Easy way of downloading to iTunes?

[djjiz]

Too bad there isn't any new music worth stealing..

 

[THX_138]

Ideally, the music label wants everyone to purchase everything, always. That's their business, that's their lifeblood. Then of course the musician wants everyone to buy everything always also, because that's how they get paid, per CD sales (or store purchased digital downloads). If one person bought some band's CD, only one, then made friends with everyone else in the world via Facebook and file sharing and leant out that one CD to listen to, be it on a CD player or computer or iPod et al., the music label and band only get a couple bucks (if that), one time.

Right?

Axial gets paid every time a person breaks/needs a knuckle (assuming stock replacements). Unless of course it's aftermarket. Axial gets nothing for that. Just like a music label gets nothing from someone ripping a CD. I can put some money back into the whole thing by using CD-Rs, but still music label gets no money. Or, like breaking the Axial knuckle I break the CD and want it again.

See where I'm going with all this? Hope so, I'm tired of typing.

There's an honor system in place and no one cares. It's cause people are crap.

That's a good way to break it down Eeepee and explain it8)
People have gotten so used to stealing music and not even realize what they are doing(or they do and don't care) that what should have been a common sense thing not to do, has become the norm and accepted by a lot of folks:shock::x

Demonoid, totally different situation than giving someone a spare part, there aren't laws governing that like there is on music piracy ;-)

Both very good, clear and to the point explanations."thumbsup"

 

[dont slow down]

Ideally, the music label wants everyone to purchase everything, always. That's their business, that's their lifeblood. Then of course the musician wants everyone to buy everything always also, because that's how they get paid, per CD sales (or store purchased digital downloads). If one person bought some band's CD, only one, then made friends with everyone else in the world via Facebook and file sharing and leant out that one CD to listen to, be it on a CD player or computer or iPod et al., the music label and band only get a couple bucks (if that), one time.

Right?

Axial gets paid every time a person breaks/needs a knuckle (assuming stock replacements). Unless of course it's aftermarket. Axial gets nothing for that. Just like a music label gets nothing from someone ripping a CD. I can put some money back into the whole thing by using CD-Rs, but still music label gets no money. Or, like breaking the Axial knuckle I break the CD and want it again.

See where I'm going with all this? Hope so, I'm tired of typing.

There's an honor system in place and no one cares. It's cause people are crap.

But when companies force you to buy the same music twice (*cough* Apple *cough*) or restrict what you can do with your legally purchased music that only leads to more piracy. I bought the song and I should be able to damn well what I want with it, no questions asked. This is especially evident with Apple's movies. You buy a movie in iTunes and you can only watch it on your computer, or Apple device. It's my damn movie and I'll do with it what I want (which is why I only made that mistake once). I can't burn it to a DVD to watch or backup, and I can only transfer it to a certain number of devices. Now THAT is crap.

 

[JeremyH]

Ideally, the music label wants everyone to purchase everything, always. That's their business, that's their lifeblood. Then of course the musician wants everyone to buy everything always also, because that's how they get paid, per CD sales (or store purchased digital downloads). If one person bought some band's CD, only one, then made friends with everyone else in the world via Facebook and file sharing and leant out that one CD to listen to, be it on a CD player or computer or iPod et al., the music label and band only get a couple bucks (if that), one time.

Right?

Axial gets paid every time a person breaks/needs a knuckle (assuming stock replacements). Unless of course it's aftermarket. Axial gets nothing for that. Just like a music label gets nothing from someone ripping a CD. I can put some money back into the whole thing by using CD-Rs, but still music label gets no money. Or, like breaking the Axial knuckle I break the CD and want it again.

See where I'm going with all this? Hope so, I'm tired of typing.

There's an honor system in place and no one cares. It's cause people are crap.

And on the contrary, the music industry wants their cake and to eat it too. They want the populous to buy their product without any knowledge of it before hand. No other industry that I can think of does this. The auto industry lets you test drive their car before you buy it. Hell, even McDonalds shows you a picture of the food you are about to buy. But NOT the music industry. They want you to buy the album unheard and if you don't like it, too bad.

Sorry, but this policy is only good for the big players in the music industry. The little guys benefit from their music being downloaded and shared by others...it helps them get their name out there. I have quite a few friends in small time bands and they will tell you exactly the same.

I own countless albums from bands who I had never heard of, downloaded their album, liked it and went and purchased the CD (because of the lacking sound quality of digital format). If I had simply seen the CD in a music store, I would probably have not given it a second look.

When the music industry steps up their game and starts treating their customers like the rest of those in our capitalist society, then I will start feeling bad for them.....until that time, they get no sympathy from me.

 

[EeePee]

But when companies force you to buy the same music twice (*cough* Apple *cough*)...

Apple - iTunes - Inside iTunes - Download Previously Purchased Songs, Apps, and Books

"thumbsup"

No other industry that I can think of does this. The auto industry lets you test drive their car before you buy it. Hell, even McDonalds shows you a picture of the food you are about to buy. But NOT the music industry. They want you to buy the album unheard and if you don't like it, too bad.

I wish McDonald's showed you what you're really going to get, cause it don't look like the picture!

We can hear previews and sometimes entire songs on iTunes, or Amazon, etc. Youtube will have entire albums sometimes. There's ways, I guess. Or Pandora and whatever? I don't care for music from the computer, call me old fashioned, or hard headed.

Sorry, but this policy is...

I agree completely. I'm not innocent. I do legally purchase a lot of music and a movie here and there just because it's the newest one from a band I like, but I also hear it via other means. One of my favorite people to hang out with doesn't even have a computer, and buys ~10 CDs a week! Used and for cheap, but still. One of these rare guys that still goes to the stores to keep in touch instead of sitting behind these computers. He's a big source of listening to new tunes for me. Obscure record labels, like Barsuck Records has been a good one for me, they keep me in touch (by spamming me constantly). Wikipedia is a good one too. Listening to new stuff and check 'em out on Wiki, then click band names or musicians and see what's associated with them somehow. Kyuss was a great discovery down that path.

Anyways, iCloud an option for the OP?

 

[EeePee]

Here ya go JH, if you're a Dave Matthews Band fan, new complete album to listen to for free on iTunes. Front page, top of the screen. No idea how to link from there.

Just sayin', it happens.

8)

 

[JeremyH]

I wish McDonald's showed you what you're really going to get, cause it don't look like the picture!

Yeah, and music labels hype the shit out of the worst albums....and they sell. Fawkin suckas!

Here ya go JH, if you're a Dave Matthews Band fan, new complete album to listen to for free on iTunes. Front page, top of the screen. No idea how to link from there.

Just sayin', it happens.

8)

Blech.....I hate that band. I wouldn't take their albums if they were free.

But, that brings up a good point. A while back, Weezer put one of their albums, in it's entirety, on their website for download. It was a crappy quality, but the user could listen, then make up their mind.

It makes me wonder when we'll get to the point that a band cant even sell their own album at a show because the label isn't getting a cut. I have a buddy who is "given", by the label, a select number of albums to sell at shows....now isn't that some shit!??!?!

 

[EeePee]

Yeah, and music labels hype the shit out of the worst albums...

People aren't forced to buy them them, it's their crappy taste in music that allows them to buy them. "thumbsup"

At the kids level, it might just be a popularity contest at school. Like Beats headphones... Now that's the super hype machine out of control.

It makes me wonder when we'll get to the point that a band cant even sell their own album at a show because the label isn't getting a cut. I have a buddy who is "given", by the label, a select number of albums to sell at shows....now isn't that some shit!??!?!

Is the "select number" the bullshit part?

 

[JeremyH]

People aren't forced to buy them them, it's their crappy taste in music that allows them to buy them. "thumbsup"

People also arent forced to buy a car, but they do.

Is the "select number" the bullshit part?

No, it's the "we MUST get a cut of your profit" part. THAT is the part that is pushing all of this anti-sharing nonsense.

 

[EeePee]

Just learned on last night's new Fifth Gear episode that the Toyota Corolla is the number one selling car world wide. Plain boring highly advertised cookie cutter car selling more than something with style or uniqueness? See the comparison there? :mrgreen:

Camry and Accord have to still be up there. All boring, just tell me what to buy types of cars.

Interesting, but not really a surprise about MUST getting a cut. Was the record label acting as a promoter? Then sure, seems normal, I think? Not as a promoter, then I don't really understand.

Makes me wonder if, for instance DMB has to give whatever record label they're on a cut at every show.

 

[JeremyH]

Just learned on last night's new Fifth Gear episode that the Toyota Corolla is the number one selling car world wide. Plain boring highly advertised cookie cutter car selling more than something with style or uniqueness? See the comparison there? :mrgreen:

My wife drives a corolla. A cheap, reliable car that gets good gas mileage and has only required an alternator and belt tensioner change in 100k mi.

Still.....a car we test drove FIRST...before buying.

This brings up a good point.....is it stealing if my wife lets her friend drive her car for a week or so?


As I said before, when the music industry starts letting their customers test drive first, then I'll start feeling sympathy for them losing money through downloading.

 

[EeePee]

As I said before, when the music industry starts letting their customers test drive first, then I'll start feeling sympathy for them losing money through downloading.

Well, I did just finish my free test drive of the DMB new album on iTunes... "thumbsup"

 

[JeremyH]

Well, I did just finish my free test drive of the DMB new album on iTunes... "thumbsup"

I'm sorry...

Now, what about your friend without a computer? How shall he "test drive" that new, certainly terrible, album from the man in the pajamas?

 

[EeePee]

Yeah, it wasn't that good really. Earlier stuff is better.

Remember when music stores had CD players and headphones set up in booths to listen? We still have one of those! Only one left in existence it seems. True story! :ror:

I spent hours at two stores on the main strip here in Columbus at Ohio State in the 90s. Sad day when one burned down. Even sadder hearing all but one are left out the 5 or 6 right there in the area.

We've gotten to see the death of physical media, in all forms. Been a slow, painful death too. All our lives, really. Floppy discs, 3.5 inch, whatever else computer stuff, reel to reel, LP (on a resurgence!), 8 track, cassettes, CDs, SACD, DVD-A, Beta, VHS, Laser Disc, DVDs even. Blu Ray could be the end of hard copies. We got to experience them all, and then some that I can't remember.

All those mix tapes we made in high school were copyright infringement. :ror:

 

[JeremyH]

Yes, exactly...mix tapes were the first file sharing. I still don't think there is anything wrong with either. It promotes the growth of the music industry.

Yes, we have one music store in Houston that has a listening station...and it fawking sucks. It takes ten minutes to search for an album and listen to it....

They have stations where you can listen to the albums that they have picked out, but it's never anything that I actually like.

 

[dirk379]

I've search and asked friends many times before trying to find an easy way of copying and storing my music on my itouch to iTunes but never any luck. I know music you purchase does but music you haven't, you never can. Maybe someone knows a program or something that allows me to put all my music on to iTunes because my itouch has needed an update but I haven't done it because the last time I did, all the music I put on disappeared because it wasn't purchased music so it didn't get stored in the iTunes cloud

Google search: podshare

You wont be able to play other peoples itunes purchased music on your computer with out logging into their account, but it works fine once it's on your ipod. Pretty easy to use, it'll bring up all the music on your pod, i believe it's a check box system, check all the songs you want, hit transfer. done.

 

[demonoid369]

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Anyways, iCloud an option for the OP?

I've been trying to figure that thing out lol I can do a back up on my itouch to iCloud and I've enabled iCloud on to the laptop but I've tried transferring all my music and it's still not there lol only the iTunes purchased ones

 

[toyofast]

As long as the media is in the right format, you should be able to add whatever you want. I downloaded my nieces iPods complete library of music to an external drive, same place I store all my audio & video media, then drag and drop the songs and videos I want back into my iTunes. As long as the media type is in the correct format, it seems to work fine for me. I convert DVDs and audio CDs and store them on that external hard drive, then when wanted we either stream from there or transfer to iTunes, iPad, iPhone or watch/listen through the appleTV.

We are an Apple household.

 

[Zod Rhombus]

Same here. Drag and drop from my storage drive into iTunes then onto my iPhone 4. No probs.

 

[demonoid369]

alright, so I was able to use my moms laptop instead and got that all sorted and updated but then found out why my ipod touch wont sync with my laptop........... so I have the latest update on my itouch 5.1.1 and itunes is updated to it or the 6.3 something but when I plug my itouch in, it says "the ipod "larrys itouch" cannot be used because it requires itunes version 10.5 or later" then it goes to the itunes site to download the latest version.
the thing I'm confused is how the hell do you update itunes on a itouch?!?!?! lol never have I seen this or ever seen itunes on an itouch get updated.