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Illegal immigrants...
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hpiguy
Rock Crawler
I vote we just start calling the freeloaders imgrates. I have no issue with anyone wating to come here to work hard for a better life for them, and their family. Hell, some of the hardest working most reliable friends I've ever had were legal immigrants, or the children of said legal immigrants. And you know what? They get just as pissed off as we do over the whole thing, due to the fact they worked hard and did it the right way, and expected nothing but opportunity in return.
vonclod
Rock Crawler
Purptr8r
Rock Crawler
My grand parents came here from Ireland .. As children..My grandfather won a contest as a kid as " Americas favorite paper boy " which was really only new England's favorite lol but he worked hard and had 5 kids who all grew up contributing they all went to catholic school and even though my grandparents were not well off they wanted good educations for the kids ... He then went on to become mayor of lawerence Massachusetts and helped the youth of the city .... I'm all for immigrants doing good for America but the free benefits and crap Obama established were a joke ... Based on my salary I'd have to pay 654 bucks a month for health care bronze level with a 6000 dollar co pay ????? Yeah right .... I pay plenty of taxes and never go to the doctors so I'm paying for others to get free shit !!! Nope I'll keep paying the fine every tax season .... And further more with all the immigrants coming in the poor native Americans get less and less of their own .... Other than casinos and tax free cigarettes lol
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The Violator
RCC Addict
The US is the biggest melting pot there in on this planet. No other country takes in as many as we do. With King Obama and his open borders, instead of a boundary line, the border was a goal line. All they had to do is walk across, and free shit starts flowing.
And if they cross the line and drop an anchor baby, then its free shit for their extended family because little Juan who is 2 days old cannot be without his 47 cousins, so send them.
And King Obama was bringing in thousands of his goat ****ing brothers and dumping them on small towns. Who wants to bet the rape numbers go up in every town they go to. Look at Sweden, the new rape capitol of the world.
Liberals will sing Kumbaya while crying about building a wall, then go to their gated community home. If the wall does nothing, at least its a symbol that we tried.
And if they cross the line and drop an anchor baby, then its free shit for their extended family because little Juan who is 2 days old cannot be without his 47 cousins, so send them.
And King Obama was bringing in thousands of his goat ****ing brothers and dumping them on small towns. Who wants to bet the rape numbers go up in every town they go to. Look at Sweden, the new rape capitol of the world.
Liberals will sing Kumbaya while crying about building a wall, then go to their gated community home. If the wall does nothing, at least its a symbol that we tried.
'anchor babies'
Mike Flea
I wanna be Dave
Yep
I know somebody that works in an ER in a city where Spanish-speaking people are the majority. All the time she sees scum come in and there's one case that sticks in my head where the wife or mother was being loud and obnoxious and telling the doctor to run all of the tests because "they ain't paying for it". That's the pieces of shit that Liberals create and allow to flourish in this country. It's disgusting.
RANOVRU
Quarry Creeper
Anything that involves "illegal" I'm not a fan of. How this country has become in favor of "illegal immigration" is beyond me.
Regular by the book immigration is a different topic entirely, which I have no issue at all with.
While we're on the subject, the "plopped on our soil" laws are the most ridiculous laws ever to be conceived. Hopefully that sh!t gets sorted out too.
We have enough leeches that ARE citizens that we shouldn't have to pay for. Are there REALLY folks out there that want their tax dollars going to NON citizen leeches?
There is a right way to come into this country and become a citizen. And everyone who's DOCUMENTED (notice the lack of UN) that lives in this country has either themselves, or had family go through the process.
I do think the modern process for becoming a US citizen needs a complete revamp. You get your green card and immediately begin the "process" to citizenship. No waiting 5yrs before you can apply. No 10yr renewal for folks that have no desire to become a citizen. Either you do or you don't. If you get your GC and haven't passed the phases with in an allotted time (1-3yrs) then you're deported.
That quote that Vonclod mentioned doesn't mention anything about working, contributing or providing. Back in the day I'm sure it was taken in different context, but today all it says is "give me your lazy, your freeloading, your looking for something for nothing".
That sh!t's gotta stop.
Regular by the book immigration is a different topic entirely, which I have no issue at all with.
While we're on the subject, the "plopped on our soil" laws are the most ridiculous laws ever to be conceived. Hopefully that sh!t gets sorted out too.
We have enough leeches that ARE citizens that we shouldn't have to pay for. Are there REALLY folks out there that want their tax dollars going to NON citizen leeches?
There is a right way to come into this country and become a citizen. And everyone who's DOCUMENTED (notice the lack of UN) that lives in this country has either themselves, or had family go through the process.
I do think the modern process for becoming a US citizen needs a complete revamp. You get your green card and immediately begin the "process" to citizenship. No waiting 5yrs before you can apply. No 10yr renewal for folks that have no desire to become a citizen. Either you do or you don't. If you get your GC and haven't passed the phases with in an allotted time (1-3yrs) then you're deported.
That quote that Vonclod mentioned doesn't mention anything about working, contributing or providing. Back in the day I'm sure it was taken in different context, but today all it says is "give me your lazy, your freeloading, your looking for something for nothing".
That sh!t's gotta stop.
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NoobCrawler
Rock Stacker
Yeah, whoever wrote that one clearly needs their head examined. How did they even think that makes a lick of sense? Two people who don't belong here have a kid...oh! They belong here now.
WHITE-TRASH
I wanna be Dave
It's the most efficient way to add the voter base.
The Violator
RCC Addict
150 years ago there was no welfare system to coddle the lazy. If you did not work you did not eat. It was that simple.
vonclod
Rock Crawler
Yes, back in the day it was a given, you were coming for an opportunity for a better life by joining in and working hard...just the opportunity..up to the person to do it.
I still think many follow the sentiment but you are right, enough do not..the bad apples spoil the bunch as always.
ljparton
Newbie
I see both sides on this one.
I've got some neighbors across the street, who immigrated from Mexico. Their yard is one of the cleanest on the block. The husband fires his truck up at 6AM every morning and leaves for work, returning around 6PM.
Two doors down are some "Americans" who have the nastiest yard in the entire neighborhood, shit everywhere. Kids and dogs running wild half the time.
I don't see them do a damn thing except sit on the porch and hang out smoking Marlboros and revving their POS Silverado on 20's with airbags in the middle of the night.
If you came here for a better life, and bust your ass and pay your taxes you're A-OK in my book.
If you're lazy and milk the system, legal or otherwise I've got a problem with you.
I've got some neighbors across the street, who immigrated from Mexico. Their yard is one of the cleanest on the block. The husband fires his truck up at 6AM every morning and leaves for work, returning around 6PM.
Two doors down are some "Americans" who have the nastiest yard in the entire neighborhood, shit everywhere. Kids and dogs running wild half the time.
I don't see them do a damn thing except sit on the porch and hang out smoking Marlboros and revving their POS Silverado on 20's with airbags in the middle of the night.
If you came here for a better life, and bust your ass and pay your taxes you're A-OK in my book.
If you're lazy and milk the system, legal or otherwise I've got a problem with you.
Mopar man
Pebble Pounder
Illegal means illegal! There is a legal way to become a citizen and many people do it every year. If your illegal get the fuk out!!! And fuk these sanctuary cities. I hope all funding and aid gets cut to them and they do the right thing.
RANOVRU
Quarry Creeper
Being American isn't just about being hardworking and a good person. One of the main "other" things is understanding and respecting our law system. Someone who is putting in the effort that your Mexican neighbor is should have no issue with going through the process to become a legal citizen...UNLESS they have other intentions.
An ILLEGAL immigrant, no matter how hard working or "good" they are, is here ILLEGALLY.
Yes there will always be CITIZENS who are worthless leeches. But I submit we deal with the NON CITIZEN leeches first. And in that weeding out, the illegals that truly are decent and want to be here can have the chance to go through the proper channels to become citizens. If they're already putting out that much effort on a daily basis it shouldn't be a big deal.
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TacoCrawler
I wanna be Dave
...nope
Your thinking is flawed.
Once the USA Constitution/Governmemt became established...
immigration was enforced.
Those early folk came here with permission and were properly vetted.
And that process has been the case since then.
But that changed when the liberals decided they should control the world.
by promoting their New World Order agenda. :roll:
Even in the 70's when my Sicilian landlords wanted to move here...
with the intent on becoming USA citizens and never looking back.
Yet they were denied more then once before they were allowed.
And for simply having a common cold.
But they persevered and came here legally.
And have become a supporting fabric of the USA and its economy.
Not for their county from which they came...
But for their future and their children's future.
Imagine how they must feel about this illegal migration happening currently.
I will have to say... they are not pleased.
btw... they still retain their heritage, some cultures and celebrate that...
But they don't wave a Sicilian flag nor any other here.
Being they've become legal USA citizens...
they respect and honor the flag of this country.
And are proud to call themselves USA citizens.
pink, green or blue...
I really don't care which country folk are are coming from..
If they don't subscribe to becoming a USA citizen...
And do that legally... and are vetted properly...
then GTFO
This is not about race, creed, heritage, culture, religion, sexual orientation...
^ or any other PC BS that's fed to the public by the liberals.
Screw the liberals and their one world order agenda.
This is a corrupt thinking and is totally anti-constitutional
with a huge disregard for all of it's legal USA citizens.
A country without borders...
and legal due process of the law for allowing immigrants to enter
is a country under siege.
No other country allows for open borders and illegals to freely enter their countries and become legal citizens in their country..
Some won't even let you in unless your have money /or a skill that is valuable
to their society and the citizens whom live there.
Over stayed VISA's... those folk will be found and told to leave...
or removed by force if necessary.
It's about following and respecting the law/order of the USA.
Not solely just so an immigrant can reap the rewards/benefits of this country
and take that from its legal citizens... for what they've sown for their legal citizen children.
Bottom line... One is either a criminal or not.
Disregarding or ignoring a country's law... make one just that.
Who needs more criminals putting our US citizens in peril
just so they may promote their own radical ideals/values ? :roll:
If one is coming to the USA...
then leave your law and culture in the place you came from.
Don't come here waving your flag at US legal citizens :x
If you don't show respect to the USA flag and it's legal citizens...
then gtfo and go back to your own lands.
Nobody is saying you cannot retain your own heritage, or even culture...
But it's likely not mine... nor should I be mandated to ignore my own... in favor of someone elses.
Coming to America for improving ones life...
doesn't mean changing the USA's social culture to fit their social/cultural agenda
It means blending into the existing cultures/social fabric that already exist.
No society of people exist happily when their culture separates and isolates them into their separatist ideologies.
No single race of people have any more rights then the other.
Tho' equal rights should be demanded.
That should not occur at the expense of others rights.
This country is not every migrant's homeland to call their own.
And the USA doesn't solely exist for special interests to change the laws
that they wish to comply to /or ignore if they don't like them. :roll:
The liberals are selling out our country in order to net more taxes from bodies
and create more social control due to the fast approaching demise of our baby boomer generation.
It's meant to sustain big Government...
not for the best interest of it's citizens.
Don't be deceived and caught with yer pants around yer ankles.
Big Government is not freedom.
When the baby boomer generations have all passed...
it would've become a better life for my legal citizen son.
But that's not the case any longer.
My legal citizen son is now suffering because what would have been a better and promising future for him...
has now been destroyed... and his future is dismal to say the least.
He refuses to be manipulated/mandated by the social order of the liberal government agenda.
That is not true freedom... that is Governmental control.
Yes everyone should be educated... and we do that.
But to sell our soul for college tuition is a big liberal lie.
And no... society shouldn't be forced to pay everyone's way.
They have their own children and responsibilities of their own.
Just 50 years back... the liberals said the same thing about graduating High School.
Now they're saying the same crap about college.
And sadly... the new generation of kids have bought that BS
hook line and sinker.
Only... they want someone else to pay for their indebtedness.
Adults... raise your children in reality... not in the fantasy of
social order and Big government control.
Purdy sure the liberal Big Governments is in cahoots with the loan shark crooks who will be raking in the trillions of dollars
your children will be indebted to for years to come.
Nothing in life comes free... there will always be a catch
when you make a deal with the devil.
Don't buy into this liberal adenda/deceit.
The Federal Government is not your friend.
Just ask Thomas Jefferson. (ok he's dead... but his writings remain)
Stop this socialistic behavior before it has ruined our whole society of mixed race people.
The rudeness of people coming here and those currently here these days...
show no respect or consideration of those whom were here before them.
Course there are plenty of USA citizen arse hats here already
aside from the migrant folk that are coming now.
and Tho' it was during a USA war campaign...
John F. Kennedy said...
"Ask not what your country can do for you...
Ask what you can do for your country."
If yer not 100% behind that statement... GTFO
Thank you Trump... but yer not done yet.
Please make it once again safe for my legal citizen child
to retain the promise/hope/dream of him having a better future.
And walk safely down a public street in any neighborhood.
All the worlds children are not mine.
And the USA citizen should not be burdened with the responsibility of fixing life for every child in the world.
The prior Liberal Government should be sued
for ruining the future of my legal USA citizen child.
Stole his future right out from underneath him they did :evil:
The United States is not the world...
and USA citizens shouldn't be burdened with fixing the world.
Cowards whom flee their own country because they lack the fortitude
to stand up and rise against their own Government leaders...
Likely will do the same thing here.
While they're selling out and disregarding your constitutional rights.
pisses me off...
and it isn't any wonder that we needed a new government
and leadership that puts it's USA citizens first.
end rant ('cuz I could probably go on forever)
Mike Flea
I wanna be Dave
I couldn't have said it any better myself"thumbsup""thumbsup"
ljparton
Newbie
How about we just stop giving benefits to non-citizens, that'll in theory keep more of the "Leeches" from showing up for a free meal. If they do show up, they'll have to work for their money and benefits.
Then, we can go through and weed out the Citizens that are "leeches".
Becoming a citizen is no easy task. Costs can range from 5k-15k for a single person as often times a lawyer is necessary to get the process finished.
You need to be a resident with a "green card" for 5 years before you can even apply for Naturalization. This process can be convoluted if you don't fall into an "Eligibility Category"
Most "Americans" wouldn't even pass the Naturalization test. I've always had the opinion that you should need to pass this to receive a High School diploma.
We as citizens need to take a step back and appreciate what we were given by birth right.
Does that mean we shouldn't protect our borders? Not what I'm saying.
Should illegals that take advantage of the system be dealt with? Absolutely.
However, we shouldn't just lump all illegals into the same category and say GTFO like many are suggesting.
It takes time to become a citizen, and I haven't personally met any non-citizens that wouldn't want to become one.
It is a pretty big deal to become a citizen. It's certainly a lot more difficult than most people understand.
I have a problem with the term "illegal Immigrants", they should be called what they truly are "illegal Invaders". If they were Immigrants they would assimilate to the ways of our country and would do so LEGALLY.
As far as the "Anchor Babies" take a look at this. Anchor babies, birthright citizenship, and the 14th Amendment | immigration resources reference issues
As far as the "Anchor Babies" take a look at this. Anchor babies, birthright citizenship, and the 14th Amendment | immigration resources reference issues
