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Mighty Mouse · 02-26-2007, 07:11 PM

I got bit by the crawler bug and decided to toss one together to get serious with. The plan is for a Stick with Clods and a host of other goodies but I am undecided on the width of the wheels. I know I am going to run the Proline 40 series wheels with Moab tires. What are the pros and cons to the wide Commando wheels vs. the narrow Cheyenne wheels?

BENDER · 02-26-2007, 07:16 PM

There really isn't much difference in the width of the 2 wheels, I'd suggest narrowing them both down to about 2 to 2 1/4" wide.

Mighty Mouse · 02-26-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BENDER

There really isn't much difference in the width of the 2 wheels, I'd suggest narrowing them both down to about 2 to 2 1/4" wide.

I figured with a little less then 3/4" difference it would make a big difference in these. I will most likely go with stock narrow ones to start then. I'm used to 1to1 scale so I have tons to learn on RC crawling.

Rckcrwlr · 02-27-2007, 05:03 AM

MM,
I am running the Proline Beadlocks on my rig. After running it a little I took the knife to them and narrowed them...what a big difference. It makes the Moab XL's perform ten times better. Teamsvsc has meetings weekly for members to work on their rigs. You need to hook up with them and they can help with your first rig. They are great guys...and girls.

John

Mighty Mouse · 02-27-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rckcrwlr

MM,
I am running the Proline Beadlocks on my rig. After running it a little I took the knife to them and narrowed them...what a big difference. It makes the Moab XL's perform ten times better. Teamsvsc has meetings weekly for members to work on their rigs. You need to hook up with them and they can help with your first rig. They are great guys...and girls.

John

Thanks for the info. I hope to start meeting more crawlers soon.

DISTURBIN' tha PEACE · 02-27-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Mouse

I got bit by the crawler bug and decided to toss one together to get serious with. The plan is for a Stick with Clods and a host of other goodies but I am undecided on the width of the wheels. I know I am going to run the Proline 40 series wheels with Moab tires. What are the pros and cons to the wide Commando wheels vs. the narrow Cheyenne wheels?

You might want to save some money & get some Axial BLs from RCPcrawlers. I think they're much narrower than PLs

DKNguyen · 02-27-2007, 07:36 PM

WHy do people use narrow wheels? I would think people would like wide wheels since they provide more traction (I think...I seem to remember learning that friction is independent of surface area).

morehorsepower · 02-27-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DKNguyen

WHy do people use narrow wheels? I would think people would like wide wheels since they provide more traction (I think...I seem to remember learning that friction is independent of surface area).

That would be my thinking also !!! More grip and less slip .

Tanis · 02-27-2007, 09:00 PM

Depending on the terrain, it gives you more psi. When on the rocks, some of the time only a section of your tire is actually in contact, so the more psi you can put on the contact patch, the more traction you get. I personally like a wider tire than others, I don't have any specific reason why, just because. Another reason is, narrowed rims make the tire a little taller.

andrewmp6 · 02-28-2007, 05:14 PM

look at most real rock crawlers they run a tall skinny tire and narrowing a wheel is a good idea if you dont know or want to do it few guys on here will for you for the right price

DISTURBIN' tha PEACE · 03-01-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DKNguyen

WHy do people use narrow wheels? I would think people would like wide wheels since they provide more traction (I think...I seem to remember learning that friction is independent of surface area).

A wide tire will only give you more contact patch. With a narrower tire the contact patch is smaller. Now put them on the same vehicle. The narrower tire will have more surface pressure due to the smaller contact patch. More pressure=more grip. Conversly, a wider tire will have less surface pressure because of it's larger contact patch.

jham4x4 · 03-02-2007, 08:40 AM

Yeah I just got a set of prolines with moabs and am going to try them for a while then probably narrow them and switch to xl's. Just like my 1:1 I switched from a 17x10 to a 17x8 and they worked a whole lot better for my 36x13.5's.

draven · 03-02-2007, 11:00 PM

Thin is definitely in

Kamikaze · 03-03-2007, 03:51 PM

I'll save you some trouble and tell you to use the XTM thorns narrowed for the moabs. Much better preformance IMO. And a lot cheaper.

Scarfesse · 03-09-2007, 09:58 PM

hello where can i find the XTM thorns narrow ??
Thank you

Kamikaze · 03-09-2007, 10:02 PM

You don't you have to make them narrow, but here they are. Only $13.99 a pair http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/145521.asp

Kamikaze · 03-09-2007, 10:10 PM

heres mine on thorns and moab xl's, I think I took 7/8th out of the width.

Scarfesse · 03-10-2007, 05:48 AM

Thanks a lot and Kamikaze , your rig is awesome

MAX climber · 03-11-2007, 10:10 AM

i like wide

Rc EnthuSiasTs · 03-20-2007, 09:08 AM

kamikaze that rig is awesome...i really dig the tubework!

02-26-2007, 07:11 PM	#1
Mighty Mouse Pebble Pounder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Carlisle, Pa Posts: 115	Should I go wide or narrow? I got bit by the crawler bug and decided to toss one together to get serious with. The plan is for a Stick with Clods and a host of other goodies but I am undecided on the width of the wheels. I know I am going to run the Proline 40 series wheels with Moab tires. What are the pros and cons to the wide Commando wheels vs. the narrow Cheyenne wheels?

03-09-2007, 10:10 PM	#17
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	heres mine on thorns and moab xl's, I think I took 7/8th out of the width. Attached Images

02-26-2007, 07:16 PM	#2
BENDER 2006 2.2 National Champ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big Bear Lake Posts: 8,328	There really isn't much difference in the width of the 2 wheels, I'd suggest narrowing them both down to about 2 to 2 1/4" wide.

02-27-2007, 05:03 AM	#4
Rckcrwlr I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Here Posts: 7,317	MM, I am running the Proline Beadlocks on my rig. After running it a little I took the knife to them and narrowed them...what a big difference. It makes the Moab XL's perform ten times better. Teamsvsc has meetings weekly for members to work on their rigs. You need to hook up with them and they can help with your first rig. They are great guys...and girls. John

02-27-2007, 07:36 PM	#7
DKNguyen Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 308	WHy do people use narrow wheels? I would think people would like wide wheels since they provide more traction (I think...I seem to remember learning that friction is independent of surface area).

02-27-2007, 09:00 PM	#9
Tanis Keep it real Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Yakima,WA Posts: 6,532	Depending on the terrain, it gives you more psi. When on the rocks, some of the time only a section of your tire is actually in contact, so the more psi you can put on the contact patch, the more traction you get. I personally like a wider tire than others, I don't have any specific reason why, just because. Another reason is, narrowed rims make the tire a little taller.

02-28-2007, 05:14 PM	#10
andrewmp6 Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: louisville Posts: 814	look at most real rock crawlers they run a tall skinny tire and narrowing a wheel is a good idea if you dont know or want to do it few guys on here will for you for the right price

03-02-2007, 08:40 AM	#12
jham4x4 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ATL Posts: 29	Yeah I just got a set of prolines with moabs and am going to try them for a while then probably narrow them and switch to xl's. Just like my 1:1 I switched from a 17x10 to a 17x8 and they worked a whole lot better for my 36x13.5's.

03-02-2007, 11:00 PM	#13
draven Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 2 miles from nowhere MO. Posts: 372	Thin is definitely in

03-03-2007, 03:51 PM	#14
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	I'll save you some trouble and tell you to use the XTM thorns narrowed for the moabs. Much better preformance IMO. And a lot cheaper.

03-09-2007, 09:58 PM	#15
Scarfesse Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: FRANCE Posts: 38	hello where can i find the XTM thorns narrow ?? Thank you

03-09-2007, 10:02 PM	#16
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	You don't you have to make them narrow, but here they are. Only $13.99 a pair http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/145521.asp

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03-10-2007, 05:48 AM	#18
Scarfesse Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: FRANCE Posts: 38	Thanks a lot and Kamikaze , your rig is awesome

03-11-2007, 10:10 AM	#19
MAX climber Pebble Pounder Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nor cal Posts: 146	i like wide

03-20-2007, 09:08 AM	#20
Rc EnthuSiasTs Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Santa Rosa Posts: 566	kamikaze that rig is awesome...i really dig the tubework!

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