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Cloaked spaceship around Mercury and a new Earth

TattooKenny said:
"We can travel at the speed of light if we can figure out how to stop and how to not hit anything along the way."
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Yeah, I read your original quote.....it's not the stopping or the hitting the stuff that is the problem, but the fact that we humans have a mass that is "slightly" larger than an electron that is holding us back. :lol:
 
gunnar said:
If the headline read "Giant penis-shaped object spotted near Uranus" it would be much funnier.


I think we will discover many Earth-like planets, and when we get to them, we'll fawk them up too...
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Lol....and sadly probably correct. :)

OP that is some interesting chit! "thumbsup" Fascinating whatever it is.
 
JeremyH said:
Yeah, I read your original quote.....it's not the stopping or the hitting the stuff that is the problem, but the fact that we humans have a mass that is "slightly" larger than an electron that is holding us back. :lol:
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In a vacuum that shouldnt matter should it?
 
JeremyH said:
I love the "conclusion"....:lol:


Uhh.....the theory of relativity applies in a vacuum as well..."thumbsup"
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Humans, from what I can see of Einstein's relativity, can only infinitely accelerate closer to the speed of light. So mabey close to it then? According to Einstien, its impossible to achieve a velocity over that of the speed of light as the objects mass would need to be over infinite. So far his theory hasn't been disproven or proven 100% but its currently accepted in science. Untill someone accelerates a particle to over the speed of light then we have to assume Einstien is correct. My brain is starting to hurt Jeremy!!!:ror:
 
TattooKenny said:
Humans, from what I can see of Einstein's relativity, can only infinitely accelerate closer to the speed of light. So mabey close to it then?
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That is correct. As you decrease the mass of an object, it's ability to speed up gets better. Even a single electron require a SHITLOAD of energy to be accelerated upward of the speed of light. It's a simple calculation....you should give it a go. BTW, the mass of an electron is 9.11x10^-31 Kg. One human weighs about 70Kg. "thumbsup"

BTW, those CERN guys recently claim to have accelerated a neutrino (MUCH smaller than an electron and VERY difficult to detect) faster than the speed of light. Due to the level of difficulty in detecting neutrinos, I am waiting for them to debunk that experiment rather quickly...

TattooKenny said:
My brain is starting to hurt Jeremy!!!
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Tell me about it. You should see me when I am studying this stuff for one of my regular work related exams....
 
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JeremyH said:
That is correct. As you decrease the mass of an object, it's ability to speed up gets better. Even a single electron require a SHITLOAD of energy to be accelerated upward of the speed of light. It's a simple calculation....you should give it a go. BTW, the mass of an electron is 9.11x10^-31 Kg. One human weighs about 70Kg. "thumbsup"

BTW, those CERN guys recently claim to have accelerated a neutrino (MUCH smaller than an electron and VERY difficult to detect) faster than the speed of light. Due to the level of difficulty in detecting neutrinos, I am waiting for them to debunk that experiment rather quickly...


Tell me about it. You should see me when I am studying this stuff for one of my regular work related exams....
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hmm ya thats the last i heard was that the barrier may have been broken?
now given enough fuel over time why couldnt we achieve light speed as my understanding is there is no slowing down in space so as long as there is thrust there will be acceleration..i understand the time it would take might be more than a lifespan but should be possable?
 
IMO we need to stop this speed of light business and concentrate on folding space. That'll circumvent the Theory of Relativity entirely...
 
Duuuuuuuude said:
IMO we need to stop this speed of light business and concentrate on folding space. That'll circumvent the Theory of Relativity entirely...
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I've been studying that also!:ror: In theory if you can go fast enough you can make space fold in on itself. Like a spiral. You would get pulled in from the pull and come out on the other side. Well, that's the very simple way of saying it anyways!:ror:

And Jeremy, I'll work on the math this week and let you know what I come up with. I'm going to buy a new SA calculator just so I can work on some of this stuff on my own. A normal calculator just won't cut it!:ror: Though I did find that my iPhone will handle X16 so far!:shock:
 
TattooKenny said:
And Jeremy, I'll work on the math this week and let you know what I come up with. I'm going to buy a new SA calculator just so I can work on some of this stuff on my own. A normal calculator just won't cut it!:ror: Though I did find that my iPhone will handle X16 so far!:shock:
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Nah...you can do it with a simple calculator. When I take my exams, the only one I get to use is the Windows calculator...."thumbsup"
 
vonclod said:
hmm ya thats the last i heard was that the barrier may have been broken?
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Yeah, that is what they claim. However, they used a particle called a neutrino that has VERY little mass and is extremely difficult to detect....which makes their experiment questionable.
 
JeremyH said:
That is correct. As you decrease the mass of an object, it's ability to speed up gets better. Even a single electron require a SHITLOAD of energy to be accelerated upward of the speed of light. It's a simple calculation....you should give it a go. BTW, the mass of an electron is 9.11x10^-31 Kg. One human weighs about 70Kg. "thumbsup"

BTW, those CERN guys recently claim to have accelerated a neutrino (MUCH smaller than an electron and VERY difficult to detect) faster than the speed of light. Due to the level of difficulty in detecting neutrinos, I am waiting for them to debunk that experiment rather quickly...


Tell me about it. You should see me when I am studying this stuff for one of my regular work related exams....
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that neutrino didn't break the speed of light , it moved inner-dimensionally
 
Frank3 said:
that neutrino didn't break the speed of light , it moved inner-dimensionally
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You say "tomato", I say "potato".

I am still expecting them to debunk that experiment. If they want to get it right, then they need to use a particle that has a high probability of being detected.....
 
rock hard said:
instead of focusing so much energy on traveling the speed of light, some focus should be spent on traveling long distances BY light.
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Wouldnt you still be traveling at the speed of light? Photons (light particles) all travel at about the same speed.
 
JeremyH said:
Wouldnt you still be traveling at the speed of light? Photons (light particles) all travel at about the same speed.
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Not actually, of the light carried the particals, that doesnt mean those particals are traveling as fast as the light.

Simulare to a object traveling soley by the current of a river, its not always traveling as fast as the water thats is pushing it. The "push" needed varies depending on the object and its shape. But that just an edjucated guess with my back woods, red neck comon sense.
 
rock hard said:
Not actually, of the light carried the particals, that doesnt mean those particals are traveling as fast as the light.

Simulare to a object traveling soley by the current of a river, its not always traveling as fast as the water thats is pushing it. The "push" needed varies depending on the object and its shape. But that just an edjucated guess with my back woods, red neck comon sense.
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Quantum particles dont act in the same manner as classical mechanics."thumbsup"
 
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