Summit as a comp rig?

[Diesel Dan]

I like the picture of Shannon Campbells rig with no front axles, thats most of the problem with independent suspension, CV style axles + extreme angles + traction = $$$ broken parts $$$!

 

[Keithro]

Problem with Independent suspension for a crawler is when your tire moves up (say on a rock) you loose ground clearance. A Solid axle moves the body/axle up with it as it articulates up.

 

[92GreenYJ]

they do..... its a bit more costly though

Yeah. No. No we don't. The go fast desert race guys use it. But us 1:1 crawlers wouldn't go Independent if you paid us. Just does not work in the rocks. There was ONE comp rig built with full independent suspension once. He ran it for one season then gutted it and went back to solid axles. Independent suspension has its advantages and it is great at many things, crawling however is NOT one of them

 

[Greatscott]

I just bought a summit from LHS to crawl with have some great pics and places to crawl in SD but i am in the works to buy a AX10 if you know what i mean LOL summit is fun though

If you are military, or have base access, there are a couple of great places to crawl on Subase.

When you get your AX10 bring it out for a comp with SDRCRC, we normally have one a month. We did miss this month's due to last weekend's rain :-(.

 

[Iberian]

Just in case anyone was still confused Independent Suspension for crawling is a bad idea. I know not everything in the 1:1 world transfers to RC but this does.

Someone should make a video of both climbing up a comp course. It would actually be pretty cool. Or you can send me a Summit and I will make the video

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

Everytime I see the Summit I can't help but think it would be cool to do a R/C Top Truck challenge, with the tank trap and all!

Great idea. That would be fun.

 

[quadiak]

Problem with Independent suspension for a crawler is when your tire moves up (say on a rock) you loose ground clearance. A Solid axle moves the body/axle up with it as it articulates up.

If IFS is set up well, this exact ^^^scenario^^^ would keep the CG much lower(good thing"thumbsup"). I have modified my summit quite heavily and continue to do so. I am not saying my Summit is yet up to comp crawler status, but I am working on it. although I will need to find a local crawler guy here to compare to when it is ready.

There are most likely courses a Summit will never compete with a 2.2 crawler, but I can guarantee there are places no 2.2 rig could follow me either. Personally I would like to see a new class for rigs between 2.2 and Super maybe it could be called "Large Scale" :mrgreen:

 

[T DAWGv12]

If IFS is set up well, this exact ^^^scenario^^^ would keep the CG much lower(good thing ). I have modified my summit quite heavily and continue to do so. I am not saying my Summit is yet up to comp crawler status, but I am working on it. although I will need to find a local crawler guy here to compare to when it is ready.

There are most likely courses a Summit will never compete with a 2.2 crawler, but I can guarantee there are places no 2.2 rig could follow me either. Personally I would like to see a new class for rigs between 2.2 and Super maybe it could be called "Large Scale"

Heres to that quadiak! I have seen many pictures, write-ups and several videos of your summit, Sumbot I believe you call it, in action and it's very impressive.
I consider my summit an SAT, or Summit Adventure Truck. Sounds a little fruity I know, but that’s really what it is for me. I was nowhere near expecting any sort of comp rig when I got a summit (not my cup of tea anyhow). I go somewhere put it on the ground and see if I can go THERE with it or start somewhere and see just where I can end up. It’s absolutely amazing, it's virtually unstoppable! I also have an Axial SCX-10, a 1.9 scaler, by no means a 2.2 comp rig but it can crawl extremely well for what it is and it can even manage some stuff my summit can't in terms of crawling but with its "little" 1.9s it can't really even drive through unpacked leaves covering the ground never mind go up a hill covered with them.
Anyhow, I'm not sure if the original poster is ever going to read this more than a year later but a summit isn't what you'd want for a comp rig. If you want something that can crawl decently and go anywhere fast and hard get a summit if you want to go slow and crawl over ridiculous stuff than get a comp type crawler.

 

[D_Frawg]

I was at a comp once and over heard a guy who looked EXCALLY like gatekeeper say that if someone would beat him on a course with a summit he would NEVER touch his rc again. If I can remember perfectly he said from that moment on he would just set down the controller and not even turn off the truck, just walk away.

The best way to answer the original question is how many do you see at comps? I personally have never not even as a time waster to rip around the parking lots or pit areas. I do believe you could become the most popular guy at a comp.

 

[jaymann]

Heres to that quadiak! I have seen many pictures, write-ups and several videos of your summit, Sumbot I believe you call it, in action and it's very impressive.
I consider my summit an SAT, or Summit Adventure Truck. Sounds a little fruity I know, but that’s really what it is for me. I was nowhere near expecting any sort of comp rig when I got a summit (not my cup of tea anyhow). I go somewhere put it on the ground and see if I can go THERE with it or start somewhere and see just where I can end up. It’s absolutely amazing, it's virtually unstoppable! I also have an Axial SCX-10, a 1.9 scaler, by no means a 2.2 comp rig but it can crawl extremely well for what it is and it can even manage some stuff my summit can't in terms of crawling but with its "little" 1.9s it can't really even drive through unpacked leaves covering the ground never mind go up a hill covered with them.
Anyhow, I'm not sure if the original poster is ever going to read this more than a year later but a summit isn't what you'd want for a comp rig. If you want something that can crawl decently and go anywhere fast and hard get a summit if you want to go slow and crawl over ridiculous stuff than get a comp type crawler.

Well said thats why i bought this truck.If i wanted a comp crawlers performance this is not the truck,I am almost convinced this truck was designed with me in mind:ror:where i live is perfect for this truck i have every kind of terrain to play on sea to mountain tops8)

 

[TheDude530]

I've owned both a summit and a crawler the summit isnt and never will be a crawler i tryed to make it as close to one as possible it just doesnt work.