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Yeah, axial failed because it can't compete in every single class that exists...
It really seems like a lot of sour grapes out there over this car.
It can't possibly excel at every possible niche.
If you think you can design something better I say go for it!
Until you make something better your criticism is just puerile.
 
Yeah, axial failed because it can't compete in every single class that exists...
It really seems like a lot of sour grapes out there over this car.
It can't possibly excel at every possible niche.
If you think you can design something better I say go for it!
Until you make something better your criticism is just puerile.

Your logic has no place here!!! In this thread of truth. :flipoff:;-)
 
Yeah, axial failed because it can't compete in every single class that exists...
It really seems like a lot of sour grapes out there over this car.
It can't possibly excel at every possible niche.
If you think you can design something better I say go for it!
Until you make something better your criticism is just puerile.


Everyone is entitled to there Own Opinions.

I stand by my comments.

1'' Narrower in the front arm setup and the 'Yeti' would have been Awesome.

The Crawler guys who wanted an IFS front end would have been happy.
The U4 guys could have just run a slightly wider offset wheel.

Everyone Wins.
 
Everyone is entitled to there Own Opinions.

I stand by my comments.

1'' Narrower in the front arm setup and the 'Yeti' would have been Awesome.

The Crawler guys who wanted an IFS front end would have been happy.
The U4 guys could have just run a slightly wider offset wheel.

Everyone Wins.

So all you need to do is design and manufacture an upgrade kit with narrower arms, front axles and links and you'll win.
 
Cool! I can't wait to see a single vehicle that will be seriously worthy of competition as a crawler and in u4 classes.
 
Hi guys, so is there any more info on the Yeti yet ?

I mentioned earlier today that on my local hobby shop, they list the new Yeti under the category of "crawler" but it seems this new Yeti is built more for speed. I'm really confused. I pre-ordered but am now wondering if I did the right thing.

I wanted a good crawler, brushless, doesn't seem Axial makes one, and I don't know what other brands to look at. Perhaps hobby shops are putting this new Yeti under the wrong category description if it's not a crawler. Doesn't a crawler mean a different gearing system, so lots more torque ( slower spinning wheels ) and less speed ?

I'm a newbie, so I really do understand it well at this point.
 
The Yeti is a hybrid, with independent front suspension, specifically double wishbones, and a solid-axle rear suspension. This makes it similar to many full-size trucks. It is modeled after some Ultra4 vehicles, and as such, it is intended as a compromise between crawling and high-speed handling. Most dedicated crawlers use solid axles front and rear, like the AX10, Wraith, and SCX10. That setup is similar to a full-sized Wrangler. A vehicle intended for high-speed handling would have independent suspension, preferably double wishbones or a 5-link setup at both ends. This is what you find on some production road cars and many full-scale road-racing cars. (Some production cars and production-based race cars use McPherson struts either in front or front and rear. That setup is an independent suspension, and it has packaging advantages, but the camber curve is inferior to what can be had with double-wishbones or multi-link designs.)

The Yeti transmission is set up for two speeds, but out of the box it only comes with the higher, longer gear. It can be fitted with lower gears and a servo for shifting, but you'll need a 3-channel radio for that. Of course, you could also change the gearing of the single gear that comes in the vehicle.

Note also that the Yeti comes with an open front differential. For pure crawling, you would want to locked/fixed that diff or get a vehicle that comes with a fixed diff, like the above-mentioned Axial products.

If you want something specific for crawling, then something with 2 solid axles will probably be more appropriate. Those mostly come with brushed motors (if RTR) or without motor and ESC (if a kit), so if you want to go brushless, you'll have to buy a BL motor and ESC separately.

That said, the Yeti looks like a good multi-purpose vehicle that could do both crawling and higher-speed stuff reasonably well, though not as well as vehicle specialized for either activity.
 
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Hi skeeler, hey thanks for that info, a really good read, lots of great info there, thank you. That Wraith you are talking about, is that the same model as the one called the SPYDER ? more specifically called the Wraith 1/10th Poison Spyder Jeep Wrangler, this one at my local hobby store may be what I should be looking at perhaps. So this Wraith Poison Spyder would be considered a true crawler ?

also, I've seen talk about "dog bones" I'm assuming this refers to the joints in the front, little balls on each end of a rod... ( looks like a dogbone ) ... so other than dogbones in the front or back, what else would be used ? other than those ? in other RC vehicles. And yes, you are reading this and shaking your head.... oh man this guy really is a newbie :-) Thanks for listening and your patience :-)
 
Hi skeeler, hey thanks for that info, a really good read, lots of great info there, thank you. That Wraith you are talking about, is that the same model as the one called the SPYDER ? more specifically called the Wraith 1/10th Poison Spyder Jeep Wrangler, this one at my local hobby store may be what I should be looking at perhaps. So this Wraith Poison Spyder would be considered a true crawler ?

also, I've seen talk about "dog bones" I'm assuming this refers to the joints in the front, little balls on each end of a rod... ( looks like a dogbone ) ... so other than dogbones in the front or back, what else would be used ? other than those ? in other RC vehicles. And yes, you are reading this and shaking your head.... oh man this guy really is a newbie :-) Thanks for listening and your patience :-)

The Wraith will be much more crawler than the Yeti and probably a better choice for you. I suggest going to the Wraith section and reading the stickys at the top.
 
Hi skeeler, hey thanks for that info, a really good read, lots of great info there, thank you. That Wraith you are talking about, is that the same model as the one called the SPYDER ? more specifically called the Wraith 1/10th Poison Spyder Jeep Wrangler, this one at my local hobby store may be what I should be looking at perhaps. So this Wraith Poison Spyder would be considered a true crawler ?

Yes the Axial Jeep Wrangler Wraith Poison Spyder RTR would be considered a "true crawler". The picture below has the Poison Spyder Wraith on the right.

axial_yeti_comparison_IMG_0004-XL.jpg
 
Why anyone would want to Crawl with a 'Yeti' is beyond me. Axial really dropped a clanger with this one. What they should have built is an SCX or XR width rig then it would have actually been useable.
But who in there right mind is going to want to crawl a 12.3'' rig through 13'' width gates they must need there head read!!!

But as what seems to be the norm these days the New Yeti is a recycled rig cobbled together with old parts from the parts bins!

Solution: Don't buy it. 'S easy, no?

I, for one, wíll buy it. The Wraith was pretty close to my dream toy, but this really takes the cake.

TWH on steroids. Luv'it! I'll even take out the rear locker.. (Horror, shock :shock: ) i wíll fill both diffs with the thickest diff-oil I can find, though. Works great for my speed Wraith with it's 5.5 t.
 
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Hi badger, thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Great comparison of those 2 trucks. Nice indeed. I love those tires 8)

I have pre-ordered the Yeti, I think I'll keep that order going, why not, life is short.

I am hoping that Axial does bring out some sort of crawler kit that one could just install in a matter of a few minutes. I guess this entails changing not 1 but 2 gears though.... the pinion ( this is the tiny gear on the actual motor I believe ) and then the larger gear that connects to it. Hmm, so how does a crawler work ? does the pinion get larger and the actual drive gear gets smaller to make the wheels turn slower ?

An interesting question....



Yes the Axial Jeep Wrangler Wraith Poison Spyder RTR would be considered a "true crawler". The picture below has the Poison Spyder Wraith on the right.

axial_yeti_comparison_IMG_0004-XL.jpg
 
Yes the Axial Jeep Wrangler Wraith Poison Spyder RTR would be considered a "true crawler". The picture below has the Poison Spyder Wraith on the right.

axial_yeti_comparison_IMG_0004-XL.jpg
With claims of the Yeti being too wide I'd be interested to know or see the difference between it and the Wraith.

The Wraith or Wroncho is wider but they find a way and are a very popular choice at the comps I've attended.
 
From that image, it does seem the Yeti is a hair or 3 or 4 wider. Perhaps I'm wrong but it does seem so. Maybe 1/2" wider ?

With claims of the Yeti being too wide I'd be interested to know or see the difference between it and the Wraith.

The Wraith or Wroncho is wider but they find a way and are a very popular choice at the comps I've attended.
 
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