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Novak Crawler Review/ Tech thread

This sucks, i just received mine, it's sitting in front of me, and i can't open it because i don't know if it's the revised version or not:x , i also never got a response from my e-mail:roll: :x , i'am calling them right now:!:
 
right now as the revised edition isnt official i would not send a crawler system back expecting to get a revised edition. it sure would be nice though to hear some official good news on this not so crawleresque crawler system
 
Novak is a HUGE company that makes MANY products. The crawlers segment of their market is not as big as, say, the touring car market. They have assured me that the revised systems will be available soon, how soon, I can't tell you. That's why I suggested everyone wait until they announce it. ;-)
 
Rockpiledriver said:
As far as when it will be released is entirely up to Novak. I can tell you this. DO NOT attempt to drive this system in water without either a ballon, box, or some form of water proofing. I asked them if enclosing the ESC would create
too much heat and they said they doubt it.

thort so. i wouldnt want to blow 250usd in one go. how does the motor like water?
 
cartronicshn said:
This sucks, i just received mine, it's sitting in front of me, and i can't open it because i don't know if it's the revised version or not:x , i also never got a response from my e-mail:roll: :x , i'am calling them right now:!:

I was told that if I am not satisfied with the system I could send it back to be re-programed with the new software. I will also say that I drove my crawler today, and never had the LRD kick in, but I am running a slipper. I found a setting on the slipper where it will slip as soon as the motor is about to bind, and it never stalls. The slipper just does its job and slipps, and I can usually get out of the bind like that. The motor hase VERY LITTLE drag brake, but It hasnt bothered me. I am pleased with the system, now that I am running Revo spec axles. I would run it, because you may like it the way it is.
 
Are you guys with the LRD kicking in on you running a slipper. The only time my LRD has kicked in with the slipper was when I was trying to see how slow I could get the motor to spin with the wheels off the ground, but the wheels weren't moving when the LRD kicked in. But like I said my slipper eliminated the LRD problem when crawling, when the truck binds up, the slipper will slip and you can hear the motor slow down like it might stall and have the LRD kick in, but it hasn't yet. But when I was just running the spur addapter I had the LRD kick in a few times when crawling in the house, I was also breaking axles too.
 
TMXONR said:
I was told that if I am not satisfied with the system I could send it back to be re-programed with the new software. I will also say that I drove my crawler today, and never had the LRD kick in, but I am running a slipper. I found a setting on the slipper where it will slip as soon as the motor is about to bind, and it never stalls. The slipper just does its job and slipps, and I can usually get out of the bind like that. The motor hase VERY LITTLE drag brake, but It hasnt bothered me. I am pleased with the system, now that I am running Revo spec axles. I would run it, because you may like it the way it is.

Just so everyone is clear here, you have the older version of software. ;-)

The drag/hold brake in the new software is stonger than any other brushless system I have used.
 
well i don't have a phone# to call them so i sent them another e-mail, hopefully i will get an answer this time, i haven't even opened the damn box, it just sits there staring at me:x , if someone has a ph# please pm me.
 
they have a contact number on the site
Novak Customer Service Hours:
Hours: Monday-Friday: 8:00 am – 5:00 pm (Pacific Standard Time)
Telephone: 949-833-8873
Fax: 949-833-1631
Email cs@teamnovak.com
Address: 17032 Armstrong Ave., Irvine, CA 92614
 
thanks for the # i just called them, the customer service guy wasn't much help, all he said is i got the non revised version and to ship it back:roll: , he also said that he answers every e-mail for novak, what a joke:x , i guess i'am stuck with this piece of crap, i'am not going to spend another $60 to ship it back:-(
 
just how bad is the crawler system? ill be using it for mainly rocky trails, rocks. should i wait for the revised one and get a 35t motor for now?
 
brendan h said:
just how bad is the crawler system? ill be using it for mainly rocky trails, rocks. should i wait for the revised one and get a 35t motor for now?

If you are not going to compete, but it!

I love the system for "bashin".

It has tons of power and is smooth as silk.

If you do get it you might want to stock up on spare axles and pinions.

I'm still waiting on my unit to return from Novak (updated) and I really miss it. I hate my 55 turn brushed. It has less than 1/2 the power of the Novak.

DE
 
If you crawl in competitions where lots of prep and hold time is needed, the update helps a lot.

Simply send in your system and we'll update and return. Nothing changes but the operation of the system, setup and programming are the same. The drag brake is much stronger, and the LRD is a non issue for sure.

I'm sorry if you're having trouble getting through email, or if we're a joke, we try as hard as we can do answer all the questions that we get. Some tiems replies won't go through, we get stuck in filters or your email gets stuck in our filter.

The Tech line is Tech@teamnovak.com. I check my filter more then once a day. CS maybe not so much, they have more "stuff" to do in a day.

You can always call and leave a tech call back message. 949-833-8873 press one for Customer Service and Tech Support. Normal Tech hours are now 9-10:30 and 3-4:30.

You can send your Crawler into us from NY for $12 using UPS Ground services.

Thanks Guys
Charlie@teamnovak.com
 
Do not buy it until the problem is fixed. Even if you do not compete you will regret it the first 20 foot drop off a rock it causes:shock:

brendan h said:
just how bad is the crawler system? ill be using it for mainly rocky trails, rocks. should i wait for the revised one and get a 35t motor for now?
 
lol. i want power but dont want to change diffs every time:lol: :shock: im just after something that can go threw mud and water and get the mud flying everywhere"thumbsup" i live in australia so i cant just send it back to novak as it would cost a lot. when is the updated one coming out?
 
Charlie said:
If you crawl in competitions where lots of prep and hold time is needed, the update helps a lot.

Simply send in your system and we'll update and return. Nothing changes but the operation of the system, setup and programming are the same. The drag brake is much stronger, and the LRD is a non issue for sure.

I'm sorry if you're having trouble getting through email, or if we're a joke, we try as hard as we can do answer all the questions that we get. Some tiems replies won't go through, we get stuck in filters or your email gets stuck in our filter.

The Tech line is Tech@teamnovak.com. I check my filter more then once a day. CS maybe not so much, they have more "stuff" to do in a day.

You can always call and leave a tech call back message. 949-833-8873 press one for Customer Service and Tech Support. Normal Tech hours are now 9-10:30 and 3-4:30.

You can send your Crawler into us from NY for $12 using UPS Ground services.

Thanks Guys
Charlie@teamnovak.com
Why doesn't novak just offer it already modded, it is only a software upgrade, right? why keep selling the system if you will have people sending it back? it's my fault for ordering the system without really finding out that the update version was not really out for sale, but i did send an e-mail for customer support even before it was shipped and i never got an answer, i don't live in the u.s. so for me shipping it back would cost me another $50-60 for an already expensive system:x , so right know i had the sytem for almost 10 days and it's still in it's package because i have no idea how novak can help me out here, i even called customer support and asked for tech, and the guy said that he also handled tech but gave no real help.
Oh yeah sorry, welcome to the board.
 
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Hello,

It was released, a few hundred shipped out and sold, then we learned of this issue.

Initialy Stu was nice enough to test for us, he was the only one, and did express the need for a much stronger hold type brake in the very beginning.

At that stage, our engineers did not know they could make the hold brake work in the fashion that the update does. We thought it would damage things, or simply would not be consistent enough to use.

He worked on it for a few weeks, after we spoke with RCP guys, and Jason in GA, we learned what we needed to do. As it turns out, the engineers tried a few things that worked, and we are where we are now.

We called in all the systems that we could and updated them from the Distributors. Unfortunately there is no way the Distributors will provide all their customer's names that purchased this. So, we're stuck with having customers send the systems in for update.

If you send it in UPS from NY to California, it's at the most $10-12. From Canada, "standard" UPS is between $10-25.

I'm sorry that you're not pleased with this situation, but unfortunately there wasn't much we could do about it.

Crawling is taking off and we want to get our foots in the door with the right system. If you have one that isn't updated, JUST EMAIL ME DIRECTLY and we'll get it sorted out. THAT IS ALWAYS THE CASE no matter wha the problem.

A few guys on here were privvy to information before it was made public, I cannot answer all questions posed to me with the "truth" as it causes EXACTLY what is happening here. This is a big part of WHY WE NEVER have tested outside the offices. Guys leak. The leak makes one guy mad and BAM, here we are.

At the time you emailed me with your questions, NOTHING official was being done. We had only started to work on it. That was IT. I didn't know if it would work, nor could I tell a customer, "Something" is in the works, if in fact it would have "never worked". Run around comes to mind there. The engineers were testing ONE UNIT with ONE PERSON, that was IT. That was not enough for me to Say, Yes, There is a new crawler software in the works. That just goes against everyting Customer Service Experience would allow me to do. Until it's official, available, and working for EVERYONE, tech support and customer service shouldn't even know about it. Had you emailed me the same question now, the answer would be totally different. As we have an official fix that works well.

Things take time. I used to think the same way, Why not just recall, or post on the website or, make an announcement. If only business was that easy.... :)

We can resolve this, send in your system, I'll updated it and send it back. We're not going to charge you for return shipping, just send it in. Where does it cost $50-60 to ship it in. YOu don't have to Next Day Air, had you sent it ground already, it would probably be on its way back to you now. I don't know what else can be done..... I'm open to suggestions. NO we won't ship out parts to update yourself.

If you wanted to open it and try it, you'll know what system you have right away. Novak's warranty is Directly through us, so you don' thave to worry about your packaging. :)

Thanks Guys
 
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Charlie, i know about bussiness, i have owned a couple of them for over 15 years, i understand what you are saying, but please re read what i said earlier, i admit i screwed up jumping the gun, i did however ask for cs before the thing was even shipped,i asked if the system was the revised edition and i didn't get an answer, i didn't buy this system a few months ago when the revised edition was only rumors, i bought it a couple of weeks ago, also i don't live in the states, if i would have to ship to you it would run me around $60 bucks, hell to mail an envelope i just paid $15:shock: , here is where my problem lays.
 
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