ohh EPiC FAiL
Quarry Creeper
it seems like every time i open up a build thread i see a different jeep. JK YJ, etc. but i can't seem to tell the difference between them all. can anyone elaborate? preferably with pics "thumbsup"
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so many different jeeps, what's the difference?
- Thread starter ohh EPiC FAiL
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Jk is the newest jeep.
They are bigger overall. Some 2dr some 4dr.
TJ are smaller. Came out with 4 coil suspension round headlights.
Yj. Similar to tj but square headlights. And leaf springs.
I am assuming these are the ones you're referring to
They are bigger overall. Some 2dr some 4dr.
TJ are smaller. Came out with 4 coil suspension round headlights.
Yj. Similar to tj but square headlights. And leaf springs.
I am assuming these are the ones you're referring to
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ohh EPiC FAiL
Quarry Creeper
that helps a lot! thanks! i knew there had to be differences but i couldn't figure it out. i did notice that some guys did scale jeep builds and some used leaf springs and some used coils but i just thought it was a matter of their preference, not what the actual jeep had.
do the letters stand for anything, or is it just how a lot of cars are that have different versions and the manufacturer just gives them letters?
do the letters stand for anything, or is it just how a lot of cars are that have different versions and the manufacturer just gives them letters?
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Jeeps have almost always had a letter code to go with the version. The popular and advertised name may be Cherokee (letter code XJ) or Wrangler (TJ, YJ, JK) or even just a letter name as in CJ (civilian Jeep). Then with the CJ's they had many versions such as short CJ-5 or Longer (about the same wheelbase as TJ's and YJ's, the CJ-7). Then there were many odd examples of many of them as well. Like what was posted by BC, that link will tell you alot. The general Jeep open top has been around for a long long time and there is a lot to learn about them. Great history behind them when you look into it."thumbsup"
Badd
I wanna be Dave
Jeeps have round headlights . I'm not sure what that TJ thing is . 
WICKEDWOLFRC
Rock Crawler
Jeeps have round headlights . I'm not sure what that TJ thing is .
Agreed to a point, the suspensions on the TJ's and newer are a night and day differance over the Cj's. If Jeep would just put a real V8 in a rubicon it would be perfect except for the size...I'm too big of a guy for Jeeps.
I wheeled a CJ7 for a few years and hated it was underpowered and the thing broke down on every trail run:roll: I went back to a Fullsize Blazer.
Blazer Making trails wider since 1967"thumbsup"
Jeeps have round headlights . I'm not sure what that TJ thing is .
I think they call those Minivans or something like that, you know, the things soccer moms drive around................ :lmao:
TURTLE
Gettin’ back on the horse
Jk is the newest jeep.
They are bigger overall. Some 2dr some 4dr.
TJ are smaller. Came out with 4 coil suspension round headlights.
Yj. Similar to tj but square headlights. And leaf springs.
I am assuming these are the ones you're referring to
JKs also have a mini van motor and ride like a Cadillac in comparison to TJs and YJs. To me its not a Wrangler, the size comparision, is pretty vast compared to older models.
JKs from 2007 -present
TJs to me are the best looking Wrangler to date. The small size lends itself well to Colorado trails, they were also the first version to have a rubicon version, 16 wheels, dana 44 rear, lockers, cool sticker.:ror:, etc. There is also a massive amount of aftermarket support in the 1:1 world.
TJs from 1997 -2006
Also in the mix is the LJ, which is basically an extended body/wheelbase TJ.
The difference between YJs and TJs in pretty vast, just on the body hood latches, rear bumper, door handles, fender flares, and so on. They also came with a dumpy 4 cylinder, not all but some. Of course MacGyver drove a YJ.:mrgreen:
YJs from 1987 -1995 (I think)
On the note of CJs don't forget about the Scrambler CJ-8, Very cool extended wheelbase CJ.
There is a lot of info. on the different models out there, a lot of varietions to each one, if you know what to look for."thumbsup"
Jeeps have round headlights . I'm not sure what that TJ thing is .
The TJ has round headlights, the YJ is the freak!:mrgreen:
The Dana 44 rear axle has been around in Jeeps for a LONG time. CJ5's from the mid 70's had them from the factory and if I'm not mistaken so did earlier CJ's. The CJ7 had a Dana 44 rear axle only during the 1986 model year. Wagoneers ran Dana 44's front and rear off an on through out it's long run. Cherokee's and Comanche's also ran a Dana 44 rear in the early years with the tow package option. All long the before the Wrangler Sahara model did in 1998.
As far as CJ's riding like crap, mine rides pretty good for a leaf sprung rig. It's sprung over but the springs are stock CJ7 replacements from JCW.
Other differences besides headlight shape and suspension are axle, frame and body widths. Axle width started pretty narrow in the early years. My 77 CJ7 had 53" wide front axle and a 52" wide rear. Late model CJ7's ran 56" axles, YJ's went with 60" axles, TJ's are 60.5" and I'm not sure about the JK's but I think they're 66". Someone correct me if I'm wrong about the JK axle.
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WICKEDWOLFRC
Rock Crawler
It's not all about ride quality its axle articulation, Jeeps should be bought to wheel not cruise the mall:lmao: I can cruise at 80 mph with ease in my K5, something I could never do in any Jeep I've owned except for my Cherokees. I flex a whole lot better too, mainly because of the longer leafs, the short Cj and YJ springs are really limiting.
OEM Axle options in the offroad world are useless, anyone that wheels ends up swapping them out anyway, esp. in the YJ and CJ's. 44's are Ok but people think they're gold esp. the rubicons Thats another reason I went back to fullsize, My Dana 60 was bolt in, the way GM should have sold them from the factory:mrgreen:
WICKEDWOLFRC
Rock Crawler
heres some pic comparisons of my last Jeep and my current K5, all the goodies guys want to put on their Jeeps came from the factory in GM's Dodges and Fords:lmao:
Jeep will get you there...Just may not get you back
Jeep will get you there...Just may not get you back
Numbcrawling
Quarry Creeper
In the 2012 JK they also finally got rid of that atrocious minivan motor and got the pentastar V-6 with 40% more HP and 10% more torque, so it can actually be a decent trail rig now... still needs a bit of work to make it into a proper trail rig, but they are doing a hell of a lot better now than they did in the 2007-2011 models.
roots
Newbie
heres some pic comparisons of my last Jeep and my current K5, all the goodies guys want to put on their Jeeps came from the factory in GM's Dodges and Fords:lmao:
Jeep will get you there...Just may not get you back
I dare you to take a modern Blazer down the trails in your pics.
WICKEDWOLFRC
Rock Crawler
No problem, I took my 97 GMC down it with 33's
Just to drag a Toyota out:lmao: partly just because I wanted to see I f it would make it.Give me a standard cab pickup of any year and and a solid front end and I'll follow a mildly built Jeep any where;-)
I have wheeled with many modern Blazers (Tahoes, Yukons) and with a solid front end they do just fine.
You get to a certain point in crawling where it doesn't matter what you wheel, OEM just won't do and lift and tires aren't enough.
If you swap in a V8 trans and tcase, 1 ton axles is it still a Jeep?
roots
Newbie
No problem, I took my 97 GMC down it with 33's
Give me a standard cab pickup of any year and and a solid front end and I'll follow a mildly built Jeep any where;-)
I have wheeled with many modern Blazers (Tahoes, Yukons) and with a solid front end they do just fine.
You get to a certain point in crawling where it doesn't matter what you wheel, OEM just won't do and lift and tires aren't enough.
If you swap in a V8 trans and tcase, 1 ton axles is it still a Jeep?
Ahh the old Ship of Theseus argument. Let's not get into that.
At least we can both agree to laugh at Toyotas."thumbsup"
ohh EPiC FAiL
Quarry Creeper
thanks for all the info guys! now i know what i'm looking at "thumbsup"
Actually, 1969 was the first year for the Blazer and the Dana 44 has been around since the Willys flat fenders roamed the earth. "thumbsup"
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ohh EPiC FAiL
Quarry Creeper
so this is getting a bit off topic, but when does an axle become a 1 ton axle? what "rating" does a dana 44 have?
