Opinions on Vp cvd's ?

[jthellfire911]

When has VP ever not made something right when there has been an issue. I know a couple of the guys are out of town for the week. Wait till you get an answer yea or no before you get so upset. I know it's frustrating to have a part fail and I'm not saying you don't have the right to be upset. Just direct it positively.

I understand, I'm more pissed because when the cup broke the pin came out, caught my c hub, and broke the axle case... I also found out why the knuckles would get stiff when I tightened down the c hubs... Either the shaft is or was machined wrong or something else, because I decided to slightly trim the plastic bearing surface on the inside of the axle case where the bearing sits inside the c hub area and then put it all back together and the binding went away. Was never a problem with the locker. So filing the ends that go into the locker wasn't the fix completely. It helped though... The thing that torques me is that this is my only rig, and now its useless till either I come up with another 100$ out of no where to buy new shafts or vp some how sends me out a new stub shaft without having to wait weeks sending mine in to have them inspect it, and send me out another one or have to but a new stub shaft... Either way the rigs down for a while... Not trying to be a biotch about this just really bent about the whole thing...

 

[team3six]

WD40?
Orange MiP slime or Gorilla Snawt for the joints and my Rocklube for the gears boss.

I ran the VPs in the TTC and didnt have an issue. But I ran full VP cases, knuckles and C's

So 4S and a 13.5 with what gears and other stuff?
All the info they have, helps all of us find the tolerance issues and find ways to correct them. I love VP, and appreciate thier products, but forgive me when I say this but Super 300's are it!

 

[jthellfire911]

Yeah, i would just relax. VP are good people and Im sure They will make it right.
Im curious as to what knuckles, chubs, if your running tubes.
There are all kinds of varibles as to how this happened and parts will fail if there is a chink in the chain.

Problem with going fast is more parts break.

Axial high steer knuckles, and axial aluminum clockable c hubs. And beef toobs that were trimmed down the same way where the bearing inside the c hub sits to allow the knuckle to move freely.... So there have been a couple problems I've had with these since I bought them. I made sure the knuckles moved freely after installing the tubes before I ran the rig... I've done one comp with this rig since installing the vvds and maybe 10 min of playing around at work and home. Running a pro4 mmp on 3s... No where near as fast as Tuner's buggy, and only about 6.5 lb rig.

I tried to do the same thing Tuner did to drill out new holes and didn't work for me... "I'm not as experienced as Tuner with these kinds of mods with rc but have been in the auto industry for 7 years building high performance cars and motors in the 700-1200hp range so I'm not new to custom modding parts.

 

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

just really bent about the whole thing...

Out of curiosity, would you be whining to axial if it was a universal that broke?

I hav 2 issues with just one vvd out of the 2 pairs I bought. One stub shaft had a gouge on it & 1 barrel had a hitch in it. They sent me replacements asap without sending anything back. Top notch CS."thumbsup"

forgive me when I say this but Super 300's are it!

300HD's to be exact. But you'll pay twice as much.

 

[jthellfire911]

WD40?
Orange MiP slime or Gorilla Snawt for the joints and my Rocklube for the gears boss.

I ran the VPs in the TTC and didnt have an issue. But I ran full VP cases, knuckles and C's

So 4S and a 13.5 with what gears and other stuff?
All the info they have, helps all of us find the tolerance issues and find ways to correct them. I love VP, and appreciate thier products, but forgive me when I say this but Super 300's are it!

Idk of its just an issue with using axial c hubs and knuckles that is not allowing the inside vvd shaft to sit far enough out to where its not shoving the shaft into the stub cup and causing binding or not. I'm sure vp used their own axles, cases, c's and knuckles when designing the vvds... But if it is a brand tolerance then they can put on the side these are not compatible with axial knuckles, c hubs, and hot racing lockers...

 

[jthellfire911]

Out of curiosity, would you be whining to axial if it was a universal that broke?

If I paid 100$ for them and had problems out of the gate with them, sure would. I'll keep my mouth shut from here on out till I hear from vp. Sorry for the complaining...


Oh and don't get me wrong I love the vp parts I've had before... Just haven't really dealt with vp's cs before but there are other companies that I've had problems with before with dealing with cs.. so I'm just a little on sceptic with cs in general.

 

[team3six]

I see some of the problem here.
And to me it makes sense. If your gonna use these shafts then you probably should use the VP gear with it. The other issue is the tubes.
I know a lot of people that used to run tubes and most have quit using them.

See being in the go fast part of RC in the past you need to have a weak point. Your eliminating that weak point that is cheaper with a stiff tube bringing the weak point to the angle point.

Ya cant compare real 1:1 anything with RC. We are just replicating it to our best ability which is miles above what it used to be.

But I have built many trucks much like all the talented people like DTP, War Pig, SDS Customs, ect. Have done.
More power, More torque. More Torque, more flex. And sometimes more flexibility is good.

Eliminate it and be prepared to fix expensive parts.

By the way. Even the type of lockers and internal gears will make a differance.

Build your trucks to forgive rather trying to build a bulletproof tank.
Or pay lots of money to fix it.

 

[jthellfire911]

I see some of the problem here.
And to me it makes sense. If your gonna use these shafts then you probably should use the VP gear with it. The other issue is the tubes.
I know a lot of people that used to run tubes and most have quit using them.

See being in the go fast part of RC in the past you need to have a weak point. Your eliminating that weak point that is cheaper with a stiff tube bringing the weak point to the angle point.

Ya cant compare real 1:1 anything with RC. We are just replicating it to our best ability which is miles above what it used to be.

But I have built many trucks much like all the talented people like DTP, War Pig, SDS Customs, ect. Have done.
More power, More torque. More Torque, more flex. And sometimes more flexibility is good.

Eliminate it and be prepared to fix expensive parts.

By the way. Even the type of lockers and internal gears will make a differance.

Build your trucks to forgive rather trying to build a bulletproof tank.
Or pay lots of money to fix it.

I was having the binding problem before the tubes, not after, but I see what your saying. And as for the 1:1 comment, I was stating the experience in that area to show I'm not some incompetent kid or something. With the tubes I'm running the axle case can still break. Just helps keep it from breaking as easy.. I'm running plastic spur gear, hot racing locker with hd overdrive gears in the front.

 

[tuner]

I was running a 14/87 48 pitch with a 1600 4s mmp on smart sence. In this bit with ripsaws. 8lbs

 

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

If I paid 100$ for them and had problems out of the gate with them, sure would. I'll keep my mouth shut from here on out till I hear from vp. Sorry for the complaining...


Oh and don't get me wrong I love the vp parts I've had before... Just haven't really dealt with vp's cs before but there are other companies that I've had problems with before with dealing with cs.. so I'm just a little on sceptic with cs in general.

All I can really say is they stand behind their product. They replaced mine sight unseen, no questions asked.

 

[Highmark]

You can really hate on the VP guys (or anyone) to much for tolerances - it's just part of the game with aftermarket parts because different manufacturers build parts to different tolerance windows. Plus the stock axial stuff is just molded plastic - not exactly the most precise thing to build a product around.

If I had to guess I'd say the axial parts and vanquish stuff just didn't get along. I had almost the exact same issue with my super 300's in Vanquish cases (binding at the knuckle) - it wasn't anyones fault, just a fact of life. Sounds like you did the right thing in making sure there wasnt any binding.

As for the breakages, welcome to running brushless! :ror: I'm sure VP will get it sorted out.

 

[frdtrkguy]

Just for the sake of argument.. If a guy is running 20 volts, the baddest brushless he could find and sticky rock tires.. Is VP really responsible for the inevitable breakage?

 

[jthellfire911]

Well vp emailed me back, asked me to send a pic of the broken cup, and said when they come back in stock they will send me out a new one. Supprised at how awesome the cs is. Definitely gonna buy vp parts again!

 

[EGG]

ETA on Wraith VVDs?

 

[frdtrkguy]

ETA on Wraith VVDs?

Like these? ;-)

Vanquish Products Wraith VVD Heavy Duty Axle shafts

 

[binaryterror]

ETA on Berg VVD's?

 

[superduty03]

X2^

 

[roksloski]

ETA on Berg VVD's?

Where are they............????


HURRY...................

 

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

Exo vvd's ASAP! You can do it!!!!

 

[binaryterror]

ETA on Berg VVD's?

I guess this just falls on deaf ears...