ClassiCutCustoms
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Be careful or the rating on this thread will need to be changed...... Hahaha
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PURP builds a featherweight REMEDY
- Thread starter Purptr8r
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Purptr8r
Rock Crawler
Purptr8r
Rock Crawler
Let's try and cap it at nc-17..... Just salty enough people can't help but read .... But with enough info that people want to keep reading ..........I'll change the title to 50 SHADES OF PURP's REMEDY
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FLOKI-81
Rock Crawler
have you taken the xr10/remedy out for a spinn yet??
I am keen to watch some videos off how well it performs on the rocks..
with the RTR weight under 1500g it must be an awsome rig to crawl with.
I know the reptile I ran last season was perfect for me,,
and it was 1800g RTR with almoust all the vanquish parts,the reptile could make wonders happen on the rocks..
I felt I had so good control over it that anything was possible to do with that rig,,and I did only have 50g on each knuckle, with half rcbros weights under the axle.
this season I will run dlux superlites on a SUDU pro chassis with magic wands, he he he.
I am waiting for the motors (500 pullers flow 30T) from HH but I think the weight is gonna be around 1900g with 250g in tungsten weights in the front and 100g on the rear
I am keen to watch some videos off how well it performs on the rocks..
with the RTR weight under 1500g it must be an awsome rig to crawl with.
I know the reptile I ran last season was perfect for me,,
and it was 1800g RTR with almoust all the vanquish parts,the reptile could make wonders happen on the rocks..
I felt I had so good control over it that anything was possible to do with that rig,,and I did only have 50g on each knuckle, with half rcbros weights under the axle.
this season I will run dlux superlites on a SUDU pro chassis with magic wands, he he he.
I am waiting for the motors (500 pullers flow 30T) from HH but I think the weight is gonna be around 1900g with 250g in tungsten weights in the front and 100g on the rear
Purptr8r
Rock Crawler
Why are you putting weights on the rear ? What it the reason behind " super lights" if you will weigh them down ... The less the rear weighs , the more you can fling it around ... My reptile weighs 3.4 pounds without a battery with some vp goodies but not many ... Mostly plastic stuff like this one ..... But I've never ever added weight to my rear axle so I'll be anxiously waiting for your reasoning ....
I had asked Tobias for some magic wands for this chassis and my " nightmare" chassis and he said he wasn't taking new orders he was backed up .... Maybe my homie rob can whip me up something similar
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FLOKI-81
Rock Crawler
I got the rear weights with the axels when I bought em,,
so why dont give it a try I think,..
if I find out that I dont need em I just take em off.
but like the loaded dize weights from dlux this rear weights is coming pretty low inside the rear wheel,and far out..
it is just to get the COG as low as possible..
so why dont give it a try I think,..
if I find out that I dont need em I just take em off.
but like the loaded dize weights from dlux this rear weights is coming pretty low inside the rear wheel,and far out..
it is just to get the COG as low as possible..
Purptr8r
Rock Crawler
The cog being low is all fine and wonderful ... That's the key low cog but the front axle does 90 percent of all the work .... Here's a scenario for you .... You have a light rig weight is really low in the front wheels ...... You go through gate 3 uphill breakover .... Progress 3 .... Then after the peak it's a hard drop off ledge with a right hand turn to gate 4 with a boundary on your left ....... IMAGINE IT
.... Now you have options to leave a front tire up on a crest and cascade down or drop off the ledge ... Hmmm cascading would be the easiest BUT.... Your axle will get hung up and flip you so you chose to drop for safety ...... Your nose hits the bottom and you're straight up and down and before you can dig your way out those stupid weights in the rear make you flip over and tire hits the boundary .... No progress back to gate 3 with penalty points .... No one wants penalty points because the " weights came with the axles" Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
ClassiCutCustoms
RCC Addict
Purp,
I think you are onto something here. We had a gate last weekend at the local comp and the trucks with the extra KW just fell into a hole when the lightest trucks floated over it. This hobby is full of gadgets and gizmos and sometimes the main purpose is to sell something new. Some work well..... Some fill the classifieds shortly. I am of the opinion that Less is More and I have seen weight used as a Band-Aid to fix a problem somewhere else. KISS is a great philosophy! [emoji41] [emoji41] [emoji41]
I think you are onto something here. We had a gate last weekend at the local comp and the trucks with the extra KW just fell into a hole when the lightest trucks floated over it. This hobby is full of gadgets and gizmos and sometimes the main purpose is to sell something new. Some work well..... Some fill the classifieds shortly. I am of the opinion that Less is More and I have seen weight used as a Band-Aid to fix a problem somewhere else. KISS is a great philosophy! [emoji41] [emoji41] [emoji41]
Even lite rigs will toss that ass over like a heavy rig with weight, that heavy nose will make the rear do some crazy shit ;-) ......
Roll centers - weight transfers. Learn that and even a 3.5* truck will feel like a 5* pig "thumbsup"
Roll centers - weight transfers. Learn that and even a 3.5* truck will feel like a 5* pig "thumbsup"
Snatch
Pebble Pounder
That´s right,but....the less contact pressure you´ll get to have enough grip ;-)
I think to every advantage there´s a disadvantage,so everyone have to decide for it´s own driving-style
Very cool rig and chassis!!
Its a really simple idea that escapes most. I have no idea why. Make EVERYTHING as light as possible and then do/do not put weight where you want it.
I like weight in the rear. If you cant figure out why, maybe you should TRY it and then tell us your findings. Novel thought.
Putting weight at the wheel face and below the axle center line is a no brainer to me, even in the rear. To each their own though.... proof is on the battle field. All this theory talk is worthless.
Too bad youre on the East coast. You could come out to BOTW. Then we could see how you stack up and then on top of that, you could show me how the bounty lines are done. I have documented the bounty lines and guarantee they are some of the hardest around. We will see how many of some of the best drivers on the West coast can conquer them. I have them all documented with video.... and thats with my rear weights
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/dlux-presents-best-west/529431-bounty-lines.html
Barry, you had your shot to show us what you know. Pretty sure you cant place well at the local comps, you didnt even have the balls to run at Worlds. I personally have much more respect for somebody who places last then does not run at all. Why would we listen to your advice?
Lastly, I bet these rear weights work like crap. Almost 5oz per side :shock:
FLOKI-81
Rock Crawler
you heard the man...
and dlux has waaaaaay more expirience than me in this field
I only say,, what he said,,he he he
and dlux has waaaaaay more expirience than me in this field
I only say,, what he said,,he he he
Crawllife
Fifth dimension
Yes, he has spoken. Spoken down to peopke I'm friends with for no reason. I agree Erik has a lot of experience! That comes with a responsibility to help instead of being condescending. Ive now seen more than one challenge to us " east coast" drivers to come out west to see " how it's done". I've met and driven with guys that have driven the " boundary lines". They both had a common respect and class. 2 things the above post lacks. I'm unsure if they had rear weight though....I've been driving crawlers for 3 years and still don't have the perfect formulas for what we do. It's a lot of trial and error and stupid amounts of practice with your rigs. Everyone is going to like something different. I guess it doesn't matter because only west coast rock is difficult and those drivers worthy of any respect. I will be at all the circuit events this year except the west coast shoot out. It's a shame I'll miss the only worthy event. I once looked forward to meeting the people that helped me in the beginning of crawling. Now I just want to be left to my east coast wanna be crawlers. It's still fun for me that way.
ClassiCutCustoms
RCC Addict
..............
Barry, you had your shot to show us what you know. Pretty sure you cant place well at the local comps, you didnt even have the balls to run at Worlds. I personally have much more respect for somebody who places last then does not run at all. Why would we listen to your advice?.............
Erik,
I am sorry...... I didn't think I was asking you to listen to me. I guess you didn't even listen to the email I sent you yesterday. Would you care if I post that here for our fellow members to look over. I feel we should all be allowed to express our opinion without Bullying and slander. I don't have anything to prove on the rocks. You may not realize this but skills can come in many forms and knowledge and skills are not synonymous. I enjoy the design and building part of the hobby and the comps are social gatherings and not a place to compare genitalia size.
Barry, you had your shot to show us what you know. Pretty sure you cant place well at the local comps, you didnt even have the balls to run at Worlds. I personally have much more respect for somebody who places last then does not run at all. Why would we listen to your advice?.............
Erik,
I am sorry...... I didn't think I was asking you to listen to me. I guess you didn't even listen to the email I sent you yesterday. Would you care if I post that here for our fellow members to look over. I feel we should all be allowed to express our opinion without Bullying and slander. I don't have anything to prove on the rocks. You may not realize this but skills can come in many forms and knowledge and skills are not synonymous. I enjoy the design and building part of the hobby and the comps are social gatherings and not a place to compare genitalia size.
Not only was my product challenged but so were my ideas,.. which is fine but I dont understand why it is ok for people to challenge those ideas but not ok for me to ask people to put up or shut up? I understand that I speak too bluntly and crude sometimes. Please forgive me as I dont intend harm... most of the time.
No you havent.
I am glad you think we should all be allowed our opinions. I just gave mine but you have an issue with it.
I did get your email, you can do whatever you want with it. I cant and wont trust you. You have stolen almost every vendors designs on this board and continue to do more damage to more vendors with your self centered attitude. For you to say that you didnt intend to compete with me and that you dont think you copied my design is laughable. Anybody with two eyes, or even one good one can see that you traced my design and others. Maybe we should post all those examples next to each other? Youre no good for crawling or this community and that is why I dont and wont care for you.
Skills and knowledge are not synonymous, you're right. The catch is that you need a way to prove what you know, somehow, or that just makes you a guy who thinks he knows what he is talking about. If it didnt, who on here wouldn't claim to be a genius... we all are without proving it. Additionally, how would you know if a product that youre testing is better or worse if you cant drive very well?
Crawllife
Fifth dimension
It's the idea that was questioned. There isn't a person on this site that would mock one of your products Erik. Plus, the airlines run both ways. While I'm not angry or being attacked ( yet ), I'm just trying to bring an end to what seems like an endless stream of negativity. You yourself warned me about that in a email once. I don't understand why this continues dude.
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To spin the thread back to somewhat topic...
It depends on your perspective. From where I am sitting, I saw Purp talking about Floki's rear weights, which are my product. I didnt really take what Purp said personally, it could have been but add in Barry's stuff about Band-Aids and not being setup well is where I see the gray area. Maybe it was all generally speaking, I will give you that if you say so.
If you dont like lots of weight in the front or any in the rear, fine, I dont care. But dont be so arrogant to say that its covering a bad setup. What I am saying is that I will put my car up against any other on any hard lines (bounty lines). This also has nothing to do with me, just the car. Give two cars to one driver and give them a hard line. I will bet on my poorly setup car every time.
I went to AZ last summer and I was shown a line that was close to "impossible" Cant tell you how many people I saw try it. I was the only one to make it and I could do it almost every single time (took me a good bit to figure it out though). I gave my TWIN STICK to a non twin stick driver and said "here you try it with my car". Every time it went up the same "impossible" obstacle. Are you really going to tell me that I am that far off on my setup?
It depends on your perspective. From where I am sitting, I saw Purp talking about Floki's rear weights, which are my product. I didnt really take what Purp said personally, it could have been but add in Barry's stuff about Band-Aids and not being setup well is where I see the gray area. Maybe it was all generally speaking, I will give you that if you say so.
If you dont like lots of weight in the front or any in the rear, fine, I dont care. But dont be so arrogant to say that its covering a bad setup. What I am saying is that I will put my car up against any other on any hard lines (bounty lines). This also has nothing to do with me, just the car. Give two cars to one driver and give them a hard line. I will bet on my poorly setup car every time.
I went to AZ last summer and I was shown a line that was close to "impossible" Cant tell you how many people I saw try it. I was the only one to make it and I could do it almost every single time (took me a good bit to figure it out though). I gave my TWIN STICK to a non twin stick driver and said "here you try it with my car". Every time it went up the same "impossible" obstacle. Are you really going to tell me that I am that far off on my setup?
And back to the thread, Purp if your out there I was just wondering if you had a pic of the ends of that Egressor shaft before install. And how did he attach the final gear. I have been racking my brain for a couple days trying to figure it out. Not that I am going to attempt to make it, just think it's really cool. Build is looking awesome."thumbsup"
Crawllife
Fifth dimension
I'll try to play peace keeper one last time before I lose hope here. In your last sentence you mentioned your set up. No Where on this or any page has anyone questioned your ability to set up a crawler. As far as the " band aid" comment, I see this myself in threads and at comps. " she's not crawling right, add weight". Christ if I had a top 3 for every time I've heard that I'd be a legend. It's a general statement and a common conversation. All I see is personal opinion being tossed around and you taking it as a direct insult or attack. Why would someone send you a polite email and then attack you on here Erik? I'm sorry dude, you are a superior driver to me. You've been doing the crawling thing a lot longer as well. However ( here is another opinion) your wrong this time. No one called you or your stuff out. A question of rear weight was raised and you made it about you. I've seen those vids. Pulling those lines isn't luck. No one questions your abilities. I just think you should be above mocking someone else's. You can take that as an F - you or a friend trying to stop madness. I'm not in control of that. I just want peace in a dieing art. Perhaps my hippy out look isn't wanted amongst all this tough guy stuff.
