2008: USRCCA Official Rules Info

[Fishmaxx]

The 2008 Rules are done!

Thanks to the hard work of its 33 member Rules Committee that were chosen by their own USRCCA sanctioned clubs.
You can find out who those members are by clicking on the Forum Leaders Tab

They are your most valuable resource for factual RULES information



The 2008 rules has had some big changes
Here are the biggest

1) No more separate penalties for TOUCH, TOOL, or REPOSITION.
You touch your truck for any reason (except rollover recovery) its 10 pts, and its returned to the EXIT of previous gate cleared (Rule 1.4)


2) The Rules now have a numbering system to make it easier reference a particular rule in a discussion.

3)Wording for Boundary Markers was added so it would be consistent from club to club to Nats (Rule 1.6)

4) Tuber Class has been changed to Bodiless Class
Bodiless Class now includes Unibodies, Tubers, and Hybrid Chassis that didn't previously fit into the tuber only class. Those trucks were previously required to run bodies.

The quick simple explanation of the Bodiless Class is:

Must have

A) Hood
B) Roof raised 1" from hood
C) Sidepanels of 1" x 2.5"
D Length of (8" for 2.2 & 12" for Super)
E) Height of 3.75"
F) Width of 3.0"
G) Should resemble a 1:1 vehicle

Thats the simple /basic explanation, and the exact wording can be found in (Section 2).

In most peoples opinion the rules have become a lot SIMPLER, but any change always creates confusion. I started this forum to help with any confusion that the members may have.
HELP is the keyword, so if anyone feels the need argue or disagree with the changes do it some place else because those posts will be deleted from this thread

http://www.usrcca.com/rules2008.pdf

Moderators, Thanks in advance for the HELP

[Rckcrwlr]

Nice work guys...I know this is a difficult process.

I like the changes...

Keep up the great work!!!!!

Now go have a beer..

[jetboat]

question on bodieless... If a vehicle resembling a 1:1 but made in TVP style with solid hood and solid roof was to run a "panel" on either side, would this classify within the rules?

bodied Vehicle question: The new rules state its as "
full original width, and no less than 5” in the center" where the old rules were
"full original width, or no less than 5” in the center" Does this eliminate Small 1/10 bodies that are not 5" wide?

I ask these questions from a judges standpoint not from a builder or competors.

[Grizzly4x4]

Yes, any body less than 5" wide will not be allowed.

The Bodyless rule was made so that vehicles like this would be allowed as long as they meet the bodyless vehicle requirements, as stated in the rules.

[jetboat]

exactly what I was looking for!!!! Thanks! Great Job guys!!

[Mad Scientist]

I am glad to see the addition of the "bodiless" classification

[ColquittCustom405]

Rules look good guys.Thanks for getting these out so quick. I haven't had time to look over everything.....Is cheating still illegal?

[Unholy]

Originally Posted by ColquittCustom405

Rules look good guys.Thanks for getting these out so quick. I haven't had time to look over everything.....Is cheating still illegal?

Only if you are a nobody.

[PinchFlat]

Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

The quick simple explanation of the Bodiless Class is:

Must have

A) Hood
B) Roof raised 1" from hood
C) Sidepanels of 1" x 2.5"
D Length of 8.5"
E) Height of 3.75"
F) Width of 3.0"
G) Should resemble a 1:1 vehicle

These D,E & F bodiless measurements are for 2.2 class only
D Length of 8.5"
E) Height of 3.75"
F) Width of 3.0"

The D,E & F bodiless measurements for Super class are:
D Length of 12"
E) Height of 3.75"
F) Width of 3.0"

[Fishmaxx]

Fixed it for me

[derwood21]

Glad to see the new bodiless rules. Just want to know if I need to put side panels on my rig or if the chassis is solid enough to be considered the side panels.If I do need to put side panels on, is it ok to have them on the inside of the chassis plates or do they need to be on the outside. Thanks

[PinchFlat]

Originally Posted by derwood21

Glad to see the new bodiless rules. Just want to know if I need to put side panels on my rig or if the chassis is solid enough to be considered the side panels.If I do need to put side panels on, is it ok to have them on the inside of the chassis plates or do they need to be on the outside. Thanks
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It will need side panels. In Section 2.1.3.1 you can read the official rule.

There is no rule exactly stating you can not run them on the inside but is running them inside go against this, "solid material installed onto the bodiless vehicle frame" & "installed in a manner that is representative of a 1:1 vehicle"?

[MattG]

So mass produced bodies that are 1/10 but less than 5 inches wide at the roof (NON modified (aka stock)) will NOT be allowed?

Just clarifying...
Thanks
Matt

[run2jeepn]

2.1.2 - Bodied vehicles: Any support chassis allowed. Body must be 3” minimum height on sides. No
less than 12.5” total length and full original width, and no less than 5” in the center. All bodies should
resemble its original form (Jeep bodies look like a Jeep)

Why was this kept? If 5in or Wider is legal, why does it matter if it's stock Cab width or not? The only thing that part of the rule is good for is to give more reasons to run either the Grappler or RockStar bodies.

I like the fact that the 1/10th Scale body rule is gone.

[joesbruiser]

Quick question. The rules say you cant run the same rig in two different classes.
My question is can the same rig be run in the same class but by two different drivers? If i remember corectly this caused a issue at the 2nd SERCRC event last year.
The reason i am asking is i have a 8 year old who competes with me and it is expensive to have 2-2.2's and 2-super trucks.

[Rockshow]

Originally Posted by PinchFlat

These D,E & F bodiless measurements are for 2.2 class only
D Length of 8.5"
E) Height of 3.75"
F) Width of 3.0"

The D,E & F bodiless measurements for Super class are:
D Length of 12"
E) Height of 3.75"
F) Width of 3.0"

In D) it says 8.5" Length, When you open the file it say 8" like last year?

[TwistedCreations]

Originally Posted by joesbruiser

Quick question. The rules say you cant run the same rig in two different classes.
My question is can the same rig be run in the same class but by two different drivers? If i remember corectly this caused a issue at the 2nd SERCRC event last year.
The reason i am asking is i have a 8 year old who competes with me and it is expensive to have 2-2.2's and 2-super trucks.

Technically, there is no rule on that. I think it is dependant upon the club and what they use. You should ask the club that you particularly run with.

TSC had passed a rule, that multiple drivers can not use the same truck in a class. Some of the members felt that it was a mild case of prerunning, as you can sit there, let your son drive your truck and see how it handles certain obstacles and such. Then you know what to do and what not to do to make your run better. I can see where they are coming from and their view to keep it fair for everyone. I honestly could care less, but I'm only 1 vote in the club

[Fishmaxx]

Originally Posted by joesbruiser

Quick question. The rules say you cant run the same rig in two different classes.
My question is can the same rig be run in the same class but by two different drivers? If i remember corectly this caused a issue at the 2nd SERCRC event last year.
The reason i am asking is i have a 8 year old who competes with me and it is expensive to have 2-2.2's and 2-super trucks.

Killlertxt had 2x 2.2's, and drove one in each class, and some of the guys also wanted to run Super with their 2.2's trucks. The difference was the rest of the guys wanted to run the same truck in 2 classes, and you already know the answer to that

1x Truck/2x Drivers ? I would allow it. While some people do feel they way TC mentioned theres nothing from stopping 2x people from building identical trucks, and doing the same thing.

The way I look at it you twice the wear and tear and a greater chance of breaking, so a broken axle could take out 2 competitors. Which means I just move up 2x spots

Originally Posted by Rockshow

In D) it says 8.5" Length, When you open the file it say 8" like last year?

Your right.......My truck is 8.5 inchs, and I think thats what I read off my notes Sorry for the confusion.

[TwistedXT]

i love rule 1.4!!! thats going to make the comps very very interesting!!!

[jason]

Originally Posted by MattG

So mass produced bodies that are 1/10 but less than 5 inches wide at the roof (NON modified (aka stock)) will NOT be allowed?

Just clarifying...
Thanks
Matt

You are correct. Any body less than 5" wide would not be allowed.

Originally Posted by run2jeepn

2.1.2 - Bodied vehicles: Any support chassis allowed. Body must be 3” minimum height on sides. No
less than 12.5” total length and full original width, and no less than 5” in the center. All bodies should
resemble its original form (Jeep bodies look like a Jeep)

Why was this kept? If 5in or Wider is legal, why does it matter if it's stock Cab width or not? The only thing that part of the rule is good for is to give more reasons to run either the Grappler or RockStar bodies.

I like the fact that the 1/10th Scale body rule is gone.

Because we don't want people narrowing bodies.

Originally Posted by joesbruiser

Quick question. The rules say you cant run the same rig in two different classes.
My question is can the same rig be run in the same class but by two different drivers? If i remember corectly this caused a issue at the 2nd SERCRC event last year.
The reason i am asking is i have a 8 year old who competes with me and it is expensive to have 2-2.2's and 2-super trucks.

That will depend on your local club. However at Nationals that will not fly.