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08-13-2007, 12:13 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA
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|  **HARD LINE MOTORS Taking orders NOW  I'm glad to say every motor I had in stock is Already sold out. Matter of fact they were gone the first day. Due to the large number of customers waiting these motors and the cost of them. I can't at this time buy enough up front. So What I'm doing to taking special orders. How this will work. You order through my Website or Just PM me. Send Paypal or Postal Money Order. Once I receive the order. That same day your order would be placed and would be getting shipped to me for labeling. and packaging. Over time and on a few orders I may have what your looking for in stock ready to ship. But having so many options to choose from it's just to hard to keep enough of all of them in stock 24/7... Once I get my labels made. I will have them posted and ready to order from my website. Until then Just PM me or Paypal me at jpcustomrcs@yahoo.com. Make sure you write in Paypal what you are ordering so I know. Thanks guys... Your going to like these motors.  *Motor One: CrawlMax (CheckPoint Based Can) $60 Comes in 40t, 45t, 50t, 55t, 60t, 65t, 70t, 75t, 80t Comments: Highest Torque rating for any brushed Crawler motor on the Market. Perfect choice for any Super Class Rig or Heavier 2.2's. Not recommended for Weak Transmissions.  *Motor Two: The Dominator (Ti Based Can) $55 Comes in 40t, 45t, 50t, 55t, 60t, 65t, 70t, 75t, 80t Comments: Ultra Smooth Control. Stand up brushes for very nice Torque and response. Makes a very nice 2.2 Choice. But suitable for Super Class Rigs as well.[/I]  *Motor Three: The Assassin (Orion V2 Based Can) $60 Comes in: 40t, 45t, 50t, 55t, 60t, 65t, 70t, 75t, 80t Comments: This "V" Based motor has the nice Torque, but with Ultra Smooth Control. This motor was designed for longevity and requires infrequent tear downs. Motor 4  This motor is based of the KR Can. It's the cheapest of the HardLine motors. But still a very good All aorund motor. Decent Torque and the smooth control like the others. $47.50 Comes in: 40t, 45t, 50t, 55t, 60t, 65t, 70t, 75t, 80t Now if anyone was worried about these motors being bigger, heavier or what ever. This should help. I compared them to a V10 Axiom Motor. Size  Axiom's Weight  CrawlMax Weight  Assassin Weight  Last edited by run2jeepn; 09-07-2007 at 06:27 PM. |
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08-13-2007, 12:29 PM
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| I wanna be Dave  Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK.
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Crawl Wars The Brushes Strike Back!  Fantastic idea Jarod, props for the score!  I can't wait to get mine and do some comparison crawling. These should help w/ those "Hard Lines"!  |
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08-13-2007, 12:33 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On the trail
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hi can you tell what their difference beetwen your 3 motors will be easy if you do some chart or something what about compare these motors : integy 55t axiom 55t integy v10 55t axiom v10 45t assasim 55t , crawlmax 55t and the dominator 55t make a list putting wich is faster, wich is powerfull and wich is smoother .. that will be nice thanks |
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08-13-2007, 12:36 PM
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08-13-2007, 12:39 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On the trail
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and compared to integy and axiom motors? | |
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08-13-2007, 12:45 PM
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08-13-2007, 01:11 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Redlands
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08-13-2007, 01:35 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK.
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Axiom motors are Integy motors. They have just been tuned by Axiom. The cans and end bells used on the Integy motors are not using the latest technology. |
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08-13-2007, 06:44 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vancouver
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Before you say they have more Torque, can you post some Dyno Readings? I have Tested all the cans with Crawler Arms and I am sad to say that the Integy/Axiom Ones put out more Torque on a 10amp Load at 7v. Integy/Axiom = 10.8 CP = 10.5 V2 = 10.1 Difference is in the Springs |
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08-13-2007, 06:53 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: akron
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i am not arguing about the spring thing but there is somthin to be said for better magnets in a can as well. stronger magnet should equal more torque as well. i would like to see some dyno numbers as well just so i know how they compare to what i have been puttin togther. Quote:
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08-13-2007, 07:10 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA
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A Stock Integy 55t I'm not trying to say Axioms are junk by no Means. There Nice motors. Thats way I'll still keep them in stock and push to sell those as well. From my testings, readings and talking with other motor companies. They told me the Can and Mag's made the most Difference. I cold be wrong and misunderstood. Has time allows and I get more numbers for everyone I will post them up. Here are a Few Numbers from Dyno Sheets that I've seen on here.. First is a Post on the some other motors. pullmaster 12t 6.5oz/in@10Amps pullmaster 10t 4.8oz/in@10A modified MM 5.5oz/in@10A 5pole 15T 540 5.4oz/in@10A lathe 55T 4.9oz/in@10A RS540RH 5.0oz/in@6A the Mabuchi will not suck more amps  Johnson540 27t 4.8oz/in@10A Axiom 45t -RPM 6677- 9.0 Torque- 7v Axiom 50t -RPM 6891- 9.7 Torque- 7v Integy 55t -RPM ?- 4.9 Torque- 7v Axiom 70t V10- RPM 5200- 10.00 Torque- 7v The CP Can does Same or More Torque at 2000 less RPM's. I'll have some more numbers soon. Thanks Last edited by run2jeepn; 08-13-2007 at 07:28 PM. | |
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08-13-2007, 07:50 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vancouver
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What Dyno?
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08-13-2007, 09:23 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: akron
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more choices is good. thanks for some numbers. now to start gettin my own i will be using a phantom dyno. and see what i can get out of a integy. springs will make a big diffrance as well in torque. what brushes are you guys using (dgullickson run2jeepn)? I know i wont be doing any of my testing on the CP or orion cans i dont have any but i do have a but load of mod cans. there is no reason brushed motors cant snap as many axles as brushless |
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08-13-2007, 10:30 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle
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A big difference between the Checkpoint based motor and others is that it will start generating the torque at a lower RPM. Example: Checkpoint 55x1: RPM 2444, Torque 9.3 RPM 3430, Torque 9.7 RPM 4812, Torque 10.9* On the other hand, V2 55x1: RPM 2377, Torque 5.5 RPM 3600, Torque 8.3 RPM 4330, Torque 8.5* The V2 would be better suited in situations where you stick at a constant RPM or something with smaller tires, i.e, a 2.2 where low RPM torque may overwhelm the traction of the tire. Something larger would be better suited to a Checkpoint based motor since it can handle the higher torque. It comes on stronger, quicker. We're also finding increasing the voltage of course also increases the torque. Running an 11.1v system will create an insane amount of torque with a Checkpoint based crawler. Quote:
Truth is, there are better alternatives to the Integy and Axiom motors - Crawling is just a market that has not been focused on by any real motor tuners. Now that it is, expect to see some advances in brushed performance. (*) denotes 7v reading. Above quotes using Turbo Dyno 45. :: Wes Briscoe :: Team Brood Racing :: www.teambrood.com | |
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08-14-2007, 07:54 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX
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PM sent! And now....Paypal sent! Last edited by JeremyH; 08-15-2007 at 09:32 AM. |
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08-18-2007, 10:49 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: LaSalle
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hey man im running a integy 65t on my super what CrawlMax version would be best for me? like how many turns? 65t still?
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08-19-2007, 07:41 PM
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08-20-2007, 01:56 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: marysville, washington
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nice scale!
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08-20-2007, 03:23 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Syracuse
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Ok ok... Ive never used a brushless motor before but, how would these compare? Possible dyno? |
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08-23-2007, 03:14 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA
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I have a few 55t CrawlMax's and a few 60t Assassins in stock ready to Ship. I'm still waiting on the First Large order I made. This order should be here this week. And it will fill ever order that has been made so Far. Over time I will keep more motors in stock. But if I don't have it in Stock I will special order any Turn and any motor for you 24/7....  |
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