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Curious about esc wiring failure I had

dna4engr

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I'll start this by saying I'm usually pretty solid on wiring and don't have issues hardly ever. However I made a stupid mistake and I'm curious if it should have happened or not.

I am wiring up my 6x6 build with a 1/8 buggy esc and 6ws. So I'm using a castle Bec pro for steering.

I wired it as follows - excuse my chicken scratching on the sketch

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The end result is I ended up frying the negative wire on the esc pwm cable (the one that plugs into a rx). Only that wire is damaged as I unplugged it quite fast. Rx is fine, Bec is fine. And oddly enough the esc still turns on and arms the motor just missing the rx signal.

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Looking at the schematic after screwing it up its obvious I made a mistake. The esc has two batt connectors to run 4s by way of series 2s batts. I loop the one side to run 3s or just 2s. So I basically wired my Bec in series with the positive side of the battery.

That's my fault and a stupid mistake. However, if I had had 4s with 2 2s batts in series wired the exact way I show. Would that allow the Bec to work properly or still fry the wire it did??

Hindsight, I should have wired the Bec at the pos and neg points of the esc instead of the batt connectors.

Second question. How did it only fry the neg wire on the pwm cable? My assumption is that the Bec has much higher current capability and the current was trying to find ground through the little black wire back to battery but the current was just too much for that tiny wire to handle to it became a sacrificial fuse.

This is more of a discussion post. I know what went wrong and I know how to fix it (mamba monster x on order and will be wired much more carefully).
Just curious if my diagnosis is on the right track. And if anyone has ever used an esc with ONLY the signal wire connected to the rx. I'd power the rx with a separate Bec.


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If you followed that exactly, then you wired the BEC incorrectly. In electronics you always want to keep a common ground when possible, except when mixing AC & DC. The BEC's ground should have been to the lowest ground, the left-most battery and the ESC negative. If you looped that lower connector, you shorted the BEC pos to ground, and it'd have been reverse polarity if you had a 2nd battery there.

It depends mostly on how that BEC reacted to a short or reverse-polarity, but my guess is the servo grounds switched polarity. That probably created a short thru the ESC ground wire, and 20awg can't handle that kind of amperage.


FYI best practice is to put the BEC pos on the highest voltage batt wire, to the "loop +" terminal. A switch-mode BEC is 90% efficient, so loss is insignificant if when using 4S instead of powering from just 2S.
 
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Yea I realized what I did wrong after the think fried.
I kinda figured that was the root cause at a detailed level.

Any chance you've used an esc with only a signal wire going to the rx and a separate Bec???


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