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fire dept in tenn lets house burn down cuz ownwer forgot to pay $75 annual fee

I'll agree that since the property owner refused to pay the fee, he then gives up the right to have the FD respond to a fire at his home.

But...when the FD was called out to the other home right next door, at this point since they were already responding to a fire RIGHT THERE...you'd think they'd then put it out at the other place and bill the guy.

At least from what the vid shows...it would have been a simple structure to extinguish and was already mostly burnt by the time they got there. If it had been a large multi level structure where safety of the fire fighters was an issue...then OK...but they could have put that fire out standing near the truck using a hose.

One thing it proves...you can't get something for nothing in this world, even if it's a question of morality.
 
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If I was a firefighter at that scene I would have done something to help put that fire out. WTF is with society today, not my problem let the unfortunate fend for themselves. Those firefighters should feel like the useless dicks they were that night. What if it were more personal, a firefighter's family that didn't pay the fee, do you think they would stand by and let it burn? F'n rediculous. What a fine example this fire dept. is of compassionate human beings. :roll:
 
A couple questions that were not answered...maybe weren't even asked. Once they were on site, maybe they should have put it out at that point. However, was there a hydrant or water source nearby or did they exhaust their pumper truck and all resources controlling the neighboring house?
 
A couple questions that were not answered...maybe weren't even asked. Once they were on site, maybe they should have put it out at that point. However, was there a hydrant or water source nearby or did they exhaust their pumper truck and all resources controlling the neighboring house?
the firefighters themselves were devastated..they called thier chief or whatever buerocrat makes those decisions.. who was apparently a few blocks away golfing..and he orded them to stand down and do nothing..all a big ****ing corporate decision:roll:..except fire and police services are supposed to be essential service..at least where i come from..this would not happen here..the fact that there was no action to begin with caused the other house to burn, what if someone died there?..put the ****in fire out and bill them..put a lien on the house, ..this isnt that hard to figure out:roll:
 
If I was a firefighter at that scene I would have done something to help put that fire out. WTF is with society today, not my problem let the unfortunate fend for themselves. Those firefighters should feel like the useless dicks they were that night. What if it were more personal, a firefighter's family that didn't pay the fee, do you think they would stand by and let it burn? F'n rediculous. What a fine example this fire dept. is of compassionate human beings. :roll:

Took the words right out of my mouth."thumbsup"

Its sad....

I've been a Volunteer Firefighter for several years now and I just cannot believe that they stood idly by and watched the house burn down. They didn't even respond to the fire until a neighbor called to say their house was on fire.
Even when the dept showed up they could not have saved what was started on the original house. If a house is on fire and creates enough heat to start a secondary home on fire, the first house is too far gone to save anyways.

In Indiana here, we have a county network of fire departments. Each town in the county is divided up into townships which each department will cover a certain township or townships. Our department is funded by tax dollars. Each call that we go on is billed to the homeowner or responsible party. Minimum charge for a Fire/Accident is $350 plus whatever materials were used. Overtime is charged if the incident lasts more than an 2 hours.

Even if the homeowner did not pay his "Protection Fee" I still don't think it was right for department to let the house burn down. There should always be an "emergency option"

We don't do background and credit checks on the people and homes that are involved with an incident. There are times that we don't get paid for our services after an event. That does not mean that we will refuse service to those people.

To have a department refuse service is an abomination. Those firefighters have to feel bad about what they did. To sit there while a persons home is destroyed and their lives turned upside down is a Horrible thing. And to add insult to injury, the department sends the guy a $19,000 bill for doing NOTHING!! What the hell is going on there??

Firefighters are covered under an insurance plan when they are working, just the same as you and I are with our employer. Even as Volunteers, they are covered under a plan. Volunteers are there to help, we ask for nothing in return, its just something that we do. We risk life and limb every time we climb in a truck and we do it because we WANT to. Saving life and property is what we are about. It seems that this departments values are a little upside down. You didn't pay your fire protection fee, Oops, Tough Shit, guess your ****ed now. Too bad, So Sad. Guess you learned your lesson now Huh? WTF. That is just wrong.
Those guys on that Dept should feel like SHIT. They had a Duty to Act and they did not. I hope they all have troubles sleeping at night, knowing they RUINED a families home.
I wonder what would happen if they forgot to pay their "Fire Bill" Wonder if there is a bit of a double standard there.
Small town shit is all the same. I'm sure if it was a friend or family member of the chief, that house would still be standing. Its all about whose ass your nose is up. Hell, its like that everywhere, even here on RCC.

There is a certain thing in the emergency field called "Duty to Act". Basically it means that if you are an emergency worker, and witness an event happening, they have the Duty to Act and help that person. If an EMT is off duty and a person at the gas station collapses, the EMT even though he is off duty, has the responsibility to help that person. Serious repercussions can be had if it is know that an EMT was on scene but chose not to act. Same holds true for Firefighters. Its a moral and ethical thing. I just can't believe that for a $75 fee that someones home was ALLOWED to burn and their pets KILLED because a department had not received their money for the year. SAD..

I can understand why the delay because of the non payment. Its a "Fire Contract" that they failed to sign up for. But even though they failed to pay that fee, another arrangements could be made to save their property.

Those firefighters and that Fire Dept should be ashamed.
 
the firefighters themselves were devastated..they called thier chief or whatever buerocrat makes those decisions.. who was apparently a few blocks away golfing..and he orded them to stand down and do nothing..all a big ****ing corporate decision:roll:..except fire and police services are supposed to be essential service..at least where i come from..this would not happen here..the fact that there was no action to begin with caused the other house to burn, what if someone died there?..put the ****in fire out and bill them..put a lien on the house, ..this isnt that hard to figure out:roll:



it wasnt some big corporate decision---really, it was a policy that has been in effect for 20 years and this family decided not to pay or just by chance forgot to pay, the world need to wake up there are 3 things I am entitled to : stay the color i was born, enjoy the relationship i have with the lord, and death any more than that is my responsibilty, not your and not anyone else. hey i think i going down to the gas station and bitch cause they didnt give my gas instead of me paying for it. whatever..
 
it wasnt some big corporate decision---really, it was a policy that has been in effect for 20 years and this family decided not to pay or just by chance forgot to pay, the world need to wake up there are 3 things I am entitled to : stay the color i was born, enjoy the relationship i have with the lord, and death any more than that is my responsibilty, not your and not anyone else. hey i think i going down to the gas station and bitch cause they didnt give my gas instead of me paying for it. whatever..
So you are saying even if the family honestly forgot the $75 payment they deserve no help whatsoever from a fellow human being. Because you were not perfect and "forgot" to pay, your whole family should just accept what happened and move on? I don't understand the hard ass attitude.
 
So you are saying even if the family honestly forgot the $75 payment they deserve no help whatsoever from a fellow human being. Because you were not perfect and "forgot" to pay, your whole family should just accept what happened and move on? I don't understand the hard ass attitude.



no what i am saying and the policy is saying if every idiot in this outskirt town forgot to pay the 75. how would they fund this program to even provide it.... oh thats right it should be free... no ...
see i live in city limits, this same thing is paid in my taxes theres isnt so the fee is in place to cover expenses for coming out. to me its simple you dont pay you dont get the service
 
Those firefighters and that Fire Dept should be ashamed.

I agree with that. I'm surprised they didn't do what they could anyways, then take the punishment from the boss, the media would make them out to be heros instead. Could have went the complete other way...



I bet everyone pays the $75 next time the bill comes around.
 
I can't believe some of the responses...not even feeling bad for someone who lost everything. It's not like it was just a tree or something that was on fire, it was a HOME! Everything they owned was probably in there. Who knows how many lives those firefighters affected by choosing to stand around and watch while that families life was be ruined. I know it's not quite as bad, but say you and your dad were watching tv and he all of a sudden collapsed and you called the paramedics. They come out and have all the gear and equipment with them ready to work. Then they get word that, OOPS! you guys forgot to pay that fee and they just stood around while your dad lay there dying. Or, something not so drastic as that, say you got stabbed and couldn't get it out, again...forgot or didn't pay the fee and they decided to let you bleed.
 
What I am feeling is this society is out of touch with it's humanity. Shame on the greedy.
 
it wasnt some big corporate decision---really, it was a policy that has been in effect for 20 years and this family decided not to pay or just by chance forgot to pay, the world need to wake up there are 3 things I am entitled to : stay the color i was born, enjoy the relationship i have with the lord, and death any more than that is my responsibilty, not your and not anyone else. hey i think i going down to the gas station and bitch cause they didnt give my gas instead of me paying for it. whatever..
ya we arent talking about free gas
 
Just goes to show you can't always get help without paying but, you can get sh*t on for free.
I must be missing something because no matter how many different reports on this story I see, I just can't understand having the power to help someone and don't because of some policy. Americans...yeah right. :roll:
 
Simply put RusT...."Money Talks then Morals Walk".

I'm not sure what's more disgusting with this whole situation, the fact that this was allowed to happen, that they haven't figured out something smarter than this in the past 20 years that would help prevent this kind of situation, or that there are people that would rather let the mother burn and then say it's ok since he lacked 1 whole stinking payment while claiming some kind of moral high ground for this kind of money grubbing, anti-social attitude they bear:evil:
 
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Simply put RusT...."Money Talks then Morals Walk".

I'm not sure what's more disgusting with this whole situation, the fact that this was allowed to happen, that they have figured out something smarter than this in the past 20 years that would help prevent this kind of situation, or that there are people that would rather let the mother burn and then say it's ok since he lacked 1 whole stinking payment while claiming some kind of moral high ground for this kind of money grubbing, anti-social attitude they bear:evil:
very well said..glad to see there still some humans among us
 
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