The most innovative product for 2007? - have your say.

[4u2nv]

(a) Mamba Maxx
(b) Createacrawler wheels

Don't forget the new Hilux!

 

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

TLT CVD's

Everything else is just a newer version of something else, the cvd's were the first of their kind for the crawling comunity, therefore the most invative."thumbsup"

1) RCP/MIP TLT CVDs
2) The Hustler
3) Holmes Hobbies Cobalt Puller Motor
4) PaulezK axle truss/link mount

Everything else is a natural progression or refinement of something else. These items were innovative, new ideas for crawlers.
The CVD's changed the face of crawling, big power/torque and reliability were not exclusive terms anymore.
The Hustler changed my mind about whether or not a tube chassis could be competitive. It also introduced the fully droop suspension.
The Cobalt motor was the first crawling motor to use Cobalt magnets and an armature that allowed for slow speed control but also has some amazing torque and speed. It even has some drag brake built in.
Paul's link mount took an idea that most people took for granted, upper links mounted to a flat upper plate, and not only did it different but threw in some great scale looks. All in an easy to manufacture design.

Wow, only 2 guys that see the light. I can't see how some of you think the AX10 is that innovative or the most useful, thought out, helpful, cant live without item that came out this year. All it did was bring a complete kit to the market. While that has increased the growth of RC crawling, it is hardly innovative.

 

[MaddJack]

maddjack

It has got to be the Axial ax-10:twisted:

 

[The Muscle]

1. cnc'd Rear steer lockouts
2. The dinky link
3. r2d

 

[todd1803]

Wow, only 2 guys that see the light. I can't see how some of you think the AX10 is that innovative or the most useful, thought out, helpful, cant live without item that came out this year. All it did was bring a complete kit to the market. While that has increased the growth of RC crawling, it is hardly innovative.

Let's see:
CVD's - been around for years, just an adaptation on an existing product
Hustler - tubers are nothing new
Cobalt Motors - again, AstroFlight has been making Cobalt motors for 20 years.

The axle truss / link mounts are the only new and innovative thing on the list you quoted.


I've never been a huge fan of the AX10, but how can you say nothing is innovative about Axial doing something no other manufacturer could - marketing a purpose built rock crawler kit. Show me another one on the market. Our comps have grown 3X in size since the AX10 hit the market. To say that any other product has had that impact isn't seeing the big picture.

 

[STANG KILLA SS]

I think it's in this order

• Miss T.S.S. (NOT tcs)
• R2D
• JP's Clod axle tubes
• The Dinky links

Thanks for the chance!

 

[JUSTGOINGSLOW]

love the smiley LOL

 

[cars69]

RC4WD- R2D Trans

 

[Hildy]

• Poulson axles-I think they're from 07'??

• Ax10 axles- offers a comp ready axle out of the box

• Ax10 tranny-lighter, smoother, beefier than what was previously available

Dig ain't nothin new although the R2D offered it to those who can't fabJK I want one myself

 

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

2007 has been a big year for the crawling community.
a lot of great products hit the market.
its time to have YOUR say on what YOU think has been the most innovative product this year.
there arent any rules, just have a say on what you think was the most useful, thought out, helpful, cant live without item that came out this year.
it can be a single part or a whole kit/truck, whatever, so long as it was designed for crawlers.
keep it civil and respect others opinions.

Let's see:
CVD's - been around for years, just an adaptation on an existing product
Hustler - tubers are nothing new
Cobalt Motors - again, AstroFlight has been making Cobalt motors for 20 years.

The axle truss / link mounts are the only new and innovative thing on the list you quoted.


I've never been a huge fan of the AX10, but how can you say nothing is innovative about Axial doing something no other manufacturer could - marketing a purpose built rock crawler kit. Show me another one on the market. Our comps have grown 3X in size since the AX10 hit the market. To say that any other product has had that impact isn't seeing the big picture.

You see the bold?? That's what the OP's criteria was.

See the italicized? I was not talking about that.

Now on to the CVD's, how long have they been around for TLT's?

Oh, they just came out this year. Wow!!! Has that useful? Yup. Helpful? Yup. Can't live without? For the most serious competitors, Yes.

Now ask yourself the qusetions in bold about the AX10.

Usefull? Only for the noobs & lazy that cant build something for themselves.

Thoughtout? It's just a kit.

Helpfull? Mybe for hobby shop owners, they have an answer for all the people that ask "where can I buy a crawler."

Can't live without? Lot's of people can.

 

[Hildy]

Now ask yourself the qusetions in bold about the AX10.

Usefull? Only for the noobs & lazy that cant build

HAHAHA....so those of us who buy an Ax10 are noobs and lazy eh?

Thats a bold statement

 

[run2jeepn]

1. R2D
2. Losi Claws
3. Castle BEC


The Ax-10 is nothing speical. Yes it's the first Crawler Kit thats 100% Crawler. But has nothing speical or new to the Game.

The Losi Claws, brougth a New tire to the Market that Rasied the Bar big time.
The Rc4wd R2D tranny was a nice clean and compact way to get a Dig set up.
The Castle BEC... Just freakin Sweet is all that is...

 

[Etype R]

RC4WD Straight axle adapters for the TLT, now you can get straight axle adapters for the WK and axial as well. Before this everyone was locking out their steering with links and blocks.

RC4WD R2 disconnect, first and still only tranny with a dig system built in.

RC4WD R2 standard tranny, very compact crawler designed tranny with all metal gears.

RCP CVD's, a stronger then stock axle replacement that gives more steering without any grinding. Though its hard to call this one innovative, as CVD's have been in the RC market longer then I have been in the hobby. But this was the first set designed for crawlers in mind.

AX-10 has its place on a list like this. The axles are the first high production axles deigned for crawling, not for high speed bashing. The TLT axle was never intended by Tamiya to be used the way they are today. The wheelie king is marketed to compete with the rustler and stampede, not the TLT.

 

[todd1803]

Now on to the CVD's, how long have they been around for TLT's?

Oh, they just came out this year. Wow!!! Has that useful? Yup. Helpful? Yup. Can't live without? For the most serious competitors, Yes.

Now ask yourself the qusetions in bold about the AX10.

Usefull? Only for the noobs & lazy that cant build something for themselves.

Thoughtout? It's just a kit.

Helpfull? Mybe for hobby shop owners, they have an answer for all the people that ask "where can I buy a crawler."

Can't live without? Lot's of people can.

CVDs

Useful - Only if you have a TLT
Thought out - Seriously? How much thought is needed to adapt an existing design
Can't live without - All the guys with AX10's and WK's live without them just fine.

AX10

Useful - If half the competitors are running them, I'd say so
Thought out - Tons of R&D goes into design, manufacture, packaging, and marketing a brand new kit.
Can't live without - For all the new entries to the sport since the release, many who wouldn't have experienced crawling otherwise, I'd say it is for them.

 

[Etype R]

CVDs

Useful - Only if you have a TLT
Thought out - Seriously? How much thought is needed to adapt an existing design
Can't live without - All the guys with AX10's and WK's live without them just fine.

AX10

Useful - If half the competitors are running them, I'd say so
Thought out - Tons of R&D goes into design, manufacture, packaging, and marketing a brand new kit.
Can't live without - For all the new entries to the sport since the release, many who wouldn't have experienced crawling otherwise, I'd say it is for them.

I don't have any hard numbers, but axial and WK axles are to thin on the ends. I broke my WK axial without pushing it very hard. I abused my stock TLT axles a lot more then my WK axles. The CVD's are a good upgrade for any axles we use, if you find your self breaking stock axles.

 

[Highmark]

I'm surprised the GC-1 hasn't been mentioned yet.

I mean common, first it walked away with the 2007 SERCRC point series, then the West coast nationals, then the Midwest nationals, then Nationals ... there's not much left out there to win. Not to mention it was an completely un-known in 2006.

You want to talk about something that changed the face of crawling in 2007, was well thought out, and is very innovative? What more do you want?

Useful - BOTH national champs this year seem to think so.
Thought out - if it isn't thought out then some guys kicked a lot of ass this year without trying.
Can't live without - See "useful"

My $ 0.02

 

[drumbeater]

I'm surprised the GC-1 hasn't been mentioned yet.

I mean common, first it walked away with the 2007 SERCRC point series, then the West coast nationals, then the Midwest nationals, then Nationals ... there's not much left out there to win. Not to mention it was an completely un-known in 2006.

You want to talk about something that changed the face of crawling in 2007, was well thought out, and is very innovative? What more do you want?

Useful - BOTH national champs this year seem to think so.
Thought out - if it isn't thought out then some guys kicked a lot of ass this year without trying.
Can't live without - See "useful"

My $ 0.02

So your saying the chassis was the only reason he won and not the driver. We'll never know because he never drove anything else at those comps.

 

[miller]

I gotta say ax-10 ..... I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for it. As for it not being innovative or new....I don't see any other decently priced crawler rc's out there....sure a bunch of run around piece together stuff but no specific crawler rc's. The fact that it's the only kit out there is pretty innovative to me.

I'm from 1:1 and there are a ton of us into these now because you don't have to run around finding parts or spending the same amount of coin that can build you a real crawler.

Woot for the ax-10 "thumbsup"

 

[Highmark]

So your saying the chassis was the only reason he won and not the driver. We'll never know because he never drove anything else at those comps.

Quote me where I said that so I can show you exactly how far out of context you really are. :roll:

What a redundant and meaningless argument.

 

[drumbeater]

I'm surprised the GC-1 hasn't been mentioned yet.

I mean common, first it walked away with the 2007 SERCRC point series, then the West coast nationals, then the Midwest nationals, then Nationals ... there's not much left out there to win. Not to mention it was an completely un-known in 2006.

You want to talk about something that changed the face of crawling in 2007, was well thought out, and is very innovative? What more do you want?

Useful - BOTH national champs this year seem to think so.
Thought out - if it isn't thought out then some guys kicked a lot of ass this year without trying.
Can't live without - See "useful"

My $ 0.02

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