fire dept in tenn lets house burn down cuz ownwer forgot to pay $75 annual fee

[EvilTwin v2]

well then shouldnt something else be done then..levy yia property tax..etc..not that hard to do..up here we all pay through our property taxes and such..NO one is denied service

That would have to be handled at the county or state level. This was a city fire department that was asked to provide services outside of their tax base area. They cannot legally tax there because they have no jurisdiction over the area. They did however, offer as a fee ($75 per year) protection to households just outside of town.

These people not only "forgot" to pay this year, but also refused to pay the previous year.

As for attaching leins, or whatever, they might not be able to legally do that due to these people living outside of their jurisdiction.

I'd also bet that there's more to this story. You'd just have to live in the town to know it.

If you're looking for somebody to blame, why not look toward the county or state for not providing some sort of fire protection to the people in their jurisdiction?

 

[Mr.Slave]

what ever happened to paying your bills on time:roll:

You DON'T pay your bills you DON'T get service

is this to fukn hard to understand?

They new that they had to pay, and they didn't. then when they are up chit creek they all of the sudden have more $ than what they had to pay when it was due

are you a christian?
dont forget what your good book says

 

[EvilTwin v2]

are you a christian?
dont forget what your good book says

Matthew 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:

Proverbs 20:4 The sluggard will not plow by reason of the cold; therefore shall he beg in harvest, and have nothing.

Proverbs 12:27 The slothful man roasteth not that which he took in hunting: but the substance of a diligent man is precious.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Money = root of all evil. "thumbsup"

 

[Mr.Slave]

way to miss the point

 

[T-buck]

The F.D. there should remove the word "Volunteer" seems like they don't know what it means.

 

[T-buck]

Matthew 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:

Proverbs 20:4 The sluggard will not plow by reason of the cold; therefore shall he beg in harvest, and have nothing.

Proverbs 12:27 The slothful man roasteth not that which he took in hunting: but the substance of a diligent man is precious.

Say hi to the Easter Bunny & Santa for me. "thumbsup"

 

[Creepy Inc.]

i guess when y,all came over on the mayflower it was all about personal responsability :roll:and not helpin each other out when nesasarry for the good of the whole community,..imo alot of you have lost sight..maybee never had it..all about me and mine:roll:..fawk the indians even helped you as you were figureing out how take thier land..what suckers they were

I don't who you the **** you think you are to call The Native American suckers you pieces of shit and if I'm not mistaken your Country has be owned it's self.

I read throw a alot of this thread and I must say as a Firefighter and EMT there are rules to be followed and we don't make them. If that crew had gone in to that house and "risk there life" to help those jackass's who thought they didn't need to pay (NOT FORGET BUT JUST DIDDNT PAY) the $75 fee and, Any of those Firefighters would have lost there life trying to save these ****ers pets would you step up and pay there life Ins, Etc? Cause sure as hell the State would deny to them do to them not obeying there commands. (don't forget it's there job. There not ****ing super hero's) It all so doesn't matter if the Chief was just next door jacking off, He has a boss as well that tell him what do. If you want to blame anyone point the finger at the piece of shit politicians and Ins Co's.

P.S. If you don't want your house to burn down then pay the ****ing fee If you don't have car Ins and get in a wreck you don't blame the world for not paying for it.:roll:

 

[EvilTwin v2]

I just watched an interview that Gene Cranick did with Keith Olberman. Olberman asked if the fire department ever made an exception. Cranick answered that yes. Three years ago this December, they had a fire "up here in my boy's house." The fire department waived the fee til the next day, and responded to the call.

In another interview, Cranick said that he didn't pay the fee, but thought that they'd come out for him anyway.

Sounds like a fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, scenerio going on.

He had already abused the system once before, 3 years ago, and they gave in to him, and allowed him to pay the $75 after the fact. The next year rolled around, and he didnt' pay once again. Looks like the only lesson he learned was that he could take advantage of people. He had not forgotten to pay. He refused to pay...2 more years in a row, expecting they would just repeat what they'd done before and if he ever really needed it, that he could just pay later. Well, guess what, they must have remembered.

Like I said in another post; unless you know the full story, you really can't effectively judge what's going on here.

 

[vonclod]

I don't who you the **** you think you are to call The Native American suckers you pieces of shit and if I'm not mistaken your Country has be owned it's self.


P.

ooo name calling now..1st off you go fawk yourself, i,m part native "thumbsup"and wasnt trying to disrespect natives..i,m merley pointing out a fact that they
got royally screwed..maybee i worded it wrong...and if you read my post i said it was FAR from perfect here..i see y,all are now ignoring the money thing..if it was about money they would of put the fire out and billed them a much larger amount than the 75..then they could buy some better gear several posters in this thread have stated thats how its done in thier county/town so it doable..my whole point is deal with the issue and sort it out when the smoke clears..and ya the state or fed you would think could run things better so this kinda shit dont happen..now this family will be a drain on the whole community..i,m not defending there irresponsability..and y,all are still ignoring the fact that the other house caught fire because of nothing being done..so now 1 1/2 burnt houses instead of 1/2 a burnt house..its a huge lose lose for all involved

 

[EvilTwin v2]

ooo name calling now..1st off you go fawk yourself, i,m part native "thumbsup"and wasnt trying to disrespect natives..i,m merley pointing out a fact that they
got royally screwed..maybee i worded it wrong...and if you read my post i said it was FAR from perfect here..i see y,all are now ignoring the money thing..if it was about money they would of put the fire out and billed them a much larger amount than the 75..then they could buy some better gear several posters in this thread have stated thats how its done in thier county/town so it doable..my whole point is deal with the issue and sort it out when the smoke clears..and ya the state or fed you would think could run things better so this kinda shit dont happen..now this family will be a drain on the whole community..i,m not defending there irresponsability..and y,all are still ignoring the fact that the other house caught fire because of nothing being done..so now 1 1/2 burnt houses instead of 1/2 a burnt house..its a huge lose lose for all involved

It's a shame about the neighbor's house. That part sucks.

However, did you read my post? He'd had a fire 3 years before, in which the town let him get away with paying the fee the next day. Then, he didn't pay again, thinking they'd just let him get away with paying after the fact again. He got caught trying to take advantage of the system.

You'd have thought that he'd have learned and kept his payments up, but the only thing he learned was that he could take advantage of peoples' kindness.

 

[RusT808]

It's a shame about the neighbor's house. That part sucks.

However, did you read my post? He'd had a fire 3 years before, in which the town let him get away with paying the fee the next day. Then, he didn't pay again, thinking they'd just let him get away with paying after the fact again. He got caught trying to take advantage of the system.

You'd have thought that he'd have learned and kept his payments up, but the only thing he learned was that he could take advantage of peoples' kindness.

That is a report I didn't see. Even after he had a fire he never up kept his payments, that is sad and risky to gamble with his whole family's well being for $75. What a horrible lesson for his family to live thru. Still upset about the firefighters not helping but, people are people.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Still upset about the firefighters not helping but, people are people.

How many times would you help someone who refuses to pay for you to do so?

 

[LR3]

I personally think that letting the pets and other important posessions burn with the house was a bit extream, but he got what was coming to him. He didn't keep up with payments, so the service that he was neglecting was not givin. The neighbors house caught fire, and they kept up with the payments, so they got the service. Its simple, pay your bills and it will all work out."thumbsup"

 

[EvilTwin v2]

I personally think that letting the pets and other important posessions burn with the house was a bit extream, but he got what was coming to him. He didn't keep up with payments, so the service that he was neglecting was not givin. The neighbors house caught fire, and they kept up with the payments, so they got the service. Its simple, pay your bills and it will all work out."thumbsup"

The thing about the pets is that the guy also admitted to trying to put out the fire himself and didn't call for help until after the blaze was out of control.

A mobile home can be totally engulfed in flames within 5 to 7 minutes from the time when the fire cannot be controlled with a hose. Regardless whether the fire department had responded to the call, there's still a very good chance that the pets would have still been lost. The only way for them to have been saved is if the home owner had tried to save them immediately before the fire got too big.

The homeowner also claimed that he knew of 3 or 4 other fires in which the fees had not been paid and they didn't respond. Sounds like he know what he was in for and still chose not to pay.

Here's the Keith Olberman interview. Now listen closely, because Keith, instead of reporting the story, tries to spin it in favor of the home owner. However, listen closely to what the guys is really saying. Having listened to and read a few different interviews, it's not hard to put it all together. The guy actually shot himself in the foot by talking too much. He's a schmuck and he got burned for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71f6B0AqZAU</EMBED>

 

[jeepcj578]

I read throw a alot of this thread and I must say as a Firefighter and EMT there are rules to be followed and we don't make them. If that crew had gone in to that house and "risk there life" to help those jackass's who thought they didn't need to pay (NOT FORGET BUT JUST DIDDNT PAY) the $75 fee and, Any of those Firefighters would have lost there life trying to save these ****ers pets would you step up and pay there life Ins, Etc? Cause sure as hell the State would deny to them do to them not obeying there commands. (don't forget it's there job. There not ****ing super hero's) It all so doesn't matter if the Chief was just next door jacking off, He has a boss as well that tell him what do. If you want to blame anyone point the finger at the piece of shit politicians and Ins Co's.

P.S. If you don't want your house to burn down then pay the ****ing fee If you don't have car Ins and get in a wreck you don't blame the world for not paying for it.:roll:

thank you much that is what i was saying in post 39 but all these people just want to bitch and cry, oooohhh they didn't help that person they should all be fired.

people in this country and this world just need to grow some fukn ball of responsibility.

what really makes me mad is they will cry and such to all who will listen,
next month there will prob be some sort of charity drive or such and one of these frigen reality shows will fell sorry for them and prob come build them a house thats 30 times bigger then the trailer that burned down.
all because they first didn't pay the "tax" that was due,
and because they didn't pay there "tax" the is. comp if they have any prob wont cover it.

 

[Creepy Inc.]

ooo name calling now..1st off you go fawk yourself, i,m part native "thumbsup"and wasnt trying to disrespect natives..i,m merley pointing out a fact that they
got royally screwed..maybee i worded it wrong...and if you read my post i said it was FAR from perfect here..i see y,all are now ignoring the money thing..if it was about money they would of put the fire out and billed them a much larger amount than the 75..then they could buy some better gear several posters in this thread have stated thats how its done in thier county/town so it doable..my whole point is deal with the issue and sort it out when the smoke clears..and ya the state or fed you would think could run things better so this kinda shit dont happen..now this family will be a drain on the whole community..i,m not defending there irresponsability..and y,all are still ignoring the fact that the other house caught fire because of nothing being done..so now 1 1/2 burnt houses instead of 1/2 a burnt house..its a huge lose lose for all involved

Yes you did word it wrong and, That's my bad. Your still a Jack hole for thinking the way you do. Run your ass in to a burning house and see if you feel diff then.

However, did you read my post? He'd had a fire 3 years before, in which the town let him get away with paying the fee the next day. Then, he didn't pay again.

 

[EvilTwin v2]

Did anybody see where Gene Cranick's younger son, Timothy is up on Aggrevated Assault charges for busting into the fire house and beating up the Fire Chief?

So, how do all you bleeding heart types feel about that one?

 

[T-buck]

Did anybody see where Gene Cranick's younger son, Timothy is up on Aggrevated Assault charges for busting into the fire house and beating up the Fire Chief?

So, how do all you bleeding heart types feel about that one?

A little better. "thumbsup"

 

[Offroader5]

I've never stopped on the side of the road to help anyone broke down...or stopped to give aid in a car accident situation...unless of course I thought I'd get some money out of it.

Don't think it's right for me to do that kind of stuff without some sort of compensation.

:roll: