Broken gears before I even made it outside to try out my XR10

[ThinkTank]

Sure we can all fix our trucks and live in a happy world, but its the people thate are not prepared or capable of performing the necessary modifications needed to keep their trucks going.

And to have people come on here telling the new guys to quit bitching and to suck it up is no way to help the hobby grow. The new guys are helping fund this hobby, just as us more experienced members are.

What they fail to understand is crawling is newer compared to the other R/C hobbies. Unless you spend 1K+ you cannot have an near indestructible machine. Mass produced crawlers ARE NOT at the same level as 1/8 buggies you buy at the LHS and jump a football goal the same day.

 

[EeePee]

Mass produced crawlers ARE NOT at the same level as 1/8 buggies you buy at the LHS and jump a football goal the same day.

What kind of motors and pinion gears should I run in my XR-10 to make that happen?

 

[ThinkTank]

What kind of motors and pinion gears should I run in my XR-10 to make that happen?

Tekin T8 1700kv/ 12T

 

[jcboof]

What kind of motors and pinion gears should I run in my XR-10 to make that happen?

I heard on the forum here that 55 turn integys will do that. But you have to run a 12t pinion in the rear and a 13 up front or else it will stall real real bad.:lmao:

 

[TEDROCKZ]

I just wouldn't expect them to acknowledge anything on a messageboard just like a major automobile company would not. ;-) I would contact them.

But they pimped the hell out of it on a message board!

A "We are aware of it and working on this problem" from Axial would silence 99% of the whiners. The other 1%, no hope for......

 

[jcboof]

What they fail to understand is crawling is newer compared to the other R/C hobbies. Unless you spend 1K+ you cannot have an near indestructible machine. Mass produced crawlers ARE NOT at the same level as 1/8 buggies you buy at the LHS and jump a football goal the same day.

Very true, My thoughts exactly on that. But to have a gear set self destruct within minutes of putting it together, Just driving it like it was intended to be driven. That my friend is what these "bitchers and whiners" are complaining about.

 

[ThinkTank]

Very true, My thoughts exactly on that. But to have a gear set self destruct within minutes of putting it together, Just driving it like it was intended to be driven. That my friend is what these "bitchers and whiners" are complaining about.

The issue was already addressed by another company. What's the need to complain?

 

[jcboof]

The issue was already addressed by another company. What's the need to complain?

You just don't get it...... Once you grow up and get into the real world where your money has to work for you, You'll understand finally. I really wished you wouldn't have edited your post just now too......

To answer what you deleted,
YES, I do think that they should consider revising the part. No I don't think that they should have to come out and apologize for doing it wrong the first time, But the could at least make a statement about how they will look into the problem and see what they can do about it.

I think that would go farther for them then just letting it die.

 

[losichris]

Mine broke first 3 minute of driving!!!! I talked to axial got new parts did the 9mm mod and the crawler is solid!!! If you cant fix your crawler or come on here to bitch everyday than this isnt the hobby for you!!!!!

 

[ThinkTank]

You just don't get it...... Once you grow up and get into the real world where your money has to work for you, You'll understand finally. I really wished you wouldn't have edited your post just now too......

To answer what you deleted,
YES, I do think that they should consider revising the part. No I don't think that they should have to come out and apologize for doing it wrong the first time, But the could at least make a statement about how they will look into the problem and see what they can do about it.

I think that would go farther for them then just letting it die.

You think Axial hasn't realized or learned from their mistake? Are you from a small town or something? Companies don't admit their mistakes, they solve them. Losi doesn't release a statement every time there is a flaw. They fix it for later models. I'm sure Axial is going to make a RTR XR10 eventually.

 

[jcboof]

You think Axial hasn't realized or learned from their mistake? Are you from a small town or something? Companies don't admit their mistakes, they solve them. Losi doesn't release a statement every time there is a flaw. They fix it for later models. I'm sure Axial is going to make a RTR XR10 eventually.

Losi addressed their problems right away, they admitted them, and offered revised parts to solve the problem. Hell, I heard they even let some people send them their trucks and Rich fixed some of them personally!!

But they pimped the hell out of it on a message board!

A "We are aware of it and working on this problem" from Axial would silence 99% of the whiners. The other 1%, no hope for......

X10000000000 This is exactly what I've been trying to say. This is the acknowledgment that is needed to remedy the situation. Rather than having unhappy customers and all this whining on the boards, and me trying to defend the people who are upset....

Axial will likely start a thread or something or have some type of announcement when the problem is being worked on. I just cannot imagine that they will not remedy this. But until then, there will be whiners and bitchers.

 

[ThinkTank]

Losi addressed their problems right away, they admitted them, and offered revised parts to solve the problem. Hell, I heard they even let some people send them their trucks and Rich fixed some of them personally!!

Not for some of their other trucks, I speak from personal experience. What Axial isn't fast enough for you? They'll fix it in due time. Replacement gears and the 9mm mod seem to more effective (read faster) than a butt kissing statement designed to warm the ego.

Edit: I take that back, I can see how a butt kissing statement would solve the problems rather than customer service and simple modifications.

 

[Rebelspawn]

Here is my two cents:

First, everyone on here complaining about the "whiners", look in the mirror. Grow up and let people express their opinion. All you are doing is feeding the fires and whining about the whining.

Second. I was just about to buy the kit when I have decided I am probably going to wait until spring. Because of bearing and stuff? no. Does the bearings have a part in me not buying it right now yes but it is mostly because winter is upon me and I don't need it sitting on a shelf. I guess I could buy one and start on all the repairs the truck need to be ready to roll first thing in the spring, i just think i will wait. Hell maybe axial will fix it, maybe not I don't care. I will buy one in the spring regardless.

Third, I love to work on these trucks. If you don't you wont be here long. I find it relaxing to go in the shop, get ready for a repair, upgrade whatever and get to it. I have been in Rc since 80-81 something like that. I will never leave just too much fun.

So lets all calm down, let the people who want to talk about the xr10 issues do what they will. Lets just keep it in one thread or so please. I personally have searched many times about the xr10 bearing and 6 threads i found right off were people upset.

Thank you and good night
"thumbsup"

Reb

 

[freetimecrawler]

Good thing too, because if it was like it used to be when you had to build your own rig, there would still only be 15 of you sitting around playing with yourself. The ease of the hobby is whats attracting people to it.. A cheap "competition ready kit" will attract even more..."thumbsup"

I wish it still was the good ol days when you had to piece together a crawler. I think it was a lot more fun. To me, the RTR crowd has taken the fun out of crawling.
And BTW, it was more like 5000 of us "playing with ourselfs"
Attracting more has both good and bad points, more bad then good IMO.

 

[dragrcr]

What the he'll are you guys wanting from axial? The damn thing will break gears, there is a cheap way to fix it, it sucks but that's the way it is, bitching and moaning won't change it, in the time you have spent here bitching you could have fixed the Fing thing.

 

[BFGcrawler418]

I love how all of you think that just because this XR10 kit sells for less than 300 dollars that Axial should not be responsible for fixing the issue with the bearings & gears. What most of you don't realize is that Axial is still making a pretty good profit off of this 300 dollar kit, besides the kit itself they are also making profit off of the aftermarket parts they have available like machined links, bent links, machined gears, etc. Axial would not be in business today if they were not making a decent profit on kits & parts.

Some of you say that engineering time is too expensive & would put axial out of business because this is only a 300 dollar kit. Well just think of how much money has already been wasted on shipping expenses for sending out replacement gears & bearings, besides that you have to account for packaging supplies, cost of the replacement parts & all the time Axial employees have wasted on this matter........This wasted money could have been put into some engineering time for a permanent fix

I knew right up front that I would more than likely need to do the 9MM bearing mod to mine just because I am tough on stuff and want something that is durable but it would suck to be a young kid who does not have as much mechanical experience as some of us on here. The 9MM bearing mod was simple to do and pretty cheap but I don't think it should be neccesary for a competition level kit.

 

[Fattymojo]

I wish it still was the good ol days when you had to piece together a crawler. I think it was a lot more fun. To me, the RTR crowd has taken the fun out of crawling.
And BTW, it was more like 5000 of us "playing with ourselfs"
Attracting more has both good and bad points, more bad then good IMO.

Yeah, progression of a hobby sucks. Damned all those fools profiting from selling products so we dont have to make our own!!!:roll:

 

[Bigend777str]

300 dollar kit

Well..... I don't know about you guys, but I only spent 240.00 for my XR10 shipped to my doorstep in 3 days.

So I guess since I got a good deal I shouldn't even be reading this thread. ;-)

Jared

 

[Turn'Nburn]

Well..... I don't know about you guys, but I only spent 240.00 for my XR10 shipped to my doorstep in 3 days.

So I guess since I got a good deal I shouldn't even be reading this thread. ;-)

Jared

Ordered through Tower Hobbies like i did.

$240.00 - XR10 kit (-$60 super saver club)
$50.00 - VP bushings (upgrading to VP motor plates & bearings when avail.)
total - $290.00......

My Tower order final total was $269.00 for the XR10 and new body scissors. Immediately after that I quickly spent another $300+ on other upgrades and such. My wallet hurts a little, but the whole bearing issue didn't make any difference in that fact. Plus, to build a Berg or Bully would have cost twice that, so it's still a bargain.

Bottom line.... buy the XR10, get the parts to fix it, enjoy an azz kicking rig.

 

[freetimecrawler]

Yeah, progression of a hobby sucks. Damned all those fools profiting from selling products so we dont have to make our own!!!:roll:

It's not the "profiting" that bothers me. Back when you had to "make your own" it was guys doing things by trial and error, trying many things to make their truck work better. Now any idiot with $250 can get a ready made crawler, and most complain when they have to do some modifications to make it work better. Basically it pussified the hobby of crawling.