Rudukai13
Quarry Creeper
Darn, looks like it's just you and me talking this thing over now...So now what?
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Who is watching the inauguration today?
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binaryterror
I wanna be Dave
Shaun, I clearly posted the reason of the claimed Bush vs. Obama inauguration. Try reading. The $45 Million on Bushs did not include state and local funds required, travel, or security detail. Those numbers are in the estimated $150 Million.
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200901170003
Bush is a conservative in theory, but far from a Republican. This is what truly will continue to haunt and hurt the Republicans for decades. His very uncontrolled spending and drive for a larger control of government only increased the size of government (the Republican stance is smaller federal government and lower taxes). He allowed bills (yes more than the Patriot Act) that allowed citizens to be spyed on for no valid reason. He ran somehow under the Republicans, but none of his actions or ideals are Republican.
"He's keeping us safe from Terrorism"? Thats the biggest farce ever. It's been proven and even admitted by the White House and high ranking Military commanders that Iraq did not have as much to do with Terrorism as Afghanistan. Our friends Saudi Arabia (The Bush family is very close friends with their current leader) gave more money to Al-Qaeda than Iraq.
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200901170003
Bush is a conservative in theory, but far from a Republican. This is what truly will continue to haunt and hurt the Republicans for decades. His very uncontrolled spending and drive for a larger control of government only increased the size of government (the Republican stance is smaller federal government and lower taxes). He allowed bills (yes more than the Patriot Act) that allowed citizens to be spyed on for no valid reason. He ran somehow under the Republicans, but none of his actions or ideals are Republican.
"He's keeping us safe from Terrorism"? Thats the biggest farce ever. It's been proven and even admitted by the White House and high ranking Military commanders that Iraq did not have as much to do with Terrorism as Afghanistan. Our friends Saudi Arabia (The Bush family is very close friends with their current leader) gave more money to Al-Qaeda than Iraq.
montana.matt
RCC Addict
I hope we don't have to listen to this Obama pickle kissing festival for the next 4 years:roll:
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I could care less what color the guy is, he could be blue for all I care. What I don't care for is the "cradle to grave" society him, Hillary, and other dorks are wanting to do with the country. Didn't work with Carter, won't work now.
If some bigot does manage to get passed the insane security to him and take him out I only pray its not with a gun and not in the US. If that happens here and with a gun there will be so many new laws made, if we don't loose them altogether. Then we're stuck with that dipshit Biden.
If some bigot does manage to get passed the insane security to him and take him out I only pray its not with a gun and not in the US. If that happens here and with a gun there will be so many new laws made, if we don't loose them altogether. Then we're stuck with that dipshit Biden.
binaryterror
I wanna be Dave
You are so right on this...theory and law will change if it did happen.
Hope is a bad thing? Come on now, anything is better than what Bush did. Could Obama go over as a more lame duck...certainly, but I doubt he will be any worse than Bush. The Patriot Act to me is much like many in the NRA feel about gun laws. I believe the Patriot Act to be a violation of my civil rights in the constitution, just the same as people thinking banning a hand gun would be to their civil rights in the same constitution.
Like I've said he isn't going to change much...its impossible for 1 man to change Washington.
montana.matt
RCC Addict
False hope is bad thing and that's what he's doing. He promised to make all these changes..... some of which he's already admitted he wont be able to do.
The only people that should fear the Patriot Act are the ones who have something to hide. I don't have anything to hide, so I don't fear the Patriot Act.
I don't believe he'll change much, if anything at all. I'm not concerned about "him" trying to take my guns away. It won't happen.... at least not at my residence.
I don't care about his color. That's a stupid argument. What I do care about is the platform on which he ran and the fact that so many uninformed people blindly voted for him.
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completly agree! also with the issue of cost of security how much more do you think the US ecoonomy plumit if somthing happened to the president don't you guys think forign investors would lose trust in the US.
notice that upon election more than just the democrats in the US celebrated. there was celebration all over the world! hell even france, FRANCE !!!. that has to count for somthing.
as for bush and funding al qaeda:
the first official order from bush was to pick up members of the binladen family and fly them to camp david for vacation
protecting his investment i guess
*im not one for concpiracy theories especially ones that concern 9/11, mainly because i was there, and know what i saw.
bush is so pround there hasent been another major terrorist attack on the US since 9/11. wtf? so does he want a cookie? congratulations! kinda like me killing a guy 8 years ago than saying, "hey i least i havent killed anyone since 2001... cookie, please"
obama won the election fair and square and is now president GET OVER IT!!!!!! you dont like it move to canada
he clearly won the election, and honestly i dont think that the reason he was voted in was not because of his ethnicity. people were tired of bush, and since he was a republican people were definatly going to vote democrat no matter who the candidate was. heck if bush's wife ran as a democrat she might have won. i dont think many people realize how tired the american majority was of the republican party because of bush. plus the fact that mccain would act like a senile old man at times and palin was a complete air head, im actually surprised his party got the amount of votes it did
it will be hard for one man to change washington and the current state of the US and yes false hope is a bad thing, but at least there's that little hope
*holy crap that was sappy i think i just grew a vagina
ohh yeah and just to annoy the obama haters out there
YES WE CAN B!@tCHEZ !!!
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mexiCAN
Pebble Pounder
Does anyone really know what "change" and "hope" obama is talking about? I've come to the conclusion thats pretty much whatever you want it to be, if you hate Bush because it's popular sheepish thing to do, then obama is your guy, be cause he is different than Bush, he reallly hasn't said how or what he will do to "change" but everyone takes his word for it. "Hope" "oh obama is gonna pay my bills" "he is the messiah" everyone hopes that he will take us out of the economic recesession when in fact he is asscociated with the problem that caused a lot of this in the first place, people buying houses they could not afford, that the government mandate the banks loan. that was not Bush my freinds, that was the dems lining their pockets with mortgage backed securities that they were investing into places like leman brothers (they turned out ok :roll
, who do you think was a major recipient of gifts from freddie and fannie, your US senator Obama. I think their will be "change" all right, you will see this country "change" into France, and I "hope" we still have half of our freedoms, by the time this is over.
, who do you think was a major recipient of gifts from freddie and fannie, your US senator Obama. I think their will be "change" all right, you will see this country "change" into France, and I "hope" we still have half of our freedoms, by the time this is over.
crawl rookie
Rock Crawler
Uuhm The us decides llot of thing in whole world, we are in Iraq because of the us etc, not blaming anyhow only stating that america decides alot of things in foreign countrys;-).
binaryterror
I wanna be Dave
As if McCain could do the same? My major problem on McCain's poor debates and town halls is he would spout off he knew how to fix something and move on, not even mentioning a plan. That right there is vote gathering on unfounded ideals.
You sir are mis-guided. First comes the Patriot Act, next is something worse more intrusive. The point to not support a wee-tarded Patriot Act is to prevent the Big Brother government spying on me. They can come in anytime they want with a proper legal search warrant...but the Patriot Act allows them to skip that step when "they" feel it matters.
The Bush lies about the Patriot Act were, "we'll catch terrorists!" So its another way for him to give the government the ability control and spy on its citizens that was enacted with a lie. Just like the war with Iraq.
Shaun
Rock Crawler
You should only be afraid if you have something to hide. The government isn't going to care what your doing, as long as it is legal. You should break away from the rest of the sheep and actually do some research.
montana.matt
RCC Addict
Well fawk.... knowing France approves of the election just made my fawkin day:roll: And no, it doesn't count for sh!t....
Spoken like a real Obama supporter drunked up on a 40 of Old E:lol:
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montana.matt
RCC Addict
When did I bring up McCain? Do you automatically ASSume that because I don't support Obama I would support McCain? That just goes to show that you would blindly follow Obama to the slaughterhouse along with all the other sheeple:lol:
With the liberal crapola that flows so freely from your mouth (or keyboard) like a sewer pump, I'm surprised you don't live on the left coast:lol:
Like I already said, I don't have anything to hide, so I'm not concerned one bit about the Patriot Act..... Now you, on the other hand, must have something to hide since it worries you so much.....
Oh yeah... and don't call me "sir"
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Because the country has come along way. I doubt it meant much more than that.
from slavery to segregation then civil rights to equality
I bet Denzel, along with many black people his age experienced plenty of racial hatred as a youngster. Hell, I grew up in the 90's and I'm half black and I've experienced some pretty rough shit, just for being half black. I have also been made fun of for being half white...imagine that.
To grow up where you aren't considered as an equal and to one day see a president that is like you is very important.
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I don't think the push to get him elected was because he was half black. I think all of the celebrations and praise is because he is black. It blows me away that alot of people (a few rcc members) blame un-educated black people for voting for Obama, when in fact the U.S. has a 74% white population and only a 13% black population. His win wasn't about race! :shock:
the only reason i use france as an example of global aproval of obama is the fact that france has always hated the US.
well.. after the staue of liberty, the relationship between france and the us has gone down hill.
but if a country like france can celebrate at the election of obama, it could lead to the rise of confidence in te US in the world market. yes i understand the idea of "so what those are other countries and not the US so why should i care about getting their approval."
its a problem with the "world" market and "global" economy not just the US.
and sorry no OE, for me malt gives me mudd butt
im a new castle guy"thumbsup"
*ohh btw i dont concider myself a democrat or republican. i know it may seem like im a hardcore democrat but trust me im not. i pick and choose which ideals best suit me, and would not want to be tied to a single party. i watch both fox news network along w/ aljazerra, my friends consist of super liberal college students from berkley along w/ a couple of guys who have ss, 88, and confederate flag tattos on their necks.
and you know what, some people complain about taxes being raised and i actually dont care. im more than willing to pay more taxes if it means the US economy will be better for it. im only 27 and i already own 4 houses and 3 businesses, if paying extra every quarter leads my property value to go up i'm all for it
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binaryterror
I wanna be Dave
When it comes to the Patriot Act they can tap any phone records, internet usage, medical records, financial records and transactions and even illegal search and seizure without the original guarantee in the Bill Of Rights...
What you all fail to understand is there has always been a legal way for the government to do this. It can all be done through a court order with evidence. This USA PATRIOT Act is actually a way for them to check without having to provide the proof needed for a court to give the legal right for law enforcement to access your life records or your home.
Who was the only other option who had a chance to win an election? No one else was even in the same game as McCain or Obama.
It's not the action I'm worried about it's government removing my civil liberties and my lack of confidence in their Intelligence bureaus. It's no different than having the Second Amendment turned around. You protect yourself with a gun, I protect myself by having all my own business under my watchful eye, not the governments. The government can't even think straight...I'd prefer them to not have access to my life without proper legal "just cause."
Right I agree with that, I agree that we have came a long way and i think that is awesome, but to say the greatest inauguration ever?
binaryterror
I wanna be Dave
Apparently in 10 years, according to Larry King, a Lesbian will be in office: http://fromtheleft.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/cnns-larry-king-in-10-years-well-have-a-what-a-lesbian/
I didn't think Hiliary was gonna run again.
