2013 Rules

[Calderwood]

I'm sure that I can speak for the whole rules committee when I say that we have no plans of changing the allowable wheel size. We have enough issues to juggle as it is.

If you feel compelled...write up a nice proposal explaining why changing the allowable wheel size of 2.2 would benefit the competition crawling community as a whole & I'll gladly present it to the RC for a vote. "thumbsup"

J.D.

We appreciate your sane decisions.:beer:

 

[Tgreer]

Guys I'm not trying to ruffle feathers! I feel that in my experience I could greatly benifit from a well designed knuckle weight for a 2.8 that would be more superior to the 2.2 setup. You guys can disagree with my opinion, I don't care! I'm just simply stating that for me a little bit larger wheel could produce a better performing rig with the right inovations from it! I also think there are some very competitive top national drivers that would agree! I realize I'm just a little fish in a big ocean, but this is what this section is for right, to be able to discuss and introduce ideas for the rules and have input on the pros and cons. So far it seems I'm just getting shoved away with no real answer to why it would be a bad idea!

AND I don't care how many issues the committee has! This sport will never grow if no one is willing to listen or care!!!!

 

[ROWDY RACING]

Guys I'm not trying to ruffle feathers! I feel that in my experience I could greatly benifit from a well designed knuckle weight for a 2.8 that would be more superior to the 2.2 setup. You guys can disagree with my opinion, I don't care! I'm just simply stating that for me a little bit larger wheel could produce a better performing rig with the right inovations from it! I also think there are some very competitive top national drivers that would agree! I realize I'm just a little fish in a big ocean, but this is what this section is for right, to be able to discuss and introduce ideas for the rules and have input on the pros and cons. So far it seems I'm just getting shoved away with no real answer to why it would be a bad idea!

AND I don't care how many issues the committee has! This sport will never grow if no one is willing to listen or care!!!!

Chill out and make a legit proposal and you'd have a better chance of being heard. There are tons of 2.2 wheels and tires that would be made obsolete is a big reason not to change.

 

[Tgreer]

Chill out and make a legit proposal and you'd have a better chance of being heard. There are tons of 2.2 wheels and tires that would be made obsolete is a big reason not to change.

Ok, I'm usually low key, but my nerve was struck when I was basicly shoved away! I realize that all crawler tires are 2.2, but I also realize that the best inovations have come from small setups and out of the garage from someone. Pro rigs are in entirely custom, supers are probably even more so! Everyone's go to wheel for a super is 3.8, because it's better! So why do we want to stay with a 2.2. No one is saying do away with 2.2, if you think 2.2 is better, then run it. But, why not open up other possibilities, allowing someone to try 2.8? Most of us have been modifying and customizing tires forever, so I don't think it would be an issue for someone to build a 2.8 tire if they want to try it, and we will still probably be buying the 2.2 crawler tires that our venders offer to make them! We can't grow as a sport if no one is willing to try new ideas. We definitly can't be stuck on the idea that we can't change because our venders don't make that!!!"thumbsup"


If this is not where I'm suppose to make a "legit proposal" then please direct me to where I can be heard without being pushed away!

 

[JeremyH]

We definitly can't be stuck on the idea that we can't change because our venders don't make that!!!"thumbsup"

You underestimate the power that some vendors have around here...."thumbsup"

 

[ROWDY RACING]

If this is not where I'm suppose to make a "legit proposal" then please direct me to where I can be heard without being pushed away!

Right place, wrong attitude.

 

[Tgreer]

You underestimate the power that some vendors have around here...."thumbsup"

That's sad, I love this sport and wish it wasn't ruled that way! I posted on here with a non threatening idea, then was emediatly givin a smart a** remark and shoved to the side! I hope the committe can change and start to receive ideas and respond to them in a discussion setting and not just a mud slinging contest. I've stated my idea, it's out there, I have no more to say about it. If the committee wants to discuss it great, if not, o well."thumbsup"

 

[ROWDY RACING]

That's sad, I love this sport and wish it wasn't ruled that way! I posted on here with a non threatening idea, then was emediatly givin a smart a** remark and shoved to the side! I hope the committe can change and start to receive ideas and respond to them in a discussion setting and not just a mud slinging contest. I've stated my idea, it's out there, I have no more to say about it. If the committee wants to discuss it great, if not, o well."thumbsup"

We can discuss it, I hope your not referring to me because I have not slung any mud at you. Chill and and ease up with all the exclamation marks that make it seem like you are shouting. Take your own advice about being civil and having a civil discussion about things that concern you.

 

[Tgreer]

Just build a super.

I'm sure that I can speak for the whole rules committee when I say that we have no plans of changing the allowable wheel size. We have enough issues to juggle as it is.

If you feel compelled...write up a nice proposal explaining why changing the allowable wheel size of 2.2 would benefit the competition crawling community as a whole & I'll gladly present it to the RC for a vote. "thumbsup"

J.D.

These are the two comment that got me hot. Both comments are basicly telling me to go away. After I had stated a non threatening idea to start with. The second statement made acts like a dictatorship. So, after those two comments I came back hot! I apologize, I just want to feel like my idea is heard, thought about, then givin a good explanation for why or why not.

 

[chad30w]

I think you guys should settle it in a dash for cash course.......do it tommy cause rowdys slow:ror: lol

 

[ROWDY RACING]

These are the two comment that got me hot. Both comments are basicly telling me to go away. After I had stated a non threatening idea to start with. The second statement made acts like a dictatorship. So, after those two comments I came back hot! I apologize, I just want to feel like my idea is heard, thought about, then givin a good explanation for why or why not.

Never listen to anyone named Nigel, and Hardknockz asked you make a proposal. Whenever anyone here wants something addressed by the RC a well written proposal is the best way to go about it. "thumbsup"

 

[Calderwood]

Guys I'm not trying to ruffle feathers! I feel that in my experience I could greatly benifit from a well designed knuckle weight for a 2.8 that would be more superior to the 2.2 setup. You guys can disagree with my opinion, I don't care! I'm just simply stating that for me a little bit larger wheel could produce a better performing rig with the right inovations from it! I also think there are some very competitive top national drivers that would agree! I realize I'm just a little fish in a big ocean, but this is what this section is for right, to be able to discuss and introduce ideas for the rules and have input on the pros and cons. So far it seems I'm just getting shoved away with no real answer to why it would be a bad idea!

AND I don't care how many issues the committee has! This sport will never grow if no one is willing to listen or care!!!!

What can you do with a 2.8 that you can't do with a 2.2?

 

[chad30w]

It might be a top secret deal Nigel that he doesn't want to give away.....someone might steal the idea and run with it:roll:

 

[Tgreer]

I can add more knuckle weight even lower for even lower overall cog of the rig! More stable rig produced from it. Even if you don't want to add more weight, the weight you already run can be set lower and more forward. I think a two stage foam could still be used as well, just the inner foam would be thinner than before.

 

[Tgreer]

Never listen to anyone named Nigel, and Hardknockz asked you make a proposal. Whenever anyone here wants something addressed by the RC a well written proposal is the best way to go about it. "thumbsup"

Hardknockz went about it with the wrong aditude. If he had of just told me to write up a well explained proposal, then that would have been fine, but the first statement made was (I'm a dictator) I think I speak for us all when I say we will not be making any rule changes on the wheels. I'm assuming he is on the committee, so if this is how ideas are received from everyone, then the committee is going to have alot of mad, and frustrated people.

 

[ROWDY RACING]

Hardknockz went about it with the wrong aditude. If he had of just told me to write up a well explained proposal, then that would have been fine, but the first statement made was (I'm a dictator) I think I speak for us all when I say we will not be making any rule changes on the wheels. I'm assuming he is on the committee, so if this is how ideas are received from everyone, then the committee is going to have alot of mad, and frustrated people.

Yes he is on the RC, and so am I.

JD can't help but be brutally honest, he is from Calitardia after all. :mrgreen:

 

[chad30w]

I think rockedupricky is from there also.......hmmmmm interesting

 

[Calderwood]

I can add more knuckle weight even lower for even lower overall cog of the rig! More stable rig produced from it. Even if you don't want to add more weight, the weight you already run can be set lower and more forward. I think a two stage foam could still be used as well, just the inner foam would be thinner than before.

You realize that the id of the wheel can be any size you want, right? Only the bead surface is regulated. You can make the inside a larger diameter to allow the weights to sit lower down in the wheel. Infact, it's already been done on here. Instead of changing classes that have been in effect since the beginning, why not think outside the box? "thumbsup"

 

[Tgreer]

All right then Rowdy Racing, I believe you have recently started into the super stuff. Tell me then why you use a 3.8 instead of 3.2? The 3.8 gives you more options! If it works for supers why can't we try it for pro running a 2.8?

 

[Calderwood]

Never listen to anyone named Nigel, and Hardknockz asked you make a proposal. Whenever anyone here wants something addressed by the RC a well written proposal is the best way to go about it. "thumbsup"

Wtf?