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DoddS · 04-23-2007, 12:08 PM

Has anybody else had problems with the hexes spinning inside the wheels? I have new Pede hexes, and two of them have turned inside the wheel. They fit good and tight. Why is this happening? I don't really want to have to glue hexes in. Is there another solution?:-(

chivas72 · 04-23-2007, 12:31 PM

i just tired to do this by hand with no luck, i run the gmade wideners

DRCMAN · 04-23-2007, 12:31 PM

I just mounted up a new set of Axial beadlocks and have had the same problem. I'm running g-mage wheel wideners and only one wheel has been a problem. It's not stripping out the wheel hex but more of a skipping problem. I solved this by tightening the wheel nuts using a 7mm socket and a nut driver. The forward torque from the axle whren the wheel is bound up causes the nut to loosen. This in turm dis-engages the mesh of the hex and the wheel. I also put a drop of "Blue" Locktite in the g-made barrel nut. If you are running the stock nylon lock nuts, drop on a split waster/flat washer/split washer then the nut. This gives you more tension on the wheel as well.

Thorsteenster · 04-23-2007, 12:36 PM

i noticed this mounting a set on TTR CVD's and trial fitting them. spinning them by hand seemed to turn on the hex, i didnt try it any further though since i didnt want to strip the hex.

DRCMAN · 04-23-2007, 02:49 PM

I sent an email to Axial asking about this issue. I'll update this thread when I get a reply.

Matt.k · 04-23-2007, 03:47 PM

The issues are being caused by the nut loosening on the axle and not holding the wheel tightly against the hex hub, once the nut loosens the hex will start to turn in the wheel.

I am currently running TLT axles on my crawler with the standard hex hub, I am using HPI MT2 lock nuts that have a flange and act as a washer. I really crank them down making sure that the nylon is on the axle to ensure they do not loosen up. I am not able to use the supplied washer but have not had any spinning of the hubs and have been running them for quite some time.

On Wheely King set ups we recommend running the metal hex hubs from the HPI MT2 as well as the lock nuts.

Thanks,
Axial

tommyjohnston · 04-23-2007, 04:44 PM

Use some JB weld to hold the hex nut in. Its just something I saw in a thread a while back. It will keep the wheel from spinning on ya! If this is not a cure let me know so when my Rocksters/ scorpion tire set up gets here.

Rockpiledriver · 04-23-2007, 05:36 PM

Another standard practice when using aluminum hexes on ANY plastic wheel is to add a small drop of CA to keep the hex in. When and IF you ever need to remove the hex from the wheel, you can almost always pop the hex back out without damaging the wheel, or the hex.

DoddS · 04-23-2007, 08:57 PM

Its funny I've never had this problem with any other wheels. And by the way the nuts were tight!

I guess its back to my RC4WD wheels.

DRCMAN · 04-23-2007, 10:23 PM

Torqued the wheel nuts down nice and tight, tortured the truck for 2 hours. No more problems

tommyjohnston · 04-24-2007, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoddS

Its funny I've never had this problem with any other wheels. And by the way the nuts were tight!

I guess its back to my RC4WD wheels.

Hey uh I'll take those Rocksters off your hands!

TOYUTAH · 04-26-2007, 09:15 AM

I've been having the same problem! I can only drive 10 ft and then I have to tighten them again! It seems to me that the hub on the wheel is too thick so the nylon on the lock nut can't lock because it can't bite enough threads

todd1803 · 08-13-2007, 11:25 AM

Curious to see if people were still experiencing any problems with the hexes on the Axial 2.2 beadlocks?

I didn't think much about it until I had the same problem on rear of my WK comp truck. Not actually to the point of slipping, but the hexes were rotated past the flats, and jammed in the wheels. This was with the stock HPI hexes, using the metal washers, and the wheels nuts were still tight. The fronts were ok, so I swapped them to the rear, and installed some new TLT hexes I had on hand. Next time out, same thing happend again. Never had a problem with stripping hexes before (unless you count the wimpy Traxxas wheels) I really don't want to glue the hexes in, but maybe I don't have a choice until I can afford some Ericson beadlocks.

Matt.k · 08-13-2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todd1803

Curious to see if people were still experiencing any problems with the hexes on the Axial 2.2 beadlocks?

I didn't think much about it until I had the same problem on rear of my WK comp truck. Not actually to the point of slipping, but the hexes were rotated past the flats, and jammed in the wheels. This was with the stock HPI hexes, using the metal washers, and the wheels nuts were still tight. The fronts were ok, so I swapped them to the rear, and installed some new TLT hexes I had on hand. Next time out, same thing happend again. Never had a problem with stripping hexes before (unless you count the wimpy Traxxas wheels) I really don't want to glue the hexes in, but maybe I don't have a choice until I can afford some Ericson beadlocks.

Since you are driving a Wheely King I recommend using the cast aluminum hexes from the MT2ss kits. They bite into the material and hold the wheel super tight and you should not have any issues.

Here is the link:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXJYM5&P=7

Thanks,
Axial

Gula · 08-13-2007, 02:10 PM

I have the same problem and am using the same hexes and aluminum washers as you recomended. I have also tightened the wheels pretty tight, any tighter and they'll most likely break. I have called you guys too and they replied that it was the first they have heard of this.

todd1803 · 08-13-2007, 02:29 PM

Those hexes are cheap enough, I'll give them a shot.

jason · 08-13-2007, 02:30 PM

Like Brian said a little CA will solve the problem.

cotharyus · 08-13-2007, 06:13 PM

The aluminum hexes help, but the root of the problem appears to be, honestly, that there just isn't enough beef around the hex area of the wheels. I was checking this out when I got the rocksters for my wk, and determined that my first upgrade for my AX-10 will be some bomb proof beadlocks - so I ordered two sets when I picked up the new ones for my WK - result - I'll be selling the rocksters that come in the AX-10 kit most likely, unless I decide to use them on something that isn't a crawler. They'll likely do fine there, they just aren't going to stand up to crawler abuse.

jason · 08-13-2007, 06:16 PM

And what did you get for "Bulletproof" beadlocks?

TrailMaster671 · 08-13-2007, 07:57 PM

i had to glue the hexes onto the axial wheels in order for me to enjoy crawling..i have another set of the axial beadlock wheels,i'm gonna try adding the washer and making the wheel nuts really tight.

04-23-2007, 12:08 PM	#1
DoddS Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 55	Axial Rockster Beadlock Problems? Has anybody else had problems with the hexes spinning inside the wheels? I have new Pede hexes, and two of them have turned inside the wheel. They fit good and tight. Why is this happening? I don't really want to have to glue hexes in. Is there another solution?:-(

04-23-2007, 12:31 PM	#3
DRCMAN Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 412	Hexes spinning I just mounted up a new set of Axial beadlocks and have had the same problem. I'm running g-mage wheel wideners and only one wheel has been a problem. It's not stripping out the wheel hex but more of a skipping problem. I solved this by tightening the wheel nuts using a 7mm socket and a nut driver. The forward torque from the axle whren the wheel is bound up causes the nut to loosen. This in turm dis-engages the mesh of the hex and the wheel. I also put a drop of "Blue" Locktite in the g-made barrel nut. If you are running the stock nylon lock nuts, drop on a split waster/flat washer/split washer then the nut. This gives you more tension on the wheel as well.

04-23-2007, 10:23 PM	#10
DRCMAN Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 412	Axial wheels Torqued the wheel nuts down nice and tight, tortured the truck for 2 hours. No more problems

04-23-2007, 12:31 PM	#2
chivas72 RCC Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: I live Here Posts: 1,218	i just tired to do this by hand with no luck, i run the gmade wideners

04-23-2007, 12:36 PM	#4
Thorsteenster I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,377	i noticed this mounting a set on TTR CVD's and trial fitting them. spinning them by hand seemed to turn on the hex, i didnt try it any further though since i didnt want to strip the hex.

04-23-2007, 02:49 PM	#5
DRCMAN Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 412	I sent an email to Axial asking about this issue. I'll update this thread when I get a reply.

04-23-2007, 03:47 PM	#6
Matt.k Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 365	The issues are being caused by the nut loosening on the axle and not holding the wheel tightly against the hex hub, once the nut loosens the hex will start to turn in the wheel. I am currently running TLT axles on my crawler with the standard hex hub, I am using HPI MT2 lock nuts that have a flange and act as a washer. I really crank them down making sure that the nylon is on the axle to ensure they do not loosen up. I am not able to use the supplied washer but have not had any spinning of the hubs and have been running them for quite some time. On Wheely King set ups we recommend running the metal hex hubs from the HPI MT2 as well as the lock nuts. Thanks, Axial

04-23-2007, 04:44 PM	#7
tommyjohnston Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma Posts: 41	Use some JB weld to hold the hex nut in. Its just something I saw in a thread a while back. It will keep the wheel from spinning on ya! If this is not a cure let me know so when my Rocksters/ scorpion tire set up gets here.

04-23-2007, 05:36 PM	#8
Rockpiledriver I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 5,027	Another standard practice when using aluminum hexes on ANY plastic wheel is to add a small drop of CA to keep the hex in. When and IF you ever need to remove the hex from the wheel, you can almost always pop the hex back out without damaging the wheel, or the hex.

04-23-2007, 08:57 PM	#9
DoddS Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 55	Its funny I've never had this problem with any other wheels. And by the way the nuts were tight! I guess its back to my RC4WD wheels.

04-26-2007, 09:15 AM	#12
TOYUTAH Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: northern utah Posts: 479	I've been having the same problem! I can only drive 10 ft and then I have to tighten them again! It seems to me that the hub on the wheel is too thick so the nylon on the lock nut can't lock because it can't bite enough threads

08-13-2007, 11:25 AM	#13
todd1803 Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 983	Curious to see if people were still experiencing any problems with the hexes on the Axial 2.2 beadlocks? I didn't think much about it until I had the same problem on rear of my WK comp truck. Not actually to the point of slipping, but the hexes were rotated past the flats, and jammed in the wheels. This was with the stock HPI hexes, using the metal washers, and the wheels nuts were still tight. The fronts were ok, so I swapped them to the rear, and installed some new TLT hexes I had on hand. Next time out, same thing happend again. Never had a problem with stripping hexes before (unless you count the wimpy Traxxas wheels) I really don't want to glue the hexes in, but maybe I don't have a choice until I can afford some Ericson beadlocks.

08-13-2007, 02:10 PM	#15
Gula I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Here Posts: 2,325	I have the same problem and am using the same hexes and aluminum washers as you recomended. I have also tightened the wheels pretty tight, any tighter and they'll most likely break. I have called you guys too and they replied that it was the first they have heard of this.

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08-13-2007, 02:29 PM	#16
todd1803 Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 983	Those hexes are cheap enough, I'll give them a shot.

08-13-2007, 02:30 PM	#17
jason R.I.P. Chip Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Crawler State Posts: 13,938	Like Brian said a little CA will solve the problem.

08-13-2007, 06:13 PM	#18
cotharyus Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mid TN Posts: 411	The aluminum hexes help, but the root of the problem appears to be, honestly, that there just isn't enough beef around the hex area of the wheels. I was checking this out when I got the rocksters for my wk, and determined that my first upgrade for my AX-10 will be some bomb proof beadlocks - so I ordered two sets when I picked up the new ones for my WK - result - I'll be selling the rocksters that come in the AX-10 kit most likely, unless I decide to use them on something that isn't a crawler. They'll likely do fine there, they just aren't going to stand up to crawler abuse.

08-13-2007, 06:16 PM	#19
jason R.I.P. Chip Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Crawler State Posts: 13,938	And what did you get for "Bulletproof" beadlocks?

08-13-2007, 07:57 PM	#20
TrailMaster671 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Guam Posts: 11	i had to glue the hexes onto the axial wheels in order for me to enjoy crawling..i have another set of the axial beadlock wheels,i'm gonna try adding the washer and making the wheel nuts really tight.

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