Alternate gate ruling please

[JPH Racing]

Jason: This questions was asked somewhere else, but not fully ruled on, can you help please?

>>>I also have a question on bonus gates. It seams that the bonus gates setup at the Bean and Manteca course 3 were actually alternate gates. It was ruled that if you pointed out you did not receive the -10 points for completing the alternate gate. 4.6.2 does not state this. It only says that normal scoring rules apply with the exception of (1) free reverse to opt out. So if normal scoring rules apply you would refer back to 1.10 Progress Bonus for the alternate gate, correct? So if you get the alternate gate prior to pointing out, you should get the -10 points, right?


REFERENCE
4.6 - Optional:
• 4.6.1 - Bonus Gates: (up to –10 points per course) award negative points against the total score if the
driver is successful in clearing these gates. Bonus Gates have special rules. No Reverse or Rollover
penalties will be assessed while attempting a bonus gate. If a driver needs to Reposition or hits a Gate
Marker a Bonus Gate will not be awarded. Although grouped with a course, bonus gates are not part of an
actual course, but may be attempted after completing the course where the bonus gate is located (within
the time limit of that course - if applicable).
• 4.6.2 - Alternate Gates: (up to -10 points per course) are a secondary set of gates that is part of the
course. These gates will be very difficult. Normal Scoring rules apply with the exception of (1) Free
Reverse/Back Up, this is used in order to abort your attempt and continue on the regular course.

1.10 - Progress bonus: (-1 progress point) will be awarded to drivers for each gate that is cleared by the
vehicle during the attempt of a course. Both axles of the vehicle must clear a gate, and not just break the
plane of the gate, before progress bonus is awarded. These points are deducted from the total course
score. Once a driver has pointed out, no further Progress Points will be awarded. A progress bonus will not
be awarded for the start gate or the finish gate.

[JPH Racing]

Anyone?

[Fishmaxx]

Originally Posted by JPH Racing

I also have a question on bonus gates. It seams that the bonus gates setup at the Bean and Manteca course 3 were actually alternate gates. It was ruled that if you pointed out you did not receive the -10 points for completing the alternate gate. 4.6.2 does not state this. It only says that normal scoring rules apply with the exception of (1) free reverse to opt out. So if normal scoring rules apply you would refer back to 1.10 Progress Bonus for the alternate gate, correct? So if you get the alternate gate prior to pointing out, you should get the -10 points, right?

Normal Scoring Rules do apply on alternate gates, so progress points and bonus points should be given. Thats the rule....however if the course designer said in ADVANCE during the drivers meeting that it would be done diffrently thats a diffrent story.

[PROTOTYPE]

I agree with fish, when we do bonus gates we run them after the course is done. I beleave "alternate " gates are there as a way to get you around the course a different way but still scored normally and such.