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Phylodog · 12-09-2009, 04:46 PM

So I finally got off my rear end and decided to give it a shot. I stopped by the local welding supply house today and picked up the flux and 45% Silver Solder. Went by Home Depot and grabbed a torch and some 3/16" solid rod. Got home and gave it a try, I don't really know what I'm looking for as I haven't seen this done before (in person) or even seen a chassis which had been done. I tried to take a couple of good pics, constructive criticism and/or suggestions appreciated.

Code454 · 12-09-2009, 04:49 PM

they look good the second one is super clean, im no pro but i say they look great

Kamikaze · 12-09-2009, 05:36 PM

That doesn't look bad at all. Take a wire brush and scrub all of that flux off and it will look better. (Hopefully....

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Phylodog · 12-10-2009, 12:52 PM

Thanks Guys. Guess I'll go ahead and get to it!

difflocker · 12-10-2009, 02:19 PM

Looks good...wasn't that bad, was it?

Big Mike · 12-10-2009, 02:38 PM

Looks like a good first try to me.

Did you fish-mouth the end of the rod? The tighter the fit is, the easier it will be to get a good solid clean joint.

When the conditions are all correct (clean metal, flux, proper fitment, and proper temperature) the Silv will flow like water into the joint. Looks like you're on your way.

Welcome to a whole new world of custom fabrication. It's a good skill to have, that and some imagination will go a long way.

I got bored the other day cause the weather was crappy. I ended up entertaining myself for a couple hours making this travel index ramp out of scrap stock:

The Eye · 12-10-2009, 03:28 PM

look good bro...

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Phylodog · 12-10-2009, 03:37 PM

I did fish mouth it (used a rat tail file) before I brazed it and cleaned it before applying the flux. How do you guys determine when the temp is correct?

Robbob · 12-10-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Phylodog

I did fish mouth it (used a rat tail file) before I brazed it and cleaned it before applying the flux. How do you guys determine when the temp is correct?

when the flux turns liquid clear is how i do it.

joint looks good for your first, not burnt or globbed on.

toybuilder · 12-10-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Phylodog

How do you guys determine when the temp is correct?

When the solder melts. Don't hold the solder in the flame... Just use the flame to heat the tubes/flux. Then when you think its getting hot enough touch the solder to the joint, if it melts it's hot enough, if not keep heating for a bit longer then touch the solder to the joint again... when it melts it's hot enough.

I can't tell just from looking at it when it's hot enough, but I'm sure more experienced people can.

Big Mike · 12-11-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbob

when the flux turns liquid clear is how i do it.

Safety-Silv white flux does this, it sort of turns from white to clear as it melts and starts to flow around, this is the point when the temperature is getting close.

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Originally Posted by toybuilder

When the solder melts. Don't hold the solder in the flame... Just use the flame to heat the tubes/flux. Then when you think its getting hot enough touch the solder to the joint, if it melts it's hot enough, if not keep heating for a bit longer then touch the solder to the joint again... when it melts it's hot enough.

Yep, apply heat to the joint, not the solder. With steel, when the joint is just getting to a dull cherry red color thats about right. When you touch the rod to it, it will melt and flow pretty much instantly if it's hot enough. If it does'nt melt pull it away and wait a couple more seconds. Don't let the steel get to a bright orange color, this is too hot and you're prone to burning holes in your work.

Biggons · 12-11-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamikaze

...Take a wire brush and scrub all of that flux off and it will look better...

And it will rust/corrode if you don't. Also paint won't stick as well if you don't get it off.

Looks pretty damn good for a first attempt. Your heat looks good and the solder flowed well. Keep up the good work.

Phylodog · 12-11-2009, 09:02 PM

Thanks again guys. I've got two weeks off coming up and I think I'll try to make an exo-cage for my scaler.

mrpink · 12-12-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Phylodog

Thanks again guys. I've got two weeks off coming up and I think I'll try to make an exo-cage for my scaler.

exo's are one of the toughest things to build... good luck.

p!nK

12-09-2009, 04:46 PM	#1
Phylodog Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 298	First attempt at brazing, feedback please... So I finally got off my rear end and decided to give it a shot. I stopped by the local welding supply house today and picked up the flux and 45% Silver Solder. Went by Home Depot and grabbed a torch and some 3/16" solid rod. Got home and gave it a try, I don't really know what I'm looking for as I haven't seen this done before (in person) or even seen a chassis which had been done. I tried to take a couple of good pics, constructive criticism and/or suggestions appreciated.

12-09-2009, 05:36 PM	#3
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	That doesn't look bad at all. Take a wire brush and scrub all of that flux off and it will look better. (Hopefully....)

12-10-2009, 02:38 PM	#6
Big Mike I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Martinsburg WV Posts: 2,781	Looks like a good first try to me. Did you fish-mouth the end of the rod? The tighter the fit is, the easier it will be to get a good solid clean joint. When the conditions are all correct (clean metal, flux, proper fitment, and proper temperature) the Silv will flow like water into the joint. Looks like you're on your way. Welcome to a whole new world of custom fabrication. It's a good skill to have, that and some imagination will go a long way. I got bored the other day cause the weather was crappy. I ended up entertaining myself for a couple hours making this travel index ramp out of scrap stock: Last edited by Big Mike; 12-10-2009 at 02:56 PM.

12-09-2009, 04:49 PM	#2
Code454 Hateraide Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mission BC Posts: 1,538	they look good the second one is super clean, im no pro but i say they look great

12-10-2009, 12:52 PM	#4
Phylodog Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 298	Thanks Guys. Guess I'll go ahead and get to it!

12-10-2009, 02:19 PM	#5
difflocker Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2007 Location: Glendora Posts: 571	Looks good...wasn't that bad, was it?

12-10-2009, 03:28 PM	#7
The Eye WWW.THEROXBOX.COM Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Legend of Stone Pillow Posts: 1,404	look good bro... ....

12-10-2009, 03:37 PM	#8
Phylodog Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 298	I did fish mouth it (used a rat tail file) before I brazed it and cleaned it before applying the flux. How do you guys determine when the temp is correct?

12-11-2009, 09:02 PM	#13
Phylodog Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 298	Thanks again guys. I've got two weeks off coming up and I think I'll try to make an exo-cage for my scaler.

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