RANOVRU
Quarry Creeper
Not unless Im the cock and my gfs the chicken.
Wait what?....?....???...?..
I think this is bollocks.
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Chick-Fil-A
- Thread starter RANOVRU
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Not unless Im the cock and my gfs the chicken.
Wait what?....?....???...?..
I think this is bollocks.
C*H*U*D
No idea what I'm doing
The best crawling rocks in Longmont are at Chick-Fil-A...I go there a lot.
To crawl, not to eat...I don't eat fast food.
Still the best rocks in Longmont "thumbsup"
What's this all about again??
To crawl, not to eat...I don't eat fast food.
Still the best rocks in Longmont "thumbsup"
What's this all about again??
RiceBurner
Quarry Creeper
This ENTIRE country/world has a problem with putting personal belief's, agenda's, vendetta's before right and wrong.
right and wrong have many shades of gray from person to person. combine that with the fact that many people will blindly believe in an idea or cause, and you've gotten to the human existence. when your moral compass is totally guided by someone else, you take that as your right and wrong indicator.
good example, i believe and am taught to believe my whole life that there is no other fruit than an apple. that's it, all i've seen. i leave the place i've grown, and see oranges, mangos, bananas, etc. to me, these are still apples. when someone tells me they are not, i retreat into the run-around about belief that we've all heard from many people.
now apply this to the united states, a country that is predominantly christian. we have people here that believe the word of the bible and nothing else. if the bible says its right, its right, wrong, its a hellish thing against humanity. there are no changing any of their views, they are told since birth that the bible is in all ways correct and moral. this puts their moral compass far from where a less devote christian, jewish, muslim, etc. would have theirs. not to be picking on Christianity by any means, i'm christian myself, and all religions have these hardline people, just the best example i could pull right now for the sake of this discussion.
now due to the highly christian population of this country, it is inevitable for a christian person to end up head of a company. now the basis of this company is to provide food to customers, becomes a big deal, and makes money, that's great good old american dreaming right there. thing is, the chairman, owner, whatever, doesn't like a certain group of people at all, says it and fires all the other people up in the country that are looking for a cause to stand behind or against. seen this many times, the whole "pink slime" thing comes to mind first.
the question here is, why are the people associated with the cause for/against the chairman's statement going after the franchise chains? the franchise chains could honestly give a shit about the chairman, he's on the very highest management hierarchy, the chains are the lowest of the low in most cases.
i bet you that the person at CFA that lit this match is sitting back and laughing. he is morally right in his mind, so any fighting is just useless, and any praise is an ego stroker.
boils down to: right and wrong vary from person to person.
good example, i believe and am taught to believe my whole life that there is no other fruit than an apple. that's it, all i've seen. i leave the place i've grown, and see oranges, mangos, bananas, etc. to me, these are still apples. when someone tells me they are not, i retreat into the run-around about belief that we've all heard from many people.
now apply this to the united states, a country that is predominantly christian. we have people here that believe the word of the bible and nothing else. if the bible says its right, its right, wrong, its a hellish thing against humanity. there are no changing any of their views, they are told since birth that the bible is in all ways correct and moral. this puts their moral compass far from where a less devote christian, jewish, muslim, etc. would have theirs. not to be picking on Christianity by any means, i'm christian myself, and all religions have these hardline people, just the best example i could pull right now for the sake of this discussion.
now due to the highly christian population of this country, it is inevitable for a christian person to end up head of a company. now the basis of this company is to provide food to customers, becomes a big deal, and makes money, that's great good old american dreaming right there. thing is, the chairman, owner, whatever, doesn't like a certain group of people at all, says it and fires all the other people up in the country that are looking for a cause to stand behind or against. seen this many times, the whole "pink slime" thing comes to mind first.
the question here is, why are the people associated with the cause for/against the chairman's statement going after the franchise chains? the franchise chains could honestly give a shit about the chairman, he's on the very highest management hierarchy, the chains are the lowest of the low in most cases.
i bet you that the person at CFA that lit this match is sitting back and laughing. he is morally right in his mind, so any fighting is just useless, and any praise is an ego stroker.
boils down to: right and wrong vary from person to person.
Literacy? You need to have an opinion and not a feeling to write a letter! "thumbsup"
I'm pretty sure the deal with CFA is a bunch of hippy liberals who don't want some portion of the profits reaped from their patronizing CFA funding anti gay rights campaigns. This is about voting with one's feet, not infringing upon CFA's right to do or say whatever the **** it wants. "thumbsup"
See above post. :mrgreen:
C*H*U*D
No idea what I'm doing
I have no tattoos...
I've never been put down for not having tattoos.
I have no piercings..
I've never been put down for not having piercings.
I'm not black...
I've never been put down for not being black.
I'm not Jewish...
I've never been put down for not being Jewish.
I'm not Gay...
I've never been put down for not being Gay.
All the haters seem to be on my side of the fence.
And it's getting old.
I've never been put down for not having tattoos.
I have no piercings..
I've never been put down for not having piercings.
I'm not black...
I've never been put down for not being black.
I'm not Jewish...
I've never been put down for not being Jewish.
I'm not Gay...
I've never been put down for not being Gay.
All the haters seem to be on my side of the fence.
And it's getting old.
All of that is a matter of geography, nothing more.
C*H*U*D
No idea what I'm doing
The internet has no geography, and that's where most hate now comes from.
to opek: i have to agree with the far left latching onto this like a leech....the far left has always "fought" for causes, but they always seem to screw it up. the gay rights campaign...this shouldn't be about one guy shooting his mouth off, it should be about the matter of if i want to marry the guy next to me. every time there is some sort of headway, something pops up and a whole shitstorm gets out about a subject that ultimately has little to do with the actual movement. chik-fil-a may send anti-gay organizations money. does this bug me, yes, does it make me want to go and protest a local chain....there's no damn point to. i'll go eat somewhere else, or just make my own food in my kitchen. this has been a boon for CFA in the very anti-gay areas, not eating there and not giving them money if a far more effective message than a picket sign.
something that does do something in the end is sending our elected officials letters, emails, tweets even about what we as their constituency want out of them. if they screw the pooch and don't deliver, boot em on the next election. the thing that bugs me so much about the government as it stands is almost everything is straight party line voting (this goes both ways, democrats and republicans both do it). party line voting ignores the issues entirely, but the government (state and national) have the power. they can make or erase laws, and when its nothing but party line voting....it all goes a bit sideways.
something that does do something in the end is sending our elected officials letters, emails, tweets even about what we as their constituency want out of them. if they screw the pooch and don't deliver, boot em on the next election. the thing that bugs me so much about the government as it stands is almost everything is straight party line voting (this goes both ways, democrats and republicans both do it). party line voting ignores the issues entirely, but the government (state and national) have the power. they can make or erase laws, and when its nothing but party line voting....it all goes a bit sideways.
Yes and no. It spans the globe, but it is comprised of people from their own locations and views and beliefs. Attitudes and feelings don't change on the web, but inhibitions do. If someone on the web says they hate something, its not the internet that made them say that, it is the buffer zone with reality that gives them the ability to vocalize what they might not normally say in the real world.
What "my side of the fence" is it that you refer to?
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C*H*U*D
No idea what I'm doing
The side of "Right and Wrong".
As we move through this thing we call life, we are bombarded with views on "This is right"..."That is wrong". It seems I am always on the strong majority of "this is right", whether I belong there or not.
"We are white"
"We are Catholic"
"We are straight"
"Blah, blah, blah"
Just because I am all of the above, does not mean I am not open to a much broader sense of understanding.
SINister
RCC Addict
I've never heard anyone complain about being white before:lmao:
Phhhhht. Catholic? That's like Christianity Light. :ror:
(fwiw: I'm Catholic by marriage & my wifes late father was an ex-preist)
But yeah, there is a lot of nastiness coming from "our" group. Typically that is a sign of desperation. Nobody gets belligerent when they are happy and doing well.
I don't think he's complaining about being white, just the shitty people he's being lumped in with.
C*H*U*D
No idea what I'm doing
Exactly my point.
I've got a friend that shares a lot of my interests and views. We get along very well, have some good discussions, and have a great mutual respect for each other. He is also a born-again who thinks that America is in a drought because of our growing tolerance and acceptance of gay people.
edit: now that I think about it, pretty much every natural disaster I can think of that has happened since I've known him he has laid the blame squarely on the shoulders of the gays. God's wrath and all....blows my mind every time he says it. Like being slapped on the back of the head....
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ohh EPiC FAiL
Quarry Creeper
the guy is entitled to his opinions and nobody is denying that, but if he comes out and publicly states his opinion he has opened himself up to criticism. also, since capitalism is in effect, he has opened himself up to the negative and positive things that can happen. yeah there's a lot of people eating there to "support" them, but it WILL fade back down and i'm sure many people, myself included, will never spend another penny there. i have the right to spend my money where i wish, and i don't wish to support a company that publicly ostracizes anyone, especially for something that is so far from relevant to themselves. if you're not gay, it's simple: DON'T MARRY THE SAME SEX. i for one am sick of same sex marriage even being a topic of discussion, the constitution says absolutely nothing about marriage(look it up "thumbsup"), this country was NOT founded by christians, and the only "reason" to oppose same sex marriage is religious affiliation. it's a very poor excuse to use to talk down on someone using their religion/bible to hide behind.
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C*H*U*D
No idea what I'm doing
This is what I'm talking about when I say "My side of the fence".
It sounds like he and I share many "core" values, but we would butt heads on my strongest...live and let live.
Do gays really have an impact on his life? If I have no tattoos, am I second class to those that do? Should I look down on those that believe in a different faith?
I've never been bombarded with any type of propaganda on how to live my life, but it seems the straight/white/Christians have no problem with sticking their noses in other people's lives.
It sounds like he and I share many "core" values, but we would butt heads on my strongest...live and let live.
Do gays really have an impact on his life? If I have no tattoos, am I second class to those that do? Should I look down on those that believe in a different faith?
I've never been bombarded with any type of propaganda on how to live my life, but it seems the straight/white/Christians have no problem with sticking their noses in other people's lives.