Winner found... A new Dog to train..

[ClassiCutCustoms]

Looking like a Winner already! Come on now and get those shocks built and you will have a roller...... Lol

 

[Crawllife]

I'm guessing those new fangled shocks those crawler guys have been putting on these trucks might help with those ride hight issues. Just throwing it out there. What shocks are you going with? I'm working on scoring the new white body's from rcbros. Super clean looking. They will be sweet with my new Ti shafts from EY. How's the build comp going? Haha!! Lookin sick dude!!

 

[ClassiCutCustoms]

I guess he is asleep already...... Or maybe still crazy about building this rig........ He has been awfully quiet

 

[Crawllife]

Or he's trying to beat me to those shock bodies . Ha!!

 

[winnerone23]

SHOCKS! That's what's missing! Well, it seems I got all my shock building supplies out.. And...

I know I had 4 fresh shocks to build up.. One was already built.. Also send shock caps are limited supply these days.. I remember having more... But...



This is what I had for new.. Hmmm.. What happen to them extra supplies??? Think Think Think

 

[winnerone23]

Here goes the multi pics.. Argh...

Got some work done, messed around with front link mount.. Talk about taking a case apart to mount the thing.. Oh wait, it was alot less taking apart then putting a front link mount on a XR!
then the rear one. Out came the dremel to get rid of the fang stick up in the air. Front will be next. (Give ya a pic to look at a dozen times, worth looking at) lol..





There will be some revisions for a final mount..



Motor clearance is plenty..



And we have a Roller!



Flex..

 

[winnerone23]

I hope to see this on the 8th. I suppose I'd have an obligation to then be the one taking video for ur build thread!

Oh ok David, I think that sounds like a Great idea! obligatory camera man, we all read it here...

Nice Troy... I Wanna see that thing running on the 14th!!!"thumbsup"

I want to see it running on the 14th too.

You guys Love video as much as I do, so the 14th it is!

It's awesome you 3 stepped up to get video out to the Rcc world!

 

[Crawllife]

Looks killer T! Thanks for those fresh new shock caps at BG! They are coming in handy with my build. Keep it up bro. At this rate you will be getting to know this rig real soon!

 

[Crawllife]

How about a serious question for a big change. Can you share ( even though it's just a roller ) pros and cons over the xr you've driven the last year? I've only been a berg guy so perhaps it will help someone make up their minds to make the switch. Even if it's just from a building / maintance point of view.

 

[filotr14lsdude]

How about a serious question for a big change. Can you share ( even though it's just a roller ) pros and cons over the xr you've driven the last year? I've only been a berg guy so perhaps it will help someone make up their minds to make the switch. Even if it's just from a building / maintance point of view.

As some one who has had both and driven both for well over a year I can chime in.


Berg pros:
-Strength- in very extreme binds you have the confidence that you can power through it(way more then the xr liked)
-Servo location
-Battery being up and out of the rocks
-Maintanence is a lot easier, I've shaved the front bolt so the gear box has 3 bolts to split the gearbox
-Great vendor support

Berg cons:
-Lack of ready available cvds
-Alloy casing, depending on rock type can not slide as easy as plastic( these being delrin will stop that)
-You have to learn to watch for front pumpkin position with some lines( some times the xr had no issues)
-Need a lot of modification for optimal preformance( turning tubes,moding gearbox so servo will fit into location.
-Pinion gears
-tie rod location

Xr pros:
-Plastic housing slide great on most rock surfaces
-The under side shape is minimal and you don't need to worry to much about hanging up on the pumpkin.
-tie rod location
-when building nothing needs moding for the axles to be assembled.
-compact gearbox.more room for electrics on the axle.

Xr cons:
-maintanance , a lot of screws/bolts to split to get into gears
- no a lot of vendor support, axial and vp had the monopoly for the parts
- while still strong, not as strong as my berg. I broke more xr parts then berg.
-Servo location,servo horn always hangs down in the way
-battery on the axle,always in the rocks

I didn't mention cost, building a set of either from scratch with all new parts is a similar cost.
Some might not agree on some points made. Personally I like the alloy tubes, gearboxes and offset pumpkin. I also like my tie rod in front and above the gear box.

 

[obebaldone1]

Looking good. You definitely got the rear links on the low low. I stoled this picture from Big rons thread but some of the builders are not even using the rear link mount and just using spacer right to the case. Just a thought.

 

[Crawllife]

I've been back n forth on this topic baldy. I like the mount because I dig options. I think you guys can get away with the spacer because it's the ideal spot for that particular chassis. I'm not sure if it works universally. However I've found lower at the axle is better in most cases.


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[ClassiCutCustoms]

Well.... No updates tonight from Winner...... Guess he must be out on the rocks already.... Lol

 

[winnerone23]

David, I think you got my spare built shock as well? Lol..

Dude did a fine job IMO of explaining.. Far more in depth then I could have been.. Thanks dude..

For me, they seem simple in theory. Less goin on with them.
But, I felt more in depth to build right off the bat, then I can do a XR axle now.. Not in the beginning tho.. Lol.. I guess when you get so use to taking a XR axle down, you can do it between course's when need be.. Even twice in one comp at ringing rocks! Lol
I don't feel that the case, with these cases/axles..
They are very stout in feel and smooth in operation.

I had the pic of Ron's and looked over most of the ccc builds.. As I was talking to The Wise One.. He was talking and I was messing around. He explained Laziness was the ideal behind mounting them right to the case.. Lmao.. In my case, I didn't have a screw long enough to work without it..
So test, test, test I will do!

I, as with The Wise white bearded One, feel that lower could be a bonus. Simply just cause it's how my other rigs are setup and the rear case is pretty high, in comparison to the XR.

 

[winnerone23]

Well.... No updates tonight from Winner...... Guess he must be out on the rocks already.... Lol

Working on it.. Can't build and type at the same time.. It slows me down. And no need for that, might Time out..

 

[Crawllife]

I've owned both and didn't need an explanation directed towards me T. I was just curios if you had a " ah ha" moment when assembly came. Everyone is aware of the xr vs berg banter that goes on at every comp or on the forum. I've found it to be a no brainer to pick berg stuff to work on vs xr simply due to the lack of parts or split tubes. And what I grabbed from ya was new caps. Not full shocks


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[winnerone23]

I knew you didn't need it bro.. Just giving my own views.. Maybe it will help another member..

The single full shock was last year some time.. I'm not sure if it was you I gave it to or not. No worries either way. I forgot about it for this long.. Funny thing is, im missing a BB as well.. Wth do I do with 3 of them!?

 

[Crawllife]

Haha! Someone's gonna read this and hide their rig. Sorry dude, all my shocks are installed and matchy matchy. Hopefully someone comes clean on that one. The caps are super helpful tho


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[winnerone23]

Lol.. I hope not.. We can't have someone not show to the comp! Prolly Hildy then.. I got what I need anyways.. The shocks from the sss-rs feel real good on the rig.. So I'll get them rebuilt tonight, if I have time.

Cause it looks like a side street in Philly around here, right now!



Which causes this little tied up feeling in the Pit of my stomach..

 

[ClassiCutCustoms]

Too funny.... Now quit arguing over shocks and get that mess cleaned up! Lol.......