8 grams So figuring that my volume of each is definetly not an exact measurement ............they are equal in weight and volume. Differences...PP costs about 57% less and are of a smaller diameter. Here are the pix............ |
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12-18-2006, 05:03 PM
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| I wanna be Dave   Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Eastern WA
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The problem I see is them leaking through spots, if the glue breaks in a spot!
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12-19-2006, 10:17 AM
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| Rock Crawler  Join Date: May 2006 Location: san diego
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12-19-2006, 10:52 AM
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12-19-2006, 01:21 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Connecticut
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Im running airsoft .20 gram bb's in my tires. They are plenty heavy and ive climbed some knarly stuff(vid will be up tonight). They are at most a 1/4 tire full and flat spot after sitting for the shortest amount of time. I ran them all day on two different rigs and they performed amazing! Check out some of the pics to get an idea at how much they conform:     As you can see thought they do give enough support:  |
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