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Pitbull Owners

Not a personal attack, it is a belief of mine. I know I'm not going to change your mind, I just didn't want you to get off easy on the...

the dogs get a bad rap

comment. They are dangerous, even you admitted it in your first post. You can think anything you like about your dog and the breed but I believe they are a menace and a public danger. I also believe, as stated before, the owners of these dogs have a secondary reason for owning them. Image.


I am done now. Good luck to you, your family, any children that come in close contact with your dog, and your neighbors pets. I believe that all are in some amount of danger with an animal such as yours in the area.

Thank you for playing along,

RD400
 
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So, should:

"Good luck to you, your family, any children that come in close contact with your dog, and your neighbors pets. I believe that all are in some amount of danger with an animal such as yours in the area"

also apply to me since my dog is part Rottweiler and my other part Pit? Am NOT......... I repeat NOT trying to start any further negative discussion within this thread. However, it seeeeeeeeeeeems because of the breeds my dogs were created from could cause problems as well, ehhhhhhh? Or is it just full bred "bully breeds" that qualify as dangerous animals?
As stated previously, I do get quite a bit of flack for my dog and he isn't a full bred. It is when people learn he is half Rott that they change their mind about him. Whatever is kind of my view on the entire thing. Even with mine being only half Rott comes special responsibilities. With this is supervision, not getting or putting him in situations that could be bad. I have the luxury of running my own business, because of this my animal is with me 24/7. Therefore I know exactly where he is and what he is doing all the time, he is usually right under my feet. He is NEVER left outside unattended and I've got a 6' privacy fence. I could go on forever but what it comes down to is responsible owners. People KNOWING what their dog's history is (media included) and being able to commit to the extra attention needed with animals of this nature. My friends and family all know my dog well and we've never had any problems. Then again, friends or family members that come to visit and are uncomfortable with him, we respect this. He is told to go downstairs and that is it, he is out of sight and secured in the basement. Dogs sense if people are either scared or not sure of them. That is THE perfect time for something to go wrong.

I could go on and on but it is like beating a dead horse as the ol' saying goes.
 
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RD400 said:
Not a personal attack, it is a belief of mine. I know I'm not going to change your mind, I just didn't want you to get off easy on the...



comment. They are dangerous, even you admitted it in your first post. You can think anything you like about your dog and the breed but I believe they are a menace and a public danger. I also believe, as stated before, the owners of these dogs have a secondary reason for owning them. Image.


I am done now. Good luck to you, your family, any children that come in close contact with your dog, and your neighbors pets. I believe that all are in some amount of danger with an animal such as yours in the area.

Thank you for playing along,

RD400



dogs have that " sence " that we don't have you know the one that sences when someone fears or scared of something or someone......

and you rd400 are one of thoes guys that dogs sence that about....thats why a dog would attack you....ALL dogs have this sence and they will play games with people just like sharks, when a shark finds his pray it will bump it first before taking a bite... thats how dogs are when they sence fear they will try you out first and if you react with that "scared" look they will attack.... yes pits have a short fuse but so do many many other dogs... there was a story here in tampa,fl about a pit that killed another pit and started eating it because the owner didn't feet it. the dog was skin n bones... is that the dogs fault? like i said people are scared of pits and thats why pits make it to the news



the other day at my job (auto parts store) i was carrying a car battery out to a ladys truck. i was going to put it in the bed and she was like NO put in in the back seat next to the dog (lab mix) so i was like ok??..as soon as i reached in and set the battery on the seat the f'ing dog snaped at my head hitting the bill of my hat.....i was like WTF!!!!! she was like they have never done that!!!!! BS i said......


my point is any dog will "click" but the public is scared of pits, rottys and pinchers and thats why you see them on the news more often.....
 
RCALLOYS said:
I could go on and on but it is like beating a dead horse as the ol' saying goes.

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it all comes down to respecting the animal.

RD400 your entitled to your opinion,and i respect that.just don't be so quick to judge.
 
RD400 said:
Good owners or not, some dogs are just bread to kill. Pits, Dobies, Rots, German Shepards, etc. should have a special permit to go along with ownership.

I have a good friend that had a Pitbull for 4 years from a puppy and one day it got up from a nap, walked across the living room and ripped half of her 2 year old sons face off. There was no reason, the kid was playing by himself. My friend, her mom, and her sister were sitting in the living room at the time and saw how it happened. The dog just snapped. Owning one of these kind of dogs is like having a loaded gun sitting in the house. Most likely nothing will happen but why take the chance.


And for anyone who says....

"Its how you raise them"

My friend treated this dog like one of her children.

"The dog was provoked"

Bullsh*t! This thing just got up and tried to kill a human, no provikation.

"It was just a bad dog, mine would never do that"

You really want to risk your childrens or other peoples children on this hope. You never hear of Boarder Collies or Poodles maming or killing people. Your dog was bread TO ATTACK AND KILL.

Nothing personal, just what I have seen a family go through with one of these "harmless" animals:roll:

jason said:
Just lastweek here in Denver a Pit jumped a fence and was killing another dog, the dogs owner put his gun right to the pits head and shot twice, bullets lodged in the dogs brain, but it didn't even slow him down.

http://www.9news.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=64362

That's why you hear bad news about Pits, once they go into a killing frenzy there is nothing you can do to stop them. Most any other breed of dog you kick them once or twice and they stop. Pits fight to the death.

FrankyRizzo said:
My neighbor has a pit and it likes to jump up and almost latch on to the top of the wall. I told my neighbor if his dog makes it over I will shoot it. It's getting closer. My son wont even play in the back yard because it freaks him out. So now I am a prisoner in my own house.

RD400 said:
lohocla, yes I am serious. This little boy is 10 now and has had 13 surgeries to put his face back together. Still doesn't look or work right.


...and now the replies:

twisted said:
your ignorance makes me chuckle.

don't get me wrong, there are bad pits just as there are other bad breeds.

im sorry to here about your friends son. im sorry to say it but there is a reason for everything. maybe that dog did just "snap" does NOT mean it had anything to do with its breed. could of been bad breeding,lots of reason.

the reason you see more pit bulls in the news then any other breed "gone bad" is just the simple fact it makes better news.there are just as many other breeds out there that have bitten killed or chased someone down but it doesn't sound interesting enough on the news when it says "man bit by beagle"


twisted said:
man you guys make me shake my head in disbelief. did you not read the article i posted.

are you all gonna jump on the band wagon just because the media publicizes the attacks mad by these dogs ? its makes better news then "other breed" dog attacks (that still happen)yea these dogs can be dangerous that why it always comes back to a responsible owner.


Fact: Pits, Rotts, and Dobermans are more dangerous due to sheer size.

Fact: There's no "media bandwagon" in the above posts, just first-hand accounts. Rizzo's son won't even play in his own back yard 'cause of the dog next door.

Fact: I was attacked by a small dog (Jack Russel) and couldn't get the little bastard to get go of my leg even though I was kicking the piss out of the dog with my other leg. I was in my own yard...it just ran up and latched on. If it'd have been a pit I'd probably still be recovering.

Fact: Small dog bites you, you live. Big dog gets ahold of you, you get mauled.
 
I agree with pitts and Rotts, but Dobermans. Dobermans aren't known for being mean. They are very friendly dogs. I have a Boxer and a Doberman. I have never heard of a Doberman really attacking anyone unless provoked. Dobermans are poeple dogs. They will do anything for us. Thats why they are called the Velcro dogs. They always stay right by your side. Dobermans are some of the smartest dogs alive. Now Pitts and Rotts aren't really known for being the smart ones. Now the are other bigger dogs out there that are worse then pitts and Rotts. The Presa Canario. Is one of the meanest dogs alive. They where breed for Dope Dealers. A lady in FL. wasn't only attacjed but they ate her. Do your reseach on them.
 
_Jason_ said:

Hee hee, now that is original. LOL!

Saw something somewhere about Rotts and Pits not being the smartest dogs. Ummmmmm, I've seen and read a lot about Rotts being therapy dogs. Althought not as common as Labradors, Goldens, etc. BUT, they are out there. I am a bit biased but my animal with the combo of a Black Lab and a Rott is VERY smart. They have problem solving abilities, learn very fast, learn from watching, etc.

JIA, now them damn Jack Russels you gotta watch out for "thumbsup" I remember you telling me that story. That and when we'd talk on AIM and I'd say something about my German Shepherd you always say *KICK*. LOL


I am outtie. Got go find another dead horse to beat on. ;-)
 
I believe it is more the people than the dogs. Pits take alot of care and attension, and do not do well when not properly attended to. There are also just bads dogs, in any breed. Problem is that if a pit goes bad, it is probably the most formitable fighting canine we have bread. Solid muscle, high paint threshhold, and a never say die attitude.
Before I got my pit, I did alot of reading. I read the material from those who want to ban them, and from the people who raised them. The fact that stuck out most in my mind was that while pits were bread to be an ultimate fighting machine, they were not bread, at first, to be aggresive to humans. Those that showed agression to humans were not desireable, and were culled from the bloodline. Unfortunately, certain people exploit the obvious traits and have created some scary animals. So, is this dog dangerouse? Definatley. More so than other breeds? Yes, in and isolated incidents. I can think of no dog more scary to be faced with if it wanted to fight. But on a whole, I feel they are no more dangerous than many breeds of dog. And if from good breeding, I feel that they are more stable than many breeds. I feel that dogs in general are a risk, because as mentioned, they can snap. So I guess that is my take. Hold people responsible for bad dogs, and accept the risks inherent in dog ownership.

This is my 67lb female brendle named Alice. All muscle and pure love.
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hurm my pit is so damn cool she is old tho and ive had her since birth and both her perents since then and before
i do agree pits and rotts do get bad rep just for being those types of dogs my uncle owns ten and he use to breed them to fight and then sell em but now he dosent becasue we have two pits and saw how good they were if takin care of
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now on to my once loved dobermen story

we had him at my uncles house and he has been around all the people that we had at the house since he was little i was sitting on the back poarch with the dog and a couple people were inside in the kitchn right behind the sliding glass door he ran through it and starting attacking my aunt and bit her arm for no reason was never pravoke or anything and she loved the dog a lot always showed love to iot never hit it or anything and then after clashing through the sliding glass door he ran back outside stright for my uncle (nolt the one with the pits) and he jumped into the pool and after he didnt get him he turned and went for my brother who seen it comming and started to clime the vines on the porch and got on the roof
i ran inside at this point with the screen dore closed and put evryone in bedrooms got my uncles 45 and went back outside (now the only person this dog would lisin to was me)
so i called him over he came over like nothing was wrong still grawling at the guy in the pool i was calming him down and he started to grawl back up becasue the guy got out o f the pool so i pulled the gun and shot him right between the eyes nedles to say evryone is ok but the glass door has to be replaced (that was two years ago ) anyways it goes to show anydog can turn at anymoment dont trust any BIG dog
 
If Chiuauas were the size of a pitbull, they would be killing children everywhere. Thankfully we can say that they are not.

I'm sorry for the pitbull owners which say "They raised them properly" but I have to agree with the "Fear of Pitbull" people. They were bred to fight. They are big and muscular so they can conquer other dogs to kill. Once they get in the fighting rage, and no one knows when, they will kill to the death. That's what they were made to do and that's what they will do.

I say keep them away from your children/family/ANYBODY.

They have been given a bad rap because they are a bad "rap". Once that light in there head switches on in there head, pull out the 12-guage. Sure other dogs also get into the "killing frenzy", but they don't fight till the death, they fight until you kick them. Pits however, there's nothing stopping them.

Gangsters choice of dog: Rott, Pit, etc. Why don't they choose a St. Bernard? Well the dogs they choose were born to kill, get my point?
 
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FFRCJosh said:
If Chiuauas were the size of a pitbulls, dobermans, etc, they would be killing children everywhere. Thankfully we can say that they are not.

I'm sorry for the pitbull owners which say "They raised them properly" but I have to agree with the "Fear of Pitbull" people. They were bred to fight. They are big and muscular so they can conquer other dogs to kill. Once they get in the fighting rage, and no one knows when, they will kill to the death. That's what they were made to do and that's what they will do.

I say keep them away from your children/family/ANYBODY.

oh but wait ive seen a vid before of a rott just barking at this chiuaua
and the little dog jumped at its neck and crushed his trackum and killed the rott instantly so therer is no dog to trust:neutral:
 
Its been said many times in this thread, but it does boil down to the owners. Simple enough for me to decide, I dont trust many people. Therefore, I trust few dogs whether large or small. The ONLY way to properly keep a dog in check is to be the MASTER at all times. With smaller house dogs, I cant even name 5 people that train their dogs properly.

I have had no problem getting control of rotts, labs, and german shepherds and other large dogs when they get angry though. I dont fear dogs, and I have no problem wrestling a single dog down if it tries to attack. For some reason I have been attacked more than a dozen times by large dogs. I have two hands, dogs only have one mouth. The only breed I have ever had maul successfully me is chow's. The fur didnt allow me to choke the dog proper (they were breed for protective fur) and it got the best of me. Luckily I didnt need stitches because I was wearing thick enough clothing and the dog was under 50 pounds. The owner of this dog liked to beat and taunt him. Owners fault.


Long story short, I dont hate on a breed. I just think that few people are responsible enough to handle large breeds.
 
Ignorance is rampant these days, I hope my pitbull eats your dog and your kids leg. She has at least 100 confirmed kills under her belt. In the second pic you can see the guts from her last victim :flipoff:
 

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