Are Shafties competitive anymore?

[Cheatin]

I still don't see how a rig with two motors and no shafts and front and rear dig (dig is still for fags BTW) is allowed to compete in the same class as a shaft rig. But what do I know. They should split the classes, one motor or two motors. Simple.

 

[raul duke]

You must have not been around last year when Austin ran a Berg.....he went back to a shafty, just like me and a bunch of people around the country. I sold mine after nationals(needed the money with work being so slow)but I built another one in february....which I sold a couple weeks after that. I like the consistency of a shafty, I know exactly what it is going to do, not have to worry about whether it will stall and pull you off line. I know you can use the stall to your advantage, but I have seen it be a disadvantage more times than not.
I like that you have to use your head and spend more time to tune a shafty, to make it work to it's full potential"thumbsup". If you like being lazy and don't like being mentally stimulated to to get the most out of your car, build an MOA;-)(what a meaner:!:ror::ror:

So what your saying is you don't even have to tune an MOA to be competitive? Sounds like magic to me.;-)

 

[JavelinSST390]

Here's what it is:

You can THE most dialed-in rig in the world and if you can't drive it doesn't mean squat.

I could give my scaler to Austin Dunn or E-Hills4x4 and drive their comp-winning rigs and they would still kick my a$$.

 

[halfcab]

Here's what it is:

You can THE most dialed-in rig in the world and if you can't drive it doesn't mean squat.

I could give my scaler to Austin Dunn or E-Hills4x4 and drive their comp-winning rigs and they would still kick my a$$.

bingo.......what he said:roll::lol::lol:"thumbsup"

welll not my scaler but my comp rig probably:shock:;-)

 

[Reflection]

So what your saying is you don't even have to tune an MOA to be competitive? Sounds like magic to me.;-)

I heard they drove themselves.....They don't.:lol::lol:




Both are 2 totally different apples. They need different tuning and need to be driven differently. Both can be competitive.

 

[sean68]

Moa is kinda like cheating in 2.2 if ya ask me...? If competitive crawling is to continue they need to be in different classes! The standard in 2.2 crawling is a shaft driven rig!!! I have no problems with moa rigs, but like i said its kinda cheating if ya ask me..... makes it too easy!! At the same time there won't be enough people to make up a moa class....

 

[Robb]

Cliff Climber for '09/'10...............watch for it!!;-)

 

[Harvo]

I saw a lot of Bergs at ECC that sucked eggs... and a lot of shaftys too. Having one doesn't make you a winner.

They are both just trucks. I tuned my AX10 for a year and got it dialed. I'm still tuning the Berg, but it hasn't helped me finish any better than the shafty yet... it does however seem to do just as well but a little easier. "thumbsup"

Both take tuning... just for different things.

 

[Stormin2u]

I like my "TLT" shafty I changed out the chassis and made some other changes to my set up for 2009 and it's a better rig and in IMHO my truck is still more capable than I am so no need to make a complete change as in "MOA".
As they say it comes down to talent, driver skill, set up and the line that's the real deal.
I agree with TwistedCreations earlier statement about the new Losi 1/10th truck it could just prove to be the "hot hand" this year who knows?
This hobby is perfect for the guy who gets easily board with things because there's a new have to have it gadget every other week that's great and that's bad sometimes to some folks never seem to get any better by changing things. IMO the best rig in the world wouldn't change my finishing position all that much as I still got plenty of dues to pay. :lol:"thumbsup"

 

[Robb8]

It is all about PRACTICE,PRACTOCE,PRACTICE. The more you know the rig that you are going to run the better you will do with that rig being a moa or shafty. Piont being you need to know your rig inside and out for every spot that you put it into. Just my two cents

 

[Da Hermit]

I may be a berg man but becouse I had to downsize from 4 comp crawler's, The Berg was the last one to sell. I get beat by shafties all the time if this helps you out.:roll:

 

[roksloski]

this quote is from a guy that just sold his shafty to go the burg route for the advantage...:lol::lol: LOL

yes the can, bottom line, it comes down to driver and picking good lines and good set up.

 

[Pdog7]

I have competed with a shafty and recently switched to a Berg. If they are basically the same and it is up to the driver then why all the bitching about seperate classes? If it seems like a distinct competitive advantage and it is legal then why not drive one? I know for me the mechanical dig and lack of reliability is what drove me to the dark side. If some company can come up with a reliable dig that won't bind and actually engage/disengage when needed I think more people would stick with a shafty. I used to think I would never switch to a Berg, until I drove one....nuff said"thumbsup"

 

[Cheatin]

I have competed with a shafty and recently switched to a Berg. If they are basically the same and it is up to the driver then why all the bitching about seperate classes? If it seems like a distinct competitive advantage and it is legal then why not drive one? I know for me the mechanical dig and lack of reliability is what drove me to the dark side. If some company can come up with a reliable dig that won't bind and actually engage/disengage when needed I think more people would stick with a shafty. I used to think I would never switch to a Berg, until I drove one....nuff said"thumbsup"

I thought when I read the rules (and I could be wrong), you could only have either a front or a rear dig, not both. If this is true, then how can the Berg's get away with both digs?

 

[BEELZEBOB]

the new losi isnt dual digs?

and isnt the functional cabability of a dig directly related to who puts it togeather?

all this shafty shit talk makes wnat to prove y'all wrong even more.

i figure those who dont have th patience or mental prowess to tune a shafty went for a MOA

 

[treday619]

I thought when I read the rules (and I could be wrong), you could only have either a front or a rear dig, not both. If this is true, then how can the Berg's get away with both digs?

I went through the rules and didn't see anything. Anthony just buy a pink dig so you will feel at home.

 

[Cheatin]

I went through the rules and didn't see anything. Anthony just buy a pink dig so you will feel at home.

Man, I'll never go gay and put a dig in my rear. :ror:

 

[Pdog7]

and isnt the functional cabability of a dig directly related to who puts it togeather?


Maybe so...but you can't polish a booger"thumbsup"

 

[joesbruiser]

Austin was running a Shaft truck at ECC this year.
Last year I finished second to him when he was running a berg and I was running a shafty.This year I finished in the spot behind him again with him running a shafty and myself running a Berg.
They are both competitive rigs.

Now if you want to talk crazy Scary watch Austin drive my Berg:shock:

 

[MISFITCOMPER]

All I can say is that in the rear crawler world you dont see engine on axel, because it a stupid idea. shaft driven is what my 1.1 jeep has so my 2.2 crawler will too. Oh, and Bergs are going to get killed this comp season with all the losi 2.2s, rock forces, and who knows who will go worm gear in the future. All I can say is that the worm gears have zero torque twist, have shafts.