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You dont have to pay extra anymore for the virtual terminal unless you want to be able to enter them yourself manually. When they checkout now, they can just use a CC with no paypal account....I guess its been like that for a while now, but paypal didn't tell anyone already paying the $30 a month...I turned mine off about 10 months ago, people still use CC just fine. Paypal still handles all the security stuff, so no issues about CC info getting hacked from your site...

And there is no such thing as a bad ass CC processor....they are all crooks. For the amount of volume you will do, you won't even be a blip on the radar.


Seems to be over complicating something for no reason...

While paypal isn't perfect, wait to you deal with a CC processor when something goes wrong....will make paypal look like a cakewalk.

Later EddieO
 
You dont have to pay extra anymore for the virtual terminal unless you want to be able to enter them yourself manually. When they checkout now, they can just use a CC with no paypal account....I guess its been like that for a while now, but paypal didn't tell anyone already paying the $30 a month...I turned mine off about 10 months ago, people still use CC just fine. Paypal still handles all the security stuff, so no issues about CC info getting hacked from your site...

And there is no such thing as a bad ass CC processor....they are all crooks. For the amount of volume you will do, you won't even be a blip on the radar.


Seems to be over complicating something for no reason...

While paypal isn't perfect, wait to you deal with a CC processor when something goes wrong....will make paypal look like a cakewalk.

Later EddieO

I'm wanting to get away from page redirects, unless you pay the $30 a month you have to redirect away from your store to a paypal payment page. The quicker and more painless a check out is, there will be less incompleted sales.

As for the CC processor, to make my life extremely easy and have a fully pci compliant system. $80ish a month will give me a very nice setup. The customer will enter their credit card # directly on the checkout page, they can save cards and manage them in their account page, and I'll have full control on the back end so when I modify a customer's order per their request. I can charge their card the additional amount, refund the difference, and more with the click of a button after I adjust their order. It's completely PCI compliant and I don't store any cc info. I just can't abuse the power because then shit will hit the fan.

Will I pay $80 a month, no. But the main purpose of my new site is because I'm building another site for someone else, and they want CC billing because they sell to industrial customers who won't touch paypal. So I'm looking at options they can afford and/or options we can both afford.

Right now, I'm leaning towards using stripe. Which is seems like a great option. Unfortunately, the easy module install is the most basic install and only allows for full refunds from my back end and a very basic saved cards functionality. (But this is much better than my current paypal system)

However, module development is well documented and stripe is VERY well documented for creating a custom checkout. I need to do some further research, but I think I can make a stripe payment module that will allow for complete back end payment control as I mentioned I could get for the $80 a month, and still be fully pci compliant because I am not storing any credit card information. If this is the case, I'm going to offer the bare bones stripe checkout initially and develop the module for expanded backend capabilities.

What is going to go "wrong" with a cc processor that is so much more of hassle to deal with than paypal? I do realize that a cc processor has chargeback fees, but I'm inclined to think that people only go through the hassle of calling their cc company to file a claim in true events where it is needed. Where in paypal, they have a quick and easy dispute button. I don't understand why people will file a dispute 3 days after an order has been placed and haven't gotten a shipping confirmation email WITHOUT even trying to contact me first. 80% of the disputes I've dealt with was because people never attempted contact with me to get an answer. The other 20% there was some form of communication before hand, they were either rather impatient or I didn't see their message. If I get less chargebacks than disputes, I will be a very happy camper. Because the time spent dealing with a dispute is probably worth the amount of a chargeback.
 
PayPal only. I only trust PayPal and Amazon with my info.

Thanks for your feedback. How would you feel about a "checkout with amazon" button instead of a "checkout with paypal" button.

So if you click checkout, you get a normal checkout page. If you click "pay with Amazon" you get something like this

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Then how do all these people pay at the big retailers that don't offer paypal?

My question is, how many people refuse to use a credit card on the internet. Not how many prefer to use paypal.

And I hate paypal because of alot of small things that slowly snowball into hatred.

Yes they use credit, debit cards to pay at big retailers. They find it safe since transaction is done in front of their eyes.

I personally find it scary to use a cc on the internet. Reason is in India the cc provider does not use a transaction authorisation method linked to the users registered mobile number. But they will provide insurance for cc theft and charge for that anually. And top of that 35% anual interest + yada yada charges. CC working mechanism in US, I have no idea but I am guessing you get some kind of verification before money is moved.

I easily use debit card for online transactions since they have mobile verification for any transaction.


One more thing I hate paypal for is , they update exchange rates once in a week! Thats crazy to do in financial matters. I have lost around 100 usd just for this pathetic concept by paypal.
 
Yes they use credit, debit cards to pay at big retailers. They find it safe since transaction is done in front of their eyes.

I personally find it scary to use a cc on the internet. Reason is in India the cc provider does not use a transaction authorisation method linked to the users registered mobile number. But they will provide insurance for cc theft and charge for that anually. And top of that 35% anual interest + yada yada charges. CC working mechanism in US, I have no idea but I am guessing you get some kind of verification before money is moved.

I easily use debit card for online transactions since they have mobile verification for any transaction.


One more thing I hate paypal for is , they update exchange rates once in a week! Thats crazy to do in financial matters. I have lost around 100 usd just for this pathetic concept by paypal.

I meant big online retailers that only accept credit cards.

Yea, In the US, there is very stringent rules that need to be followed (PCI compliance) which make it very hard for CC info to be stolen. And we have Zip/Postal Code verification
 
I just came to know about google wallet. Haven't read it all but seems its free.



edit: Nope not free. Google charges 2.9% to put money into wallet. Rest all is free.
 
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PayPal only.......
if they don't take PP, I move on......

and out side of the internet.... Cash only
Don't really even own a CC.....

And didn't even know you hade a web site...... sorry...
 
Paypal, debit whatever. If I want to buy something online I have the means to do so. Anyone that refuses to do either one isn't making a point to anyone but themselves.
 
I try to stick with PayPal. PayPal's buyer protection is pretty solid. But definitely follow all of their guidelines to be protected. If you are paying for something on say a forum NEVER gift a payment. You have no protection. On a side note if you're selling something through PayPal, PayPal will provide you with a shipping address. Always ship to this address. Never ship to another address if the buyer tells you. You will also as a seller have no protection.
 
On a side note if you're selling something through PayPal, PayPal will provide you with a shipping address. Always ship to this address. Never ship to another address if the buyer tells you. You will also as a seller have no protection.

This is one reason I dislike paypal. A customer can enter a different address on my website than what paypal has. My shipping program pulls information from my website, not paypal. There has been a couple occasions where this has bit me in the ass.
 
This is one reason I dislike paypal. A customer can enter a different address on my website than what paypal has. My shipping program pulls information from my website, not paypal. There has been a couple occasions where this has bit me in the ass.



Sounds like your program is the problem not paypal.;-)
 
Sounds like your program is the problem not paypal.;-)

No, it's paypal's fault. If they require the use of their "confirmed" shipping addresses, then they should force the customer to make sure the shipping information is the same in both checkouts. This is why I dislike the stupid checkout system that redirects you away from the original website for a second checkout page.

Paypal makes you pay the $30 a month for an "iframe" to keep customers on a single website. There is nothing special about an iframe, it's just gives paypal a way to charge more.
 
Do you think I really have 600 sales a month? It would be spectacular if that was the case.

I don't know since I'm not privy to your financials. Considering you are a purveyor of a product nobody else carries I don't see an issue raising the price slightly to compensate for the charge. Or you can review all of your sales since apparently there aren't many of them to ensure the addresses match.
 
I'm wanting to get away from page redirects, unless you pay the $30 a month you have to redirect away from your store to a paypal payment page. The quicker and more painless a check out is, there will be less incompleted sales.

Ummm...typing my paypal password is way easier then keying in my credit card numbers, billing address, etc etc etc. Seems like you aren't really thinking it through and missing the grand scheme. You're making it MORE complicated and time consuming.
 
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