drive shaft angle?

[mwscooters]

My drive shafts seem to be at a big angle where it connects to the small shaft coming out of the axle. Instead of both of them being in more of a straight line to the tranny like some others I've seen. The shaft coming out of the axles seem to point downward, is this right? Seems like it should point up a little more. If I compress the springs and lower the body you can see that the front axle does not point towards the tranny it points below it. The rear looks the same way.

[fred0000]

my front axle/driveshaft is like that to keep the castor at a decent angle, i'd take off the driveshaft and max out the angle and rotate it by hand, then you can see its "max" angle, just make sure its the same or less when installed and it should be good to go.

shorten your lowers, or lengthen your uppers to correct it if its a concern.

[Reflection]

Thats not really a bad angle. I've seen allot worse. Like stated above, longer uppers or shorter lowers will fix it. Can you get clockable C's to fit? That'd be ideal to keep the caster in check.

[mwscooters]

Originally Posted by fred0000

my front axle/driveshaft is like that to keep the castor at a decent angle, i'd take off the driveshaft and max out the angle and rotate it by hand, then you can see its "max" angle, just make sure its the same or less when installed and it should be good to go.

shorten your lowers, or lengthen your uppers to correct it if its a concern.

I probably need new rods then, when you loosen up the stock rod ends they become to loose if they are not snug to the rod shaft.

[fred0000]

Originally Posted by mwscooters

I probably need new rods then, when you loosen up the stock rod ends they become to loose if they are not snug to the rod shaft.

not necisarly. you can make them longer with spacers, (to a certain extent before you need a longer grub screw)



you could also look into longer or shorter rod ends, then you dont have to worry about cutting your links

[mwscooters]

Originally Posted by Reflection

Thats not really a bad angle. I've seen allot worse. Like stated above, longer uppers or shorter lowers will fix it. Can you get clockable C's to fit? That'd be ideal to keep the caster in check.

Yes I'm new to this what is a clockable C. Thanks

[mwscooters]

Originally Posted by fred0000

not necisarly. you can make them longer with spacers, (to a certain extent before you need a longer grub screw)



you could also look into longer or shorter rod ends, then you dont have to worry about cutting your links

thanks man those are what I need.

[liquidkool]

you could also use a couple of spare nuts on the uppers or drill a new 1/8in hole, closer to the front of the chassis. trust me it wont hurt--- my stock chassis looks like swsis cheese from all my mods

[gerr]

looks pretty close to my angle in front. In rear I lengthened the upper link a bit and made it straighter but in front there is not much you can do with out effecting the caster angle for the knuckles. to much or to little angle and you wont steer correctly but I have yet to experiment on the crawler on that yet. if it doesn't bind up I don't think it will be a big issue

[mwscooters]

Originally Posted by gerr

looks pretty close to my angle in front. In rear I lengthened the upper link a bit and made it straighter but in front there is not much you can do with out effecting the caster angle for the knuckles. to much or to little angle and you wont steer correctly but I have yet to experiment on the crawler on that yet. if it doesn't bind up I don't think it will be a big issue

Made a couple of spacers just over 1/16 of an inch thick. Added them to the upper links and now its perfect. Thanks to all who commented.

[rmdesignworks]

the easiest way to rotate the front axle so the pinion angle rises is to move the lower links to the outside of the link tabs but install a spacer or rod end ball in between the tabs to support them, dont just screw the links to the tabs and cause them to squeeze together. The rotate the lower links so the bends are actually horizontal and the front bend is turned inward to allow for more tire clearance.

[mwscooters]

Originally Posted by rmdesignworks

the easiest way to rotate the front axle so the pinion angle rises is to move the lower links to the outside of the link tabs but install a spacer or rod end ball in between the tabs to support them, dont just screw the links to the tabs and cause them to squeeze together. The rotate the lower links so the bends are actually horizontal and the front bend is turned inward to allow for more tire clearance.

Sounds like a good idea,thanks

[asw27x]

Originally Posted by gerr

looks pretty close to my angle in front. In rear I lengthened the upper link a bit and made it straighter but in front there is not much you can do with out effecting the caster angle for the knuckles. to much or to little angle and you wont steer correctly but I have yet to experiment on the crawler on that yet. if it doesn't bind up I don't think it will be a big issue

you probably put your caster blocks on the wrong side because they go on a specific way min points up

[mwscooters]

Originally Posted by asw27x

you probably put your caster blocks on the wrong side because they go on a specific way min points up

Do you have a pic of what your talking about thanks

[liquidkool]

your c-hubs are on correctly they only appear backward because of your axle is clocked to the back.................lengthen your uppers1/4" will make a big difference.

[mwscooters]

Originally Posted by liquidkool

your c-hubs are on correctly they only appear backward because of your axle is clocked to the back.................lengthen your uppers1/4" will make a big difference.

Thanks for the post, I'm glad that you let me know they were on right. I was starting to think they were wrong.