Videographers Pleeaassee help a brother out???

[donhd04]

For all you guys that video events and a lot of RC stuff, can you help a guy starting out with some recommendations?
Were I live there is no one doing anything like this and I wanna do it to help try to get some interest in what we are doing. The stuff i wanna video is mostly automotive events, rc events and occasionally my daughters soccer games.
I know I want the new HERO 3 BLACK edition GOPRO, but what about a consumer camcorder? I have looked at several but Im still lost on the whole thing. I like the Canon HF M52 wifi but I don't know about wide angle lenses and microphones for it? What about a lense hood for it. I have checked the websites and haven't come up with anything.
I also have looked at the Canon HF G10, HF G20 (not out yet) but what about sony or panasonic? I have a budget of around $600 to $900 not including the GOPRO.
For what one good camcorder cost I can buy 2 GOPRO's but can i use a gopro for regular family stuff like soccer games or christmas morning type stuff? Or would a camcorder be better for those things?
I would like to some day get as good with this as the master MADRAM11 but im just starting out and need some advice. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!

What I have so far is my IPHONE 5, istabilizer flex tri pod, istabilizer monopod, Iphone remote. Hey gotta start somewhere right?

 

[STANG KILLA SS]

you cannot use a go pro for soccer games.
go pros work best when the subject is less than 10' away. or it looks like ants on the moon.

i just upgraded my old Canon HV20 (tape) to a Canon R300 this month. love it. its SO small. battery upgrade is a must though. but i picked it up on ebay as an brand new open box with canon bag and 8g card for $113. brand new!
oviously its no where near the camera a $600-1000 is but i would definatly suggest the Canons.

 

[donhd04]

Thanks for the info. I'm starting to lean towards the HF M52 I think. I would like to find out what other brands compare with that one. I tried B&H and they didn't really help me out any.

 

[crash]

I mainly use my Sony HDR-CX150 but I use a variety of wide angle lenses (you will want a good 4.5 or 5 wide angle for the rc stuff).

I also use a Hero3 black and integrate the 2 for my video stuff...

Capturing it is only half of it and really the easy part--its the editing that brings the capture content to life and I have spent allot in software.

 

[donhd04]

Thanks for the response. Im using Imovie on my new mac book pro. Eventually (long way out) i would like to get into Final Cut Pro. Imovie just makes things pretty easy for me so far. I'll look into the Sony. Any other suggestions from Sony that would be good?

 

[crash]

I have not looked at the new units to see whats out there. But I would look for a camera that shoots progressive footage instead of interlaced and look for something that can go 60fps.

My camera shoots interlaced 30fps so I have to work on the software side to get slow motion footage to look the way I want--where as with progressive and 60fps it would make the task allot simpler with a better end result.

 

[STANG KILLA SS]

x2. definatly stay away from 30i.

and crash is right. most cameras will do the job. its talented editors like crash that "make" those movies. ie going with the music, setting a feel for a short film etc. of course a good eye while filming helps too. angle veriety etc.

 

[donhd04]

Wow thanks a lot guys. I actually know what your talking about too. Crash do have a YouTube channel. Id like to check some of them out.

 

[crash]

Wow thanks a lot guys. I actually know what your talking about too. Crash do have a YouTube channel. Id like to check some of them out.

No I hate youtube. There compression sucks and they limit what you can have.

I do however use Vimeo and here is my channel

https://vimeo.com/channels/warcrc

 

[donhd04]

that was pretty sweet. lot of good looking rigs in the first video.

 

[ROLANDROCKSHOP]

If you hadnt already..check on youtube for camera reviews and sample footage..

i like the canon t3i myself..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBlOn3Vk0B0

 

[donhd04]

If you hadnt already..check on youtube for camera reviews and sample footage..

i like the canon t3i myself..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBlOn3Vk0B0

Well my wife does photography and she is upgrading the the 7D shortly after taxes come back but i have been told that DSLR's have 2 big flaws when it comes to video.
1. processors aren't good for high action video
2. weight. they are really heavy.
I don't know if this is true but according to several different camera places (not best buy) they said the dslr's weren't the best for high action video. Anyone got any other opinions of the DSLR's? Im open for anything.

 

[ROLANDROCKSHOP]

my casio ex fh20 is a dslr and i love it.
high speed camera 10-40fps
slo-motion capture 30-1000fps
records in 720p
sd card

ive dropped it 3 times and it's still ticking.

if im not filming with my Drift170 HD camera im using the casio.

make shure you buy a HD sd card to go with..that makes a big difference.

 

[crash]

Do not get a DSLR for the intention of doing video stuff...

 

[nmanuel01]

Do not get a DSLR for the intention of doing video stuff...

But canon 5D mk ii filmed most of the footage in that navy seal movie lol.
Maybe way out if budget, the t4i does great video as well

 

[Donziikid]

my casio ex fh20 is a dslr and i love it

No it isn't. It is a megazoom; ie: a beefed up point and shoot. A great camera, but certainly not a DSLR.

But canon 5D mk ii filmed most of the footage in that navy seal movie lol.

Yes, with the aide of multi-thousand dollar riggers and cranes. Not handheld, or with a simple stabilizer.

I don't know if this is true but according to several different camera places (not best buy) they said the dslr's weren't the best for high action video. Anyone got any other opinions of the DSLR's? Im open for anything.

Video mode on a DSLR is a great gimmick Nikon placed on their cameras that everyone soon followed suit with. You can get fantastic results, but not without the aide of thousands of dollars in extra equipment. It is a cool feature to flick a switch and be able to capture video when out shooting? Sure, but I wouldn't rely on it. Camcorders have a photo mode on them: would you use that as your primary camera? No. Use the equipment for its primary purpose.

For a video camera/camcorder, I suggest the following:

Sony HDR CX260V. $500. 30x Optical Zoom, 55x Digital Zoom. 8.9MP CMOS. ~30mm Wide Angle lens.

Try to get the highest optical zoom you can find (ie: 30x Optical Zoom or higher) and the largest sensor size you can find.

 

[donhd04]

For a video camera/camcorder, I suggest the following:

Sony HDR CX260V. $500. 30x Optical Zoom, 55x Digital Zoom. 8.9MP CMOS. ~30mm Wide Angle lens.

Try to get the highest optical zoom you can find (ie: 30x Optical Zoom or higher) and the largest sensor size you can find.

I had came across that camera on B&H photo's website and started comparing to some of the others in that price range. It really had a lot of features that most of the others didn't have. Do you have any other cameras in mind that would compare wit the Sony HDR cx260v?

 

[Donziikid]

I had came across that camera on B&H photo's website and started comparing to some of the others in that price range. It really had a lot of features that most of the others didn't have. Do you have any other cameras in mind that would compare wit the Sony HDR cx260v?

Panasonic HC-V720K. Preorder $550. Not currently on the market, so reviews are hard to find. B&H has a preorder, and some more information that cannot be found on the manufacture's website: found here.

Personally, I own a Sony HDR CX150 and have yet to have any complaints. I used to own Panasonic's, but they were old tape cameras, and nothing digital. Can't have a personal opinion on something I have never used or owned.

If it were my money, and my choice, I would go with the Sony. I trust the brand name a little more. No only that, but Sony has a great deal if you buy straight from them (which I have done in the past). Currently, they are throwing in a free spare battery if you order the CX260V from them and, if willing, a $100 credit with a new Sony Credit Card. Their price is on target, too, since Amazon sells for only a dollar less than Sony's warehouse (same with Best Buy, B&H, and Adorama).

 

[crash]

Panasonic HC-V720K. Preorder $550. Not currently on the market, so reviews are hard to find. B&H has a preorder, and some more information that cannot be found on the manufacture's website: found here.

Personally, I own a Sony HDR CX150 and have yet to have any complaints. I used to own Panasonic's, but they were old tape cameras, and nothing digital. Can't have a personal opinion on something I have never used or owned.

If it were my money, and my choice, I would go with the Sony. I trust the brand name a little more. No only that, but Sony has a great deal if you buy straight from them (which I have done in the past). Currently, they are throwing in a free spare battery if you order the CX260V from them and, if willing, a $100 credit with a new Sony Credit Card. Their price is on target, too, since Amazon sells for only a dollar less than Sony's warehouse (same with Best Buy, B&H, and Adorama).

Ya mine has been great. My only complaint is very sunny days and hard to see the lcd screen and I wish there was a port of an external record switch.

 

[donhd04]

Is the Sony Mac compatible? I ant find on the website whether it is or not. I saw windows was mentioned.