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Thoughts???

Service based businesses that do not cater to the fine details of customers often fail.

What were the prices prior to the Asian guys ownership ?
Any knowledge about why the Scottish couple sold it?
How many barber shops are there close to that area?
 
That place sounds like it won't be getting the same clientele it used to very shortly.


I go to a place called "The Men Zone" and it's fantastic. All the ladies are very nice to look at. They give you a beer to drink while you wait. Even the basic hair cut includes a neck massage, shampoo and straight razor neck trim.

I was just there Saturday before the harvest party for work and I got a haircut and beard trim for $35. More expensive than an old school barber for sure but I really don't want Gus the barber rubbing my neck or shampooing my hair either. :lol:
 
I go to the Indian woman near my old place. $10/5 minutes And I tip her $10.
That's what I want, in and out asap. I've recommended her to everyone i know...
My daughter goes there to get her eyebrows threaded and my ex goes there to get her... maintenance done.
 
On another note,

My old barber shop that i've gone to for over 5 years has changed owners. Went in one day
and instead of the older Scottish couple and the normal staff, there's a 40 year old Asian guy
playing on his phone out the front of the shop next to a vending machine and a kid inside (his son
I'm guessing) cutting someones hair.

I get told to use the vending machine and there's 3 options.

Neck shave
Hair cut
beard trim

All ten dollars now, he was happy to tell me and he had even printed out
a list of the "old" prices next to the vending machine. I only wanted a neck shave
and I was already there so I did it. Put ten dollars in, got a ticket printed out
and was told to sit down and wait.

After going through what just happened in my head and watching him sit next to me playing on his phone
I told him "this setup isn't right"

He said "you're wrong, this is how we will get customers" then proceeded to try and show me something on his
phone. I said " how about you keep the ten dollars and don't worry about the haircut" and walked out.

This shop has a lot of old clientele/elderly clientele that have gone there for years. The old guy
getting his haircut from the kid looked at me and heard what happened and probably walked out
after. He had a look on his face like he didn't want to be there either.

Nothing against him being Asian, I couldn't give a shit what he looked like, I just felt like someone
waiting for a sandwich at a stand. Getting a haircut is pretty personal and it's nice to be treat
as such, especially for older people. If you're in your 20's and getting a no.2 cut maybe its a bit different.

Nothing against the kid either, I mean he's learning, whatever.... The way the shop was setup
in my opinion (and the guys behaviour) was miles off from anywhere I would be spending my money.

Thoughts???

I would have walked out before paying, but either way never going back, that's not how to run a business. :evil:

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When was the last time a Christian beheaded another person and put it on the internet?




I guess you missed the vids of the hanging of Saddam and all of the footage from all of the wars dating back to WW1 until present.

There's plenty of christian based cruelty that can be seen on film. If anything, in most cases everything we've done is far more atrocious than a few people being beheaded. But the media would rather have you focused on a handful of people getting their heads cut off or a couple hundred people being shot/bombed than talk about how many millions of people we've blown and burnt up in the name of god and country.


I'm not defending anyone here, but both sides "do the work of the devil". And it's all thanks to the ridiculous nature of religion. Other crazy religious people seem to rely solely on their religion but we here in the US like to add nationality into the mix so it doesn't make us sound as nutty. Although there's a growing number of us that aren't fooled anymore.
 
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Other crazy religious people seem to rely solely on their religion but we here in the US like to add nationality into the mix so it doesn't make us sound us nutty.

It makes it worse, actually. It's times like this that you get to see how racist, self absorbed, self righteous, bigoted, and ultimately, weak, some of the self proclaimed religious and so-called patriots of this country can be. They hate because they are afraid, not only of the million to one odds of what might happen, but because they're confronted with their own shortcomings and failures.

If you have love, you cannot hate. If you have faith, you cannot fear. The public representatives of the conservative religious political movement spew hate and fear, the exact opposite of the man they profess to follow.
 
Amen brother!

But yup, you are correct. However silly the idea of religions are a lot of the virtues are worthwhile. Just seems like nobody takes mind of them except, ironically people who don't believe in religion.
 
My old haircut was 20 bucks. Just a basic haircut. Occasionally I would
go in for a neck shave ( with the cut throat of course) and they would do
it for nothing. Even when I offered them.

The new place I go to reckons there's a lot of these 10 dollar haircut places
opening up.

Wouldn't mind a cold brew while I waited, that sounds alright.

Don't know what happened to the old owners, went in one day and the place looked
the same but they where gone. They always had awesome movie and nostalgia type
prints and posters on the walls and changed them all the time.

I'm getting a bit sick of substandard shitty service these days and items. I have a classic muscle car
(only 500 made) and took two of the wheels in to get tires fitted. picked them up damaged.
Someone had dropped them on the front face and scratched up the front of the wheels.

I Paid 800 bucks for a new computer that crashes all the time, amongst other things it does.
Been back to the shop about 4 times and have given up on it.

Bought mum a push bike for Christmas and decided to rebuild the hubs and crank and put good
grease and lube in there. Several bearings where missing.

I'm getting sick of paying for rubbish, or buying new things and having to repair them.
Even at work we get in replacement parts even nuts and bolts which wont go together.
Zinc bolts and nuts galvanised so cheaply the bolts are unusable. Some of them aren't
cheap either.

I rebuild heavy duty coolers/radiators with new cores, and more often then not have to repair them
or solder them properly before I assemble it, sadly a lot of them are made here.
Occasionally we will get one from china if were doing an aluminium unit and the quality
is better than here. Pretty sad. Pretty sad having to patch up shit, that a day or two
ago was in a factory being made "new"

It's like everything's crap, there's no work ethic, and no one cares.

Welcome to the new world I guess.
 
Buy a set of clippers and do it yourself. I haven't paid for a haircut in a decade. Solves a lot of problems.

As far as crap work ethic and product goes that's the outsourced and non-caring age we live in. You have to be wary of what you buy and not count on support.
 
Good work ethic is all but gone. I blame the phones. And parents or bosses being too shitty.
 
My old haircut was 20 bucks. Just a basic haircut. Occasionally I would
go in for a neck shave ( with the cut throat of course) and they would do
it for nothing. Even when I offered them.

The new place I go to reckons there's a lot of these 10 dollar haircut places
opening up.

Wouldn't mind a cold brew while I waited, that sounds alright.

Don't know what happened to the old owners, went in one day and the place looked
the same but they where gone. They always had awesome movie and nostalgia type
prints and posters on the walls and changed them all the time.

Barbers in my area have an association. They have increased the prices 60% in the past 2 years. I sense the barbers in your area have created an association. They usually force everyone to come under a single price umbrella so that everyone gets a fare share of business. The old couple had values and I am sure they disliked the way the new system was supposed to be and hence preferred to move out of way.

I'm getting a bit sick of substandard shitty service these days and items. I have a classic muscle car
(only 500 made) and took two of the wheels in to get tires fitted. picked them up damaged.
Someone had dropped them on the front face and scratched up the front of the wheels.

I Paid 800 bucks for a new computer that crashes all the time, amongst other things it does.
Been back to the shop about 4 times and have given up on it.

Bought mum a push bike for Christmas and decided to rebuild the hubs and crank and put good
grease and lube in there. Several bearings where missing.

I'm getting sick of paying for rubbish, or buying new things and having to repair them.
Even at work we get in replacement parts even nuts and bolts which wont go together.
Zinc bolts and nuts galvanised so cheaply the bolts are unusable. Some of them aren't
cheap either.

I rebuild heavy duty coolers/radiators with new cores, and more often then not have to repair them
or solder them properly before I assemble it, sadly a lot of them are made here.
Occasionally we will get one from china if were doing an aluminium unit and the quality
is better than here. Pretty sad. Pretty sad having to patch up shit, that a day or two
ago was in a factory being made "new"

It's like everything's crap, there's no work ethic, and no one cares.

Welcome to the new world I guess.

Good work ethic is all but gone. I blame the phones. And parents or bosses being too shitty.

Its because cheap chinese manufacturing has %ed each and every one on this globe. When someone offers something for dead cheap, it de-stabilises all other businesses. When businesses are stressed the first thing they loose is quality and go into survival mode. All small repair shops, or industries run around the globe are middle class people and not multi millionaire empires to buffer chinese impact.

I very well know the frustration that you are going through repairing a lot of things bought new because I go through that same shit
Here is what happens in India and the psycology at each step of this un branded goods business.
1] There are big importers that import stuff from china because it makes them huge amount of money. These importers have a pure capitalist psycology. They are socially irresponsible and simply want to relax and see their turnover and profits increase. They import what is cheap/rubbish because they have to invest less on these things and when they dump it, they get a good rate of return on their investment.
2] Sub wholesellers across the country buy from the above mentioned big importers which are located close to the shipping ports. They buy from them because of the same capitalist psycology of making a big rate of return. These to have the same socially irresponsible relaxed attitude of making money.
3] Retailers buy from these sub wholesellers because they make a whooping 50- 300% profit in most cases selling these goods to the consumers. This group is the most money hungry of all. If I as a manufacturer go to them with my product, first thing they will ask is a huge discount on Max retail price because they are used to making a huge rate of return on their investment. Its a habbit hard to let go even if its erroding the local business.
4]chinese manufacturers know, even if they give sub standard and 3rd grade quality, there is a capitalist supply chain waiting to buy their rubbish and dump it on the consumers. This helps them reduce their own investment by buying hopeless re processed raw material.
5] How could I ignore the bankers! These a**holes do not supply the manufacturing industry with the right amount of finance needed because lesser the money sinks into the market, more control they have. Manufacturing is a bloody money hungry business and if stressed, it straight away impacts the quality of product. Majority of those chinese manufacturers don't have an easy job. Most of them are neck deep in loans and are underfunded and in this situation they have to face stiff internal competetion.
6] The consumers face the real problem that all of these a**holes in this supply chain make up. We do not get choices because the retailers don't give us many. We do not get quality products, because quality products don't fill the supply chain pockets. We pay for something once and we pay for it once again and again and again with frustration. We do not voice our problems strongly. We don't come together and fight back. We simply move on without taking action.

When we are given sub standard products, the retailers are saying "Hey!, I want you to take our sorrow on your shoulders". In a more deeper sense, we work for 8 hours, pay all the money we earn in those 8 hours for a product so that product serves us for couple of years, but instead that product fails in months. So again we work for 8 hours and pay for it. This is called going in DEBT!

We all are systematically being put in debt. Finance is just one part of this whole story. Is there a method to put into numbers the frustration and stress that we all go through? Is there a statistical chart that says, so and so many people have gone through so much of frustration and stress which has ultimately reduced their life expectancy? Then why are there charts showing how much profit/loss banks made? Are banks more important than our lives?
How many of us keep silent when products fail and don't give us the returns that they should have given us. If the whole supply chain is worried about their rate of return, why we as consumers are so loosely guarded about our rate of return?

In one or the other way we all are adjusting. Every middle class citizen is under stress in a direct or indirect way of manipulation and most of us are unaware. Maximum population on this planet will fall in the middle or lower middle class category. This class is the heart of economy composed of small manufacturers, repair shops, service providers etc. If this class is stressed to survive a competetion from china, how can they give quality? This is why bosses are stressed, they in turn stress the employees who have their level of contentment affected.

Capitalism has ripped out happiness from every one of us in some or the other way in varying quantity over our life time. It bloodies us in a silent way and we don't realise it. This is our modern %up capitalist world
 
That was an interesting read.

I'm not planning to work for much longer because except for having
a stuffed back I work in a large company and what I have seen there,
in my eyes is beyond belief. All to chase dollars and cut costs.


It's at the point that we have to buy our own safety gear.
I wont go into all the different things they do because I have a file of them
and it would take the rest of the thread but....
They make 1.2 mil a month and skimp on safety gear.
Pretty basic shit too.

Wages as well. There is a "bonus" put onto your hourly rate of a
few dollars. This is part of your hourly rate on paper.
With your bonus your getting say 15 dollars an hr.
All of a sudden the bonus of 3 dollars an hour isn't there for the week and its 11 dollars an hour for the whole week.

You can loose your weekly bonus for clocking in a few minutes late
or taking a sick day without ringing before work hours or
anything they want really. They seem to make the rules as they go.
And seem to pick on who they can.

To be honest I have never seen anything like it and would have
walked out ages ago but i'm in the middle of a workers comp
situation and have to wait. Luckily they know I don't put up with that shit
so I pretty much get left alone. Just biding my time really.
They could be sued for negligence at the drop of a hat.

I'm probably just going to get my pay out and go live on a
farm building drag cars and welding shit for people and going off the
grid. Have my own chooks, vegies and animals and make
my own power. Get someone to pave a 1/4 mile drag strip
and i'm laughing.

Don't think i'm built to deal with the way the worlds going.:mrgreen:
 
I guess you missed the vids of the hanging of Saddam and all of the footage from all of the wars dating back to WW1 until present.

There's plenty of christian based cruelty that can be seen on film. If anything, in most cases everything we've done is far more atrocious than a few people being beheaded. But the media would rather have you focused on a handful of people getting their heads cut off or a couple hundred people being shot/bombed than talk about how many millions of people we've blown and burnt up in the name of god and country.


I'm not defending anyone here, but both sides "do the work of the devil". And it's all thanks to the ridiculous nature of religion. Other crazy religious people seem to rely solely on their religion but we here in the US like to add nationality into the mix so it doesn't make us sound as nutty. Although there's a growing number of us that aren't fooled anymore.




All people have some crazy in them. There are extremest in ever corner of the Earth.

But WHY should we invite a large group of them into our country. Its like saying you would bang an HIV + person bareback, you know because they probably will not transmit it. When you could use a condom, or better yet pass on the situation.


And for the records the Sadam hanging was done by Muslims.

Muslims who throw gay people off of roof tops. I saw today there was a group somewhere in Texas burning a gay flag because it offends them. Lets see how the liberal idiots handle that one. One protected group attacking another protected group. I bet they blame either George Bush, or the myth of Global Warming.
 
This is the land of the free and the home of the brave! Not the land of xenophobia and home of the intimidated.

EDIT: ohh that's right, your location is not our America. It's the scared place in your own head.
 
I saw today there was a group somewhere in Texas burning a gay flag because it offends them. Lets see how the liberal idiots handle that one. One protected group attacking another protected group. I bet they blame either George Bush, or the myth of Global Warming.

That was like 6 months ago. And, in that part of town, I regularly see protesters holding signs talking shit about how god hates gays.

One group of nutjobs yelling about another group of nutjobs....:ror:
 
I will not die an unlived life.
I will not live in fear
of falling or catching fire.
I choose to inhabit my days,
to allow my living to open me,
to make me less afraid,
more accessible,
to loosen my heart
until it becomes a wing,
a torch, a promise.
I choose to risk my significance;
to live so that which came to me as seed
goes to the next as blossom
and that which came to me as blossom,
goes on as fruit.

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