Knockoff vanquish methods on ebay???

[djjiz]

Deleting threads to support paying vendors used to be a thing but thankfully that is more relaxed these days. If it didn't change we would all be over paying for maxamps batts..

Speaking of overpaying.. Let's get back on track here

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

It's laughable how much you defend these wheels. They are a direct clone of a small US company. 99% of the people on here aren't arguing the fact that way to much **** is already imported from China. They're arguing the fact that you people are buying and defending something that is morally wrong and if done in the US would be illegal.

What's equally messed up is the fact that this thread is even allowed on here given the fact that paying vendors sell THE REAL version of these wheels.

As long as there is no local teamsters hall in China I'll gladly send my money over there. We as a country have grown fat and we need competition to keep us in check. Are these wheels half as nice as VP? Simply judging by the pictures I'd say no. I know for a fact that VP wheels are fawking jewelry and these chicom wheels are just decent cast/machined parts. I don't see anyone who was going to drop money on VP buying these instead so I think VP will be fine.


As for deleting this thread I say we as a forum are stronger knowing what's out there. Shielding the vendors does them a disservice. The world is a tough place sometimes and if you aren't innovative and producing parts that can compete then you should fail.

 

[djjiz]

You want to do a comparison Whitey? I'll ship one of each style tomorrow if you do.

I'm betting that you'll be pleasantly surprised with the quality

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

You want to do a comparison Whitey? I'll ship one of each style tomorrow if you do.

I'm betting that you'll be pleasantly surprised with the quality

If I had more on hand to compare them to I'd say yes. But all I have are craptastic plastic axial beadlocks with mostly wasted hexes it wouldn't be much of a comparo. :lol:

 

[realsickclown]

I think he said he'll send you a couple single wheels to do the comparison with?

 

[djjiz]

I only have the genuine imitations.
I'm willing to send 1 of each of the 2 styles to a reputable member for comparison.

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

I think he said he'll send you a couple single wheels to do the comparison with?

I only have the genuine imitations.
I'm willing to send 1 of each of the 2 styles to a reputable member for comparison.

An evaluation can be done with just the genuine Wang Kang phui wheels but a comparison takes something g to compare them to or against.

If you want a simple evaluation then I can do that.

 

[djjiz]

Don't be getting all scientific and shit on me. You know i don't like educations.

Pm your address and I'll send an 8 hole and a whatever the other one is.

Same goes for someone with a real VP wheel.

 

[WHITE-TRASH]

:lol:

I have a buddy with a set of VP methods so I'll compare as well as evaluate.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

It's laughable how much you defend these wheels. They are a direct clone of a small US company. 99% of the people on here aren't arguing the fact that way to much **** is already imported from China. They're arguing the fact that you people are buying and defending something that is morally wrong and if done in the US would be illegal.

What's equally messed up is the fact that this thread is even allowed on here given the fact that paying vendors sell THE REAL version of these wheels.

I will gladly send you tissues to wipe your tears.

By the way, copying a product isn't always illegal especially if no patent exists.

China sells motorcycles in the US that are direct copies of Hondas. Nobody is stopping them. Like it or not, copying is part of the new world.

If the paying vendor sold their product at a reasonable price then the chinese copy wouldn't sell.

I might buy a few sets of VP hubs if they made them for metric hardware.

Exactly! Products with inflated prices seem to be the ones that are cloned first.

As long as there is no local teamsters hall in China I'll gladly send my money over there. We as a country have grown fat and we need competition to keep us in check. Are these wheels half as nice as VP? Simply judging by the pictures I'd say no. I know for a fact that VP wheels are fawking jewelry and these chicom wheels are just decent cast/machined parts. I don't see anyone who was going to drop money on VP buying these instead so I think VP will be fine.


As for deleting this thread I say we as a forum are stronger knowing what's out there. Shielding the vendors does them a disservice. The world is a tough place sometimes and if you aren't innovative and producing parts that can compete then you should fail.

Hell yeah! **** Unions!

A set of Vanquish 1.9 8-hole wheels with SLW hubs is $180. That doesn't include shipping. My set of Fanquish 8-hole wheels with SLW hubs were $44 shipped. That's 1/4 the price of Vanquish wheels. There's no way Vanquish wheels are 75% better. I understand cast isn't the same as machined. But they both look pretty and they both work well. And you know what? After some hard trail runs with my driving style, pretty wheels don't look pretty. I'm extremely happy to have this bargain wheel.

 

[Ditchrat]

It's laughable how much you defend these wheels. They are a direct clone of a small US company. 99% of the people on here aren't arguing the fact that way to much **** is already imported from China. They're arguing the fact that you people are buying and defending something that is morally wrong and if done in the US would be illegal.

What's equally messed up is the fact that this thread is even allowed on here given the fact that paying vendors sell THE REAL version of these wheels.

You have a valid point, but I wondered so I looked.

The patent for an aluminum ring retaining a rubber wheel to a rim, referred to a beadlock is currently in effect.

Are the scale manufactures infringing this patent? Now I don't claim to know nor do I have the interest in educating myself about patent law. However it seems to me a little on the funny side that any company would complain about another company copying their idea, when the whole concept of a beadlock might be someone else's property to begin with.

I am not claiming this is the case, but simply putting it out there to ponder.

On that note, and I can not resist.

Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?

 

[gbean]

I will gladly send you tissues to wipe your tears.

By the way, copying a product isn't always illegal especially if no patent exists.

China sells motorcycles in the US that are direct copies of Hondas. Nobody is stopping them. Like it or not, copying is part of the new world.


Exactly! Products with inflated prices seem to be the ones that are cloned first.


Hell yeah! **** Unions!

A set of Vanquish 1.9 8-hole wheels with SLW hubs is $180. That doesn't include shipping. My set of Fanquish 8-hole wheels with SLW hubs were $44 shipped. That's 1/4 the price of Vanquish wheels. There's no way Vanquish wheels are 75% better. I understand cast isn't the same as machined. But they both look pretty and they both work well. And you know what? After some hard trail runs with my driving style, pretty wheels don't look pretty. I'm extremely happy to have this bargain wheel.

I think you mean 400% better.

 

[Eric0424]

You have a valid point, but I wondered so I looked.

The patent for an aluminum ring retaining a rubber wheel to a rim, referred to a beadlock is currently in effect.

Are the scale manufactures infringing this patent? Now I don't claim to know nor do I have the interest in educating myself about patent law. However it seems to me a little on the funny side that any company would complain about another company copying their idea, when the whole concept of a beadlock might be someone else's property to begin with.

I am not claiming this is the case, but simply putting it out there to ponder.

On that note, and I can not resist.

Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?

The wheel patent in on spoke and/or wheel face design, not the external locking ring or general beadlock type wheels. A specific spoke/wheel face design is the intellectual property of the designer, whether it's a single person or a design team. This may also apply to a unique design lock ring pattern.

With tires they're patenting the tread design, not a round, hollow, air-filled chunk of rubber. You can't patent a general product (tire, wheel), but you can patent certain aspects (tread, spokes/face) of those products.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

I think you mean 400% better.

LOL yes, I did! :lmao: Thanks for catching that "duh!" moment.

 

[LockedupTJ]

Placed my order for a set of the methods just now! Now if the Voodoo KLR Golds would come back in stock....

 

[OfnaJoe]

does anybody have a pic of the Vanquish wheel and a copy side by side ?

 

[AngelowDoom]

 

[Cavedave_185]

I really struggle with paying that much money for VP wheels. My 1/1 truck wheels cost about the same as four of those 1.9 wheels. I'll buy Chinese all day long when the 2.2s come out


Raising boys into RealMen!!

 

[Terrible1]

I really struggle with paying that much money for VP wheels. My 1/1 truck wheels cost about the same as four of those 1.9 wheels. I'll buy Chinese all day long when the 2.2s come out


Raising boys into RealMen!!

FYI, they're now available.

 

[danmac]

I don't have to front I'm too poor for vp. But I will blow the money for a few sets of these.