Bulldog's Screamin 2 Southern Buggy

[warren]

what did the wheel base end up being? and did you norrow the axles or are they factory wraith width?

 

[Bulldog]

Axle question answered

Thanks mud digger! I'm very pleased with it!

Warren, My wheelbase is at 14 inches with the stock wraith link length and skid. The ground clearance is at 2.5". I wanted to keep the looks as scale as possible and southern buggies are quite low. It would be a bit more fun jacked up a bit, but it drives like a 1:1, and that's what I wanted. As for the axles, go back through the thread. Clay Carter (Carterfab) took the VP axles and narrowed them 9/16" either side. Wraith axles aren't scale no matter how you look at them. We fixed that big time. He also fabbed a new panhard/three link truss. The work was super clean and definitely made the build. "thumbsup"

 

[warren]

ok thanks. i'll go back and find where you talked about norrowing the axles.

 

[Ricochet]

What thickness styrene did you use for the floor ? Trying to figure out if I'm going with styrene or metal.

 

[Bulldog]

What thickness styrene did you use for the floor ? Trying to figure out if I'm going with styrene or metal.

I used .08 for the floor and various thicknesses for the rest of it."thumbsup"

 

[gearhead79]

First things first,this thing is sooo badarse!!!! But i got a quick question,what did you do with the dummy screws for the bead lock rings??? did you just cut them shorter and glue them in or something??? i read through almost the whole thread so maybe i missed it.again awsome build!!!!!

 

[Ricochet]

Back to the drawing board. I revisited the cms setup and instead of using the vp cms in the direction it is meant, I flipped and rotated it. On to the pics.

Here is the panhard and cms all mounted. I need to shorten the panhard link a little. You can see a little extension I put on the panhard axle mount to test.

Then, to answer the steering drag link problem, I relocated the drag link with a bend in it to behind the axle. It just clears the shock even with turning the knuckles. The shocks I'll be running will be smaller as well. These are just for mockup. Once I shorten the panhard link, I'll mount it back in the axle mount like it's supposed to.

Here's how I mounted the vp cms to the chassis. You can see that had I used the bracket the way it would mount on the wraith, it would be in the way of all the tubework. I'm very pleased with how it turned out. When it's all said and done, I'll build a styrene motor to cover the servo.

Thanks for looking. "thumbsup"

Bulldog first off sorry for all the questions but I got a couple more if ya don't mind. Why did you use the vp cms kit ? Couldn't you have made your own mount for the servo or am I missing something about the vp cms kit ? Asking cause I'm thinking about going with a cms and figuring out what I need to get for it or if I can make my own. Thanks man I'll try to quit with the questions.

 

[Bulldog]

First things first,this thing is sooo badarse!!!! But i got a quick question,what did you do with the dummy screws for the bead lock rings??? did you just cut them shorter and glue them in or something??? i read through almost the whole thread so maybe i missed it.again awsome build!!!!!

Thanks Gearhead. Clay drilled the extra holes smaller, so the dummy screws went in tight (a good thing). I then had to take each and every dummy screw and thread it into a 3mm nut and then cut off the extra thread with a dremel. Then I backed the screw out to restore the thread. If you look on lockedup's site, he installs the dummy screws in his beadlock rings and grinds them off from the backside. I couldn't do this because the rings are delrin and they would melt with the heat. It was tedius, but turned out well. "thumbsup"

 

[Bulldog]

Bulldog first off sorry for all the questions but I got a couple more if ya don't mind. Why did you use the vp cms kit ? Couldn't you have made your own mount for the servo or am I missing something about the vp cms kit ? Asking cause I'm thinking about going with a cms and figuring out what I need to get for it or if I can make my own. Thanks man I'll try to quit with the questions.

Questions are always welcome. The reason I used the cms is it had the mounts for the servo already there and threaded. I brazed in that flat plate so I could mount the whole vp cms to it. There's so little space in there, I wasn't about to try and engineer a new mount and find out it didn't work. This way, if I needed to slide it back or forward for some reason, it was a matter of drilling 2 new holes for the cms and not rebrazing a whole setup. It's not real pretty, but there is absolutely NO room up front for things to be out of place. The cms functions nothing like how it's supposed to on a stock wraith, and isn't part of the panhard setup as well. I wanted a really scale ride height, and between the links, the panhard, the behind the axle steering and the shocks, it all fits with not a millimeter to spare. I could put larger shocks on to get more clearance, but I wanted to keep it low."thumbsup"

 

[gearhead79]

Thanks Gearhead. Clay drilled the extra holes smaller, so the dummy screws went in tight (a good thing). I then had to take each and every dummy screw and thread it into a 3mm nut and then cut off the extra thread with a dremel. Then I backed the screw out to restore the thread. If you look on lockedup's site, he installs the dummy screws in his beadlock rings and grinds them off from the backside. I couldn't do this because the rings are delrin and they would melt with the heat. It was tedius, but turned out well. "thumbsup"

Oh boy,looks like im in for some fun :lmao: i went with the delrin rings too!!! Sorry but after seeing yours i had to get a set for a project im starting on.thank you for the tip,i appriciate it!!!!"thumbsup"

 

[Bulldog]

Oh boy,looks like im in for some fun :lmao: i went with the delrin rings too!!! Sorry but after seeing yours i had to get a set for a project im starting on.thank you for the tip,i appriciate it!!!!"thumbsup"

Just let Mthead know what wheels you're working with and he has a file for them. He can set you up with a set of rings appropriate for whatever wheels you are using as long as they are common. Look for his thread in the vendor section...there are some sick ring designs! "thumbsup"

 

[MX304]

I saw this too, and was about to post it up. Hopefully it doesn't get changed to much it was my favorite buggy. He modified it once before and it didn't change much. Either way I'm sure it will be bad ass.

I think he's modding it to fit a straight drive monster truck transfer case like Tim Cameron put in Game Changer.

 

[Moosekey]

Bulldog this rig is very cool! I like your Driver he looks very scale to the rig the whole rig looks clean."thumbsup"

 

[Bulldog]

Bulldog this rig is very cool! I like your Driver he looks very scale to the rig the whole rig looks clean."thumbsup"

Thanks Luis, I'm very happy with how it turned out. That working driver kicked my butt! But it worked. Stay tuned for another video in the next few weeks."thumbsup"

 

[warren]

after reading through this thread i couldn't help but i start my own rock bouncer build. it's consumed most of my time for the past 3 weeks. lol i'll be posting a build thread soon.

 

[Bulldog]

after reading through this thread i couldn't help but i start my own rock bouncer build. it's consumed most of my time for the past 3 weeks. lol i'll be posting a build thread soon.

Take your time, and don't be afraid to ask for help. The PM is always here. Good luck, and stock up on the advil!:lmao:

 

[Ricochet]

Re: Finished!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey guess what more questions. Where did you get those locker hubs and what did you make you "engine" from ?

 

[Bulldog]

Oh you had to ask! The hubs/lockers are from the stock rc4wd wheels that I tried to link to you (that are no longer made). The Engine, if you look closely at my thread is my steering servo with a toothpaste cap and a stainless screw flange (hardware store) glued on the end. The whole thing is notched over the servo wire along with a spare gmade shock bottom glued into the back of it. The chrome part is part of a toys R us engine kit that's available at, well, toys r us. Google it or look around the site for "scale engines". I just shoo gooed it on to add some realism. I wasn't looking for perfection, but I fooled at least a couple members! :lmao:

 

[Hoyta]

Without a doubt the best build sheet I have read. Awesome work man- very cool to watch!

 

[Bulldog]

Without a doubt the best build sheet I have read. Awesome work man- very cool to watch!

Thanks for the nice words. As a builder, I was pretty pleased with it myself. Is it time to move on to another one?8)8)8)