NIRC Trail Class Event 9.25.11

[sally1800]

Rules:

Class-1 Street
• Description - A Street Legal off-road vehicle that you would drive to work and the trail head and outfit like an expedition vehicle such as the Camel Trophy truck D90 rigs.

Class-2 Trail
• Description - A stock vehicle that has been modified to become a capable trail rated rig and is not necessarily street legal .

Class-3 Modified
• Description - An off-road vehicle that you would build from the ground up and might see in a TTC/KOH type competition.


General Vehicle Details
• There is a Minimum and Maximum for scale points, you are encouraged to go above and beyond the max to make your truck as scale as possible, but the points applied to your final score will be capped.
• Scale points above the minimum will be deducted from there competitors overall score
• You cannot run the same vehicle in multiple classes, and multiple drivers cannot drive the same truck in any class
• Vehicles must resemble a real 1:1 rig and it will be up to the collective group to vote on whether a questionable rig is accepted or not.
• Tire size will be determined by advertised manufacturer specs. (tires without available specs will be measured off the truck as mounted on the wheel laid flat)
•Tire modification:
Class-1 Street. No tire modification is allowed.
Class-2 Trail. Tire lugs may be removed, sipped, grooved and/or trimmed.
Class-3 Modified. Tire reduction and narrowing is permitted, as well as all modifications listed above.
• You must run a rail chassis (for example: Bruiser/Mountaineer, SCX-10, Reign RC K2-3S, 3L, 4, 5, MFM, X-Trail, CR-01, UTE, etc...) No TVP (twin vertical plate) chassis' or frame rail extensions on a TVPs. The exception to this rule is the Tamiya CC-01 or TA-02 ,(Hummer, S-10, Ford F-150 and Toyota Hilux)and Modified class Tubers.
• 4 wheel steering or dig is allowed in modified class only (must choose 1 per course)
• No "Motor On Axle" (MOA) of any kind. Your axles must be driven by one transmission or transfer case and a minimum of two drive shafts (except CC‐01, TA ‐02 etc..). No separate throttle control of drive shafts or axles.
• There are no Wheel distinctions. For example you can run a 1.55, 1.9, 2.0 or 2.2 rim in any class. Wheels larger than 2.2 are not allowed in any class and no Short course style wheels 1.9/2.2 split diameters Unless it is voted at the event. Cole you got my vote. ;-)

• Spare Tires must be within 1/4" Diameter of Drive tires to receive points
• Any functional recovery tools you wish to use during your run, you must carry it on your rig at all times. IE tow strap, pull pal and, sand ladders.
• Winching can only be performed off of natural objects (i.e. trees, rocks, ect...), other vehicles or stakes supplied by the course maker. Winching off of a person such as there shoe or hand is not allowed.
• All vehicles without an enclosed cab must have the motor, transmission, and electronics covered and hidden when viewed from the top and sides. Batteries must be chassis mounted and also hidden from view.
• Course will be tough and made to push the scale vehicle limits. This is to encourage competitors to improve there rigs from one event to another.
• Winches are HIGHLY recommended!!!!! Expect to use a winch.
• Water proofing is HIGHLY recommended!!!!! Expect your rig to get wet.


Tire Ban List
• Losi Claws (all sizes, and types)
• Hot Bodies Rovers (all sizes)
• Hot Bodies Sedonas
• HPI Rock Grabbers
• Panther Cougars
• Panther Leopards
• Pro-Line Chisels (all sizes)
• RC4WD Rocklin
• RC4WD X-Locks (all sizes)
• RC4WD Crazy Crawlers
• Imex Red Rocks
• Imex Skulls and Bones
• Losi Bashers

Tires should be scale appearing, if it is questionable have it reviewed before the event, or plan to run a different tire.

As new competition specific tires are released this list may be updated.

Class-1 Street General Details

• 15 Min. Scale Points Required with a cap of 60
• Vehicle must have a windshield that fills the entire windshield frame
• Full width bumpers are required on the front and rear of the vehicle. Bumpers that are molded into the body qualify. A rear bumper is not required on a flatbed, but adding one to the flatbed will gain the additional scale points. (Bumpers are measured from the outsides and must be the width of your windshield).
• Wheels must be aligned within the body wheel wells (center of wheels to center of wheel wells +/- 1/2 inch total combined)
• The vehicles body must be mostly intact. Mild trimming such as flairs & removing a hardtop allowed only. If hardtop is removed full interior is required. (no extreme trimming of bodies allowed See below.)
• The tread of the tires cannot extend outside of the wheel wells more then 1/2 of the tread width, flairs can be added to reach min. spec.
• Vehicle must run a full length rail chassis (The rail chassis must be as long as the vehicles wheelbase)(Tamiya CC-01 Chassis are allowed)
• Truggies are not allowed, flatbeds with full length rail chassis are allowed. The bed must be as wide as the cab the entire length of the bed. Cab only not allowed.
• Tires can never extend beyond the body’s bumpers or the rear of any truck bed. (Any stingers, fairleads, shackles, bolts, etc are not considered part of a bumper when determining this.)
• Dovetailing is not allowed.
• Sectioning or narrowing of the body is not allowed.
• Bobbing a truck bed is allowed, but must follow All body specs
• Boat sides are not allowed.
• 106mm / 4.19" Max tire size including spares
• Gates will be a minimum of 11" wide (so mind your width)


Class-2 Trail General Details

• 15 Min. Scale Points Required with a Max of 50
• The inside of the front tires cannot extend outside of the width of the cab at the doors
• The body (including bumpers) must be 3" longer than the wheelbase
• A front bumper is required and must be mounted to vehicles rail chassis and wider the the chassis (chassis cross rails do not count as bumpers)
• Vehicle must run a full length rail chassis (The rail chassis must be as long as the vehicles wheelbase extensions are legal for bumpers as long as the chassis meets other specs)
• Truggies are allowed, but must have a rail chassis up too the rear of the skid minimum. The truggy structure must extend to the back of the rear axles pumpkin or beyond to be legal.
• Flatbeds that run the full length of the rail chassis are allowed. The bed must be as wide as the cab the entire length of the bed.
• 2 of the 3 following modifications are allowed
- Dovetailing the rear (a truggy/tube bed that is narrower than the cab counts as dovetail).
- Boat sides (no more then 1" measured vertically)
- Pinching the front (2/3 the width of the widest part of the cab)
• Sectioning or narrowing of the body is not allowed
• Body / Cage work must be at least 4.5" tall (including boat sides) and wider then the inside measurement of the vehicles track width (front or rear, whichever is wider).
• 120mm / 4.75" max tire size with a 2.2 max rim size including spare
• Gates will be a minimum of 12" wide (so mind your width)

Class-3 Modified General Details

• 10 Min. Scale Points Required with a Max of 50
• 146mm / 5.75" max tire size with a 2.2 max rims size including spare
• A bumper is not required, but to be counted for points, must be mounted to vehicles chassis and wider the the chassis (chassis cross rails do not count as bumpers)
• Gates will be a minimum of 13" wide
• All bodies (Including tubers) must measure a minimum of five inches wide from front to rear of door, measure a minimum of 4.5 inches tall as measured from the skid to the tallest point on the body and must be as long as the vehicles wheelbase
• Body modifications including, but not limited to, pinched front, dove-tailing and boat-siding are permitted as long as the final dimensions comply with the minimum size rules.

Attention:!!!!!!!

I need each drive to have a sheet ready with you scale points. No sheet no points

 

[sally1800]

Scale Points


Scale points are to be awarded on a per course basis at 50% of a vehicles total value (rounded down if necessary).
Minimum/Maximum values are to be determined by the event organizers.

Bed :
• Tube bed OR Flat Bed: metal -3, plastic -1
• Bed mounted headache rack or roll bar: metal -2 Plastic -1

Truggy & back halved truck
•Truggy/back halved truck: metal -4, plastic -2
(Must replace the ladder frame from the rear of the skid Min. to the back of the rear axles pumpkin or beyond to be legal.. Must have a roll bar hoop. Must have integrated shock mounts. Must be a structural part of the rear of the vehicle. (If your bed does not meet ALL of the preceding criteria, it does not count as a truggy bed)).

Tuber: metal -8, plastic -4
A tuber consists of a complete body structure where the front, cab, and rear sections are comprised entirely of structural tubework.
• Rigid Metal/plastic body panels -1

Interior cage or exo-cage: (-3 metal -1 Plastic) per row of seats protected. (Must have down bars and cross bars in front & behind each row.)

Tube accessories
• Sliders: (both sides) metal -3, plastic -1
• Tube fenders: Metal -1 per pair
• Integrated tube shock mounts: metal -1 (per pair)

Body
• Hard body: full -8, Cab -4
• Drop bed : -3
• Complete Custom built body: (metal or hard plastic, no lexan) full -4, Cab -2 (in addition to hard body points)
• Inner fender wells: -1 per pair

Bumpers (items must be chassis mounted and separate from the body)
• Bumpers : metal -3 each , plastic -1 each
• Stinger/grill guard: -1
• Spare tire carrier (must be bumper mounted): -1

Exterior roof rack / light bar (may only choose one)
• roof rack: metal: -2, plastic -1
• Roof top light bar : metal -1

Interior:
• 3D interior: 2 seat -3, 4 seat -4, SUV cargo area -1.
• 2D/half interior: 2 seat -1, 4 seat -2.
• Realistic Scale Human figures: full(knees up) -2, part -1(torso up) (max 2 figures)

Suspension/Drive train/Steering:
• Leaf springs (front/rear): -3 ea, -7 both.
• Multiple axles: 3 driven axles -3, 4 (or more) driven axles -5
• Chassis mounted steering servo: -5 (front) rear -2 (Class 3 only)
• Transfer case: -4.
• 3D engine: -4.

Realistic exterior items (max -6 pts): Items that are non functional but you would see on a trail truck
• Fuel cell, exhaust, jerry can, hubs on all wheels, steering stabilizer, disc/drum brakes on all wheels, mirrors(2), wipers(2), antenna, license plate, Fire extinguisher, trail tools (Hi-lift jack, etc.)first aid, Etc. -1 each

Functional items (max -8 pts):
• Tow strap, -D-ring, Pull Pal, sand ladder, hitch, Etc. -1 each
• Headlights(2) and taillights(2) -2
• Winch -2 Each
• Full size spare tire. -3

 

[sally1800]

Course points and Penalties

Points
Progress: -2 points
Reverse: 1 point
Gate Marker: 10 points
Rollover: 5 points
Boundary Marker: 10 points
Vehicle Touch (Repair & Repositions): 10 points
Course Direction: 10 points
Winch: 1 point
Assisted Recovery: 10 points
Dig/Rear steer: 5 points
Did not finish point out +20 points
Did not start point out +50 points

Back Up/ Reverse: (1 pt) point is given when a vehicle reverses course after making forward progress. Reversing is defined as at any time if any of the tires move the vehicle backward or spin in the reverse direction, whether engaged or in freewheel and/or whether intentional or not. Once a reverse penalty is given, no further reverse penalty can be given until the vehicle makes forward progress. No penalty is given if the backward movement is part of a penalized rollover. If a driver begins a course in reverse, a reverse penalty will occur immediately.

Rollover: (5pts) Points are given when a vehicle rolls over and cannot be corrected without touching. Once the vehicle has stopped it may be rolled back onto it's wheels and a 5 point penalty shall be given. Vehicles that land back on their wheels without assistance are not penalized. No reverse penalties will be awarded until the vehicle is righted. The vehicle may at no time be lifted, slid or moved in any way other than a smooth, continuous roll to the left or right side only. Any other manipulation or movement of the vehicle will be considered a Vehicle Touch.

Vehicle Touch: (10 pts) All vehicle touches excluding “Rollovers”, "Winching", "Assisted Recoveries"(see associated rules) , intentional or unintentional, are given an automatic 10 points. The judge then will stop time when either the driver calls for a vehicle touch or the judge calls a driver touch. The vehicle is then moved back by the driver to the previously cleared gate with the rear axle aligned to that gate. If the vehicle cannot be aligned to the gate due to course design, the judge will reposition the vehicle to the next stable location after the cleared gate. This location will be used for all drivers. Note: All gates for progress are still “live” unless a gate has already been deemed “dead”.

Vehicle Touches: include but are not limited to: repairs, repositions, vehicle driving/falling into the driver.

On Course Repairs: (Touch 10pts) Must be completed on course and in the spot of which the driver decided to take the repair. Repairs must be made within the course time, while the course timer will continue to run. If repairs are made
within the course time the driver must return to the last previous gate cleared. If repairs cannot be made within the course time, the driver is given a DNF minus progress points for that course. There are no restrictions on whom or how the repairs are made.

Off course repairs: (Touch 10pts) A driver can call time to make an off course repair. Repairs should be completed within 30 minutes, or the driver is given a DNF minus progress points. If the repair is made in the
allotted time the driver must return to the last previous gate cleared. A 1 minute time penalty will be subtracted from the time that is left on that course, the timer will continue once the vehicle makes forward progress

Reposition: (10 pts) the vehicle will be placed with it's rear tires in the last gate progressed or ,the nearest stable location after the last cleared gate if the last gate cleared is unstable.


Gate Marker: (10 pts each) each gate will be comprised of 2 gate markers. Points are given when all wheels do not travel between gate markers or any part of the vehicle, driver, a tow strap or winch line touches a gate marker. A gate marker will remain "live" for the entire duration of the attempt on the course. Once any gate marker has been touched or straddled, no more penalties will be given for that gate marker. Only when a gate penalty is assessed will that gate marker be deemed "dead". No further penalties will be assessed at this point for that gate marker.

Boundary Marker: (10 pts each) Points are given when any part of the vehicle touches a boundary marker. Once a boundary marker is touched the judge then will stop time, and the vehicle is then moved back by the driver
to the previously cleared gate with the rear axle aligned to that gate. If the vehicle cannot be aligned to the gate due to course design, the judge will reposition the vehicle to the next stable location after the cleared gate. This location will be used for all drivers. A boundary marker will remain "live" for the entire duration of the attempt on the course, and should be replaced if moved. Boundary markers are not required in the design of a course.

DNF (Did Not Finish): (Point out +20 pts) are given anytime a driver cannot complete a course for any reason. (Time expired, Point-Out, Vehicle not repairable, Went Home …etc) Progress points are awarded for each gate completed and Scale points are awarded.

DNS (Did Not Start): (Point out +50 pts) are given anytime a driver cannot start a course for any reason. Vehicle must start course under its own power. No Scale points will be awarded to this course.

Progress bonus: (-2 progress point) shall be awarded to drivers for each gate that is cleared by the vehicle during the attempt of a course. A gate is considered cleared and a progress bonus shall be given when at least one front and one rear tire passes completely through the gate in the intended direction of the gate. All tires must pass completely through the gate to receive the progress bonus without a gate penalty. A 10 point gate penalty shall be given if all tires do not clear the gate, even if no gate marker is touched or straddled. The tires of the vehicle must travel completely through the gate, and not just break the plane of the gate. Tires must pass through the gate in the same direction and in the same attempt before a progress bonus is awarded. These points are deducted from the total course score. Once a driver has pointed out, no further Progress Points will be awarded.

Course Direction: (10 pts) Gates must be cleared in their intended direction and sequence. Any part of the vehicle entering an non-cleared gate in the wrong direction, or driven through out of sequence will result in a 10 point penalty. The judge will stop time. The vehicle is then moved back to the previously cleared gate (see reposition rule) Once the gate is cleared and awarded progress it can be traveled in any sequence or direction.

Winching: (1 pt each) A winch penalty will be assessed every time the winch cable is connected for a pull. If the winch line comes unhooked during a pull, or a 2nd attachment is needed, another penalty will be assessed. If at any time during the process of removing recovery tools and/or winch line from vehicle, the vehicle is moved by any force other than it's winch or it's own power, a touch penalty will be assessed and the vehicle repositioned to the last cleared gate (see Vehicle touch rule).

Assisted Recovery: (10 pts) At any time during the course, a driver may call for an assisted recovery. With the clock running, another vehicle will be brought onto the course to pull or winch the stranded vehicle to safety. The stranded vehicle shall not be pulled beyond the original position of the rescuing vehicle or it will result in another Assisted Recovery penalty.

Dig/Rear Steer (Class 3 only): (5 pts) Dig and rear steer are both legal in Class 3, but only one may be used per course. The first use of dig or rear steer will incur a +5 point penalty; subsequent uses of the same feature (dig or rear steer) on the same course are free. Use of the other feature is prohibited. If at any time on the same course the driver uses rear steer after using dig, or uses dig after using rear steer, a reposition penalty will be incurred, and the truck will be placed at the last cleared gate.

Safety Time Out: A driver may call for time to stop so that he or she may safely reposition themselves on the course. This time shall be used for the purpose of driver safety and may not be used to survey the course or for any other advantage. Once the competitor is repositioned the time will start, however the judge has the right to start time at any point.

Vehicle Out of Spec: If the Judge has reason to believe a vehicle is out of spec during a course run, he may call time to stop. At that point no additional inputs maybe given by the driver to the vehicle via touch or radio
control. The Judge must mark the vehicle’s location and perform a tech inspection in the specified tech area (same manner as all other tech inspections). If the vehicle has been deemed within spec, the driver and vehicle will return to the location marked by the judge and the clock will start once again. If the vehicle is now out of spec and the Judge has determined that the vehicle has gained an advantage, the driver must take a repair to correct the problem. If the problem can not be corrected to bring the vehicle back within spec, the driver will receive a DNF for that course. If a vehicle falls out of spec due to breakage on course and the Judge determines the driver has not gained an advantage, then the driver may be allowed to continue on course without stopping time and requiring a tech inspection. Bodies, and body panels are not included in this exception, and must be replaced immediately, standard repair procedures and penalties apply.

 

[Mega Fattie]

Time and location please?

Also what is the actual comp? Define a trail class event, and what we would be doing please.

 

[sally1800]

Time and location please?

Also what is the actual comp? Define a trail class event, and what we would be doing please.

Check in 9:30 start 10:00

 

[sally1800]

Meet at the Barn. easy

 

[sally1800]

Also what is the actual comp? Define a trail class event, and what we would be doing please.

We will be setting up a few courses threw a trail. "Trail Event" Trying to add some bridges and log to cross over. There is not much rock. MOst people that have been to the TTC or G6 have been on some of these trails. But we will be starting a different location.

 

[Mega Fattie]

Sounds good to me. I will be 100% ready by the 25th.

 

[johnnyh66]

I'll be 63% ready :mrgreen:

 

[Die-Laughing]

I guess I'll have to fix my driveshaft. I dont think front wheel drive rigs are very competitive. :roll:

 

[sally1800]

I guess I'll have to fix my driveshaft. I dont think front wheel drive rigs are very competitive. :roll:

Maybe some one will have one to use.

 

[Die-Laughing]

Maybe some one will have one to use.

Its cool, I have a couple extra. I'll be there!

 

[Mega Fattie]

I guess I'll have to fix my driveshaft. I dont think front wheel drive rigs are very competitive. :roll:

We need to redo your class 2 rig. MIP shafts, new RX in it it, build a new bumper, build a new truggy rear end, new body. Done!

 

[WarTrader]

How hard should I work on waterproofing ??

 

[sally1800]

How hard should I work on waterproofing ??

I only balloon my receiver. But I really am not push threw a lot of water at this event

 

[S ARR T 8]

Sorry guys wont beabel to make it I have my daughter b day party at noon Make sure you take plenty of pics some video would be nce to

 

[johnnyh66]

She should have her party in the middle of the woods "thumbsup"

 

[Mega Fattie]

Sorry guys wont beabel to make it I have my daughter b day party at noon Make sure you take plenty of pics some video would be nce to

My camera also shoots HD video, but im no videographer.

 

[badhoopty]

i'll try my darndest to make it, but i think work and home chores are going to win... i doubt ill even get the time to drop my updated ring&pinions in my jeep...

 

[sally1800]

My camera also shoots HD video, but im no videographer.

I just upgraded to a Cannon T2I 8)