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Tommy R 01-10-2013 08:38 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by alaskancrawler (Post 4116879)
Tommy
How long are the touring car shocks your running? That is an awesome look lj

Thanks, man! I'm not really sure, but it seems most touring car shocks are pretty comparable in length. What I did was replace the piston shaft with a longer Axial piece. This got me the length I needed to work in the angled orientation of the shock. Seems to work okay...

Tommy R 01-10-2013 07:53 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Well, she's a runner! We have an event this weekend and I'd really like this rig to be running by then. It's only tentatively wired at the moment with the bare essentials: no winches, no BEC, no bumpers/sliders, etc. But I wanted to get it running because I wanted to test out the Dinky Divorce kit. Is the gearing going to be okay? Is the motor going to run hot? Is there going to be any binding?

So I got it running (on 3s for now) and I'm happy to report the rig seems to have very good low speed resolution and good top speed, too. The only issue I can really think of is that it's pretty loud. I suspect the issue is that I'm running a metal "spur" gear in the Gr7 unit under the hood. I will probably put a plastic gear in there to quiet it down. Other than that, I'm very encouraged by this setup! Hopefully tomorrow I can take it in to the backyard and try it on some rocks....instead of crawling over my shoes in the living room. :lmao:

It's just like a funny car! :ror:
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...0_203357-L.jpg

The temp. wiring:
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...0_203411-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...0_203417-L.jpg

I also bedlined the interior.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...0_203522-L.jpg

chino63 01-10-2013 08:09 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Looks great Tommy! "thumbsup"

Keep us posted on the magnets and how they do in a rollover/tumble, curious to see how it fares with them holding down the lid.

simp 01-10-2013 08:11 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
I gotta say one thing you got that front packed tight. Thers no way I could get that in there. Looks good!

chino63 01-10-2013 08:13 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Oh, one more thing, you need to figure out how to recline those darn bucket seats. :ror:

Tommy R 01-10-2013 08:18 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chino63 (Post 4118152)
Looks great Tommy! "thumbsup"

Keep us posted on the magnets and how they do in a rollover/tumble, curious to see how it fares with them holding down the lid.

Thanks, Dean! Well, I can tell you the magnets I have in there now will not likely hold in the event of a big rollover. A flop? Well, I did that tonight and it did fine. It'll need more holding power ultimately, but I've got stronger magnets arriving any day now. :mrgreen:

Quote:

Originally Posted by simp (Post 4118155)
I gotta say one thing you got that front packed tight. Thers no way I could get that in there. Looks good!

Thanks! Yeah, I had to pack it in tight since there's so little room under the body....except for under the hood. If I weren't using the Dinky setup, it'd look a LOT messier in there! :ror: But it appears I'll have room to fit a BEC, winch controller box, and a servo winch under there. This will be in addition to the front winch which will be mounted on the bumper. "thumbsup"

Tommy R 01-10-2013 08:20 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chino63 (Post 4118156)
Oh, one more thing, you need to figure out how to recline those darn bucket seats. :ror:

LOL! I'm 99% sure I'll be picking up some Wraith seats to pop in there. I think that'll look a lot better. :mrgreen:

chino63 01-10-2013 08:28 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy R (Post 4118172)
Thanks, Dean! Well, I can tell you the magnets I have in there now will not likely hold in the event of a big rollover. A flop? Well, I did that tonight and it did fine. It'll need more holding power ultimately, but I've got stronger magnets arriving any day now. :mrgreen:



How about a 12v electromagnet? I mean, you are running a 3s lipo....
Just think what that will do for all your electronics. :lmao:

While were at it, how about an EMP cannon on the front or back of a Wraith? "thumbsup"

Tommy R 01-11-2013 10:26 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Dean, you crazy!! :lmao:

cbp27 01-12-2013 12:32 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
What about 3M Dual Lock instead of magnets? It's a strong fastener like Velcro but more heavy duty. It's sold in black and clear. Sorry if it was already suggested. "thumbsup"

http://blog.applebazaar.com/wp-conte.../12/blocks.jpg

Tommy R 01-12-2013 08:45 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbp27 (Post 4120326)
What about 3M Dual Lock instead of magnets? It's a strong fastener like Velcro but more heavy duty. It's sold in black and clear. Sorry if it was already suggested. "thumbsup"

Thanks for the suggestion. I've typically used various forms of Velcro on my scalers over the years, but I'm wanting to try something different this time. One of the things I like about the magnets is that they center up to the exact same location each time. No aligning of the body is necessary. To address this, I usually add alignment guides to the body. Hoping this time I won't have to! "thumbsup"

Tommy R 01-12-2013 05:09 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
So I got to run the Jeep today. I was quite surprised 'cause it performed really well! I figured the extra rear weight from the cage would really hurt its performance, but not so much. I think I may even gear it up for a bit more speed. Although, it's tempting to just keep it the way it is and try 4s. We'll see... :mrgreen: Anyway, here's a couple pics from today...

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...2_115252-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...2_115433-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...2_115445-L.jpg

AJ. 01-13-2013 07:31 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Looking good! "thumbsup" Who stole the bumpers? :ror:

Tommy R 01-13-2013 01:36 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by AJ. (Post 4122107)
Looking good! "thumbsup" Who stole the bumpers? :ror:

Right! Yeah, I need to get rolling some finishing up the metal work on this rig now that it's running. :ror:

Agama 01-13-2013 05:45 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Jeep looks sweet. I like the way the cage turned out. Where did you get that air tank? I need one I those for my build.

"thumbsup" to 4 cell. The main reason I'm going to the roc 412 over another Pro 4 is the 412 can handle 4 cell.

neillarson 01-13-2013 06:29 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Looks good Tommy. Glad to see you back in the game. Another month or so and my new shop will be done and I am looking for a new C1 build myself to replace the current TF2.

Tommy R 01-14-2013 06:57 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Agama (Post 4122989)
Jeep looks sweet. I like the way the cage turned out. Where did you get that air tank? I need one I those for my build.

"thumbsup" to 4 cell. The main reason I'm going to the roc 412 over another Pro 4 is the 412 can handle 4 cell.

Thanks! The air tank came from Team3six (Norm). I don't think he sells them any longer, but I could be mistaken. 4 cell may happen at some point, but I think I'll stick with a conventional brushed motor for this rig since it's not modeled after an 800 hp rig! :lmao:

Quote:

Originally Posted by neillarson (Post 4123093)
Looks good Tommy. Glad to see you back in the game. Another month or so and my new shop will be done and I am looking for a new C1 build myself to replace the current TF2.

Thanks, Neil! Looking forward to see what you come up with...


Regarding my magnet idea, I think it's looking pretty good. It was a non-issue crawling over the weekend. Granted, I didn't abuse the truck, but it did flop a few times and even did an endo, but the body held pretty securely. Nonetheless, I know it's just a matter of time before those relatively weak magnets become an issue.

Over the weekend I took delivery of some new magnets that are about the size of a penny. I stacked 5 of them on the chassis as shown. I glued one to the underside of the body. The reason I used 6 magnets is simply because that gave me the height I needed to put the body where I wanted it.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...4_071837-L.jpg

Are they strong enough now? I think so....
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...4_071901-L.jpg

19_mustang_96 01-14-2013 03:30 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Very cool

alaskancrawler 01-14-2013 09:03 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Awesome build tommy like the magnet idea. Have a build I think I'm gonna use that on.

Tommy R 01-18-2013 07:42 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
JeremyH put together a video from this past weekend.
https://vimeo.com/57653973

Difuser 01-18-2013 08:18 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
For a guy who's driven that Hummer so much you wouldn't expect him to be such a Nancy on that side hill....

The Jeep looks great Tommy and also looks like it drives stable. Lets see some details... Bumpers lights etc. "thumbsup"

R2j 01-18-2013 08:26 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Looks like the LJ runs pretty good Tommy"thumbsup"




LOL! @ E's Mogmarine.....poor thing!

Tommy R 01-18-2013 08:41 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Difuser (Post 4131389)
For a guy who's driven that Hummer so much you wouldn't expect him to be such a Nancy on that side hill....

The Jeep looks great Tommy and also looks like it drives stable. Lets see some details... Bumpers lights etc. "thumbsup"

Right! :ror: In fairness, the consequences for rolling down that hill were dire. It was an 8' plunge into some some 8' deep water....without even a good way to get in/out to retrieve it. Needless to say, we were all really careful. Of course, that didn't stop me from trying to freak out Patrick while he drove the gate. :mrgreen:

Details are definitely coming. First I need to finish fab work. But in general, here's what's left:
- rear bumper/winch mount
- front bumper/winch mount
- rock sliders (probably chassis mounted)
- paint flares
- replace front seats
- determine how I want to address the extension in the rear quarters, i.e. polish them to match the ABS or build body armor to cover it
- and I may even move the front axle in a little bit

So lots left to do. 8)

Quote:

Originally Posted by R2j (Post 4131396)
Looks like the LJ runs pretty good Tommy"thumbsup"




LOL! @ E's Mogmarine.....poor thing!

Thanks, Shon! Yeah, I was frankly surprised. And the video didn't show some of its more impressive climbs. BTW, this thing turns on a dime! Way tighter than my Toyota's radius.

It was funny watching Eric abuse his rig. :ror:

bmuzz1 01-18-2013 11:01 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Like the others said, looks like it performed really well. Looking forward to the updates. 8)

y2ktj 01-18-2013 08:07 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Might have missed it but what is the wheelbase of the LJ? Looks killer.

Tommy R 01-19-2013 07:31 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmuzz1 (Post 4131615)
Like the others said, looks like it performed really well. Looking forward to the updates. 8)

Thanks, man! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2ktj (Post 4132434)
Might have missed it but what is the wheelbase of the LJ? Looks killer.

Thanks! It's right at 11.5", if I recall. I may shorten it just a bit. The front looks too stretched for the look I'm after.

Tommy R 01-20-2013 08:50 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Updates! And my apologies for the pics. They look rather fuzzy for some reason. :oops:

Got some bling in the mail from RPP yesterday. These are the 110mm length, but I think the 100's may have been a better choice. These limit my bump travel by a few millimeters and I'm not sure if all the droop travel will be a good thing. Testing will be coming...
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...0_213406-L.jpg

The springs are also a bit tall. Does anyone know if these springs are available in different lengths or rates? Looks like a pre-runner! Axial springs look to fit, but I'd like to keep them the same color.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...0_213555-L.jpg

Got the rear bumper finished and installed.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...0_213506-L.jpg

Very simple mount for the rear winch. It's attached directly to the body's underside and slides right between the frame rails. Now I just need to bend up some tube for routing the winch line and it'll be done.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...0_213423-L.jpg

Tommy R 01-21-2013 06:27 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Mr. LockedUpRC himself took some pics from our last get together and here they are. Thanks, Patrick! "thumbsup" BTW, that's his black H2 in some of the pics. Can you tell which one of us is waterproofed? :lmao:

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN0020-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN0004-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN0007-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN0011-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN0014-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN9997-L.jpg

adamargue 01-21-2013 06:43 AM

My buddy used the original rc4wd duel spring shocks and used mini-t springs to soften them up. I don't know if these are the same diameter as the old ones though.

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TJ Steve 01-21-2013 12:15 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Wow Tommy, this thing looks great! Glad to see you built another Jeep. I was shocked when you got rid of the TJ, it ran so well. Looks like this one is a worker too 8) You always do some fantastic builds my friend "thumbsup"

simp 01-21-2013 01:17 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
The jeep looked like it performed good in the vid. Those wheels look great on there and the stance is perfect!, also you got my vote on the body armor I would do it in black! Waiting on front bumper. Keep up the great work!

Krawler Konceptz 01-21-2013 01:40 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by Tommy R (Post 4136127)
Mr. LockedUpRC himself took some pics from our last get together and here they are. Thanks, Patrick! "thumbsup" BTW, that's his black H2 in some of the pics. Can you tell which one of us is waterproofed? :lmao:

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN0020-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN0004-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN0007-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN0011-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN0014-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...DSCN9997-L.jpg

Time to get the New KK license plates:mrgreen:"thumbsup"

Tommy R 01-21-2013 02:41 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adamargue (Post 4136136)
My buddy used the original rc4wd duel spring shocks and used mini-t springs to soften them up. I don't know if these are the same diameter as the old ones though.

Thanks. The Axial springs fit, but I want to keep with blue springs so they match....and I'd rather not paint them. Always nice to have options, though! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ Steve (Post 4136563)
Wow Tommy, this thing looks great! Glad to see you built another Jeep. I was shocked when you got rid of the TJ, it ran so well. Looks like this one is a worker too 8) You always do some fantastic builds my friend "thumbsup"

Thanks a lot, Steve! Yeah, the TJ worked well, but for Class 1, I couldn't run a comp cut body. Not to mention I always wanted an LJ anyway. There's still some hurdles to overcome, but the rig is continuing to make progress so it's all good. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by simp (Post 4136667)
The jeep looked like it performed good in the vid. Those wheels look great on there and the stance is perfect!, also you got my vote on the body armor I would do it in black! Waiting on front bumper. Keep up the great work!

Thanks! Yeah, I'm going to see if I can make some clean body armor for it. And if I do, it'll definitely be painted black so it doesn't stand out too much. I just ran into a problem with the front bumper. Going to see if I can resolve it tonight. :cry:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krawler Konceptz (Post 4136693)
Time to get the New KK license plates:mrgreen:"thumbsup"

LOL! Well, it's got one now, but I'll likely need a newer one soon. I'll definitely let you know! "thumbsup"

ray2286 01-21-2013 07:09 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
it looks great, when can we go run it? i need to trial test my 4 door hilux

Tommy R 01-21-2013 07:13 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ray2286 (Post 4137252)
it looks great, when can we go run it? i need to trial test my 4 door hilux

Thanks, Ray! It won't be "done", but I think I could get it out for a run sometime this weekend.....possibly later this week if I can get out of work early enough. Unfortunately, work has had me there 'til after dark lately and the LJ doesn't have lights.....yet! :ror:

I've been dying to do another run up "the ascent" like we did some time back! "thumbsup"

Falon 01-21-2013 10:16 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
I used losi mini lst spring and losi mrc blue spring on mine. They are a little soft but but a little oil fixed the bouncyness.

Tommy R 01-22-2013 05:57 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Falon (Post 4137585)
I used losi mini lst spring and losi mrc blue spring on mine. They are a little soft but but a little oil fixed the bouncyness.

That's what's weird about these shocks. The spring rate seems very soft, but the springs are so long I can't get the ride height low enough. I think what I need is shorter springs, but a similar rate. We'll see. The front bumper still needs to go on, along with the winch and some more electronics so I'll be adding quite a bit more weight. It may level it out just fine.

Speaking of the front bumper, I should make some progress tonight. I had an issue I noticed yesterday where the front of the body wasn't exactly lined up properly with the chassis. This would've become painfully obvious after I built a bumper. So I had to remove the magnet under the hood and reposition it in the right location. That's all done now so hopefully I can get back to work on the bumper tonight.

The issue is that I want a little, stubby bumper, but C1 rules mandate the bumper be as wide as the windshield. So I'll have to compromise what I want for what is legal. Maybe I'll make two bumpers....one legal bumper and one good looking bumper! :ror:

ser3100 01-22-2013 06:29 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Sick Jeep man! Cant believe i didnt see this before. I guess i spend way too much time in the 1.55 section. I love it! Any plans for rocker protection?

Tommy R 01-22-2013 07:07 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ser3100 (Post 4137846)
Sick Jeep man! Cant believe i didnt see this before. I guess i spend way too much time in the 1.55 section. I love it! Any plans for rocker protection?

High praise from Mr. LJ himself!! :) Thanks, man! Yeah, I definitely plan on rocker protection. I'm debating between attaching them to the body like on my 1:1 or maybe make them mount to the chassis underneath. Since this rig looks like it has quite a body lift, I thought adding rocker protection underneath might help to visually lower it. If I do that, I'll likely modify the sliders from my Toyota.

So it's between rocker protection like this:
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...IMG_8140-L.jpg

Or like this (but tucked in a bit better):
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...IMG_1758-L.jpg

monkeyracer 01-22-2013 07:45 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy R (Post 4137828)
That's what's weird about these shocks. The spring rate seems very soft, but the springs are so long I can't get the ride height low enough. I think what I need is shorter springs, but a similar rate. We'll see. The front bumper still needs to go on, along with the winch and some more electronics so I'll be adding quite a bit more weight. It may level it out just fine.

What about chopping a couple coils off these springs? retain the rate, drop the height?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy R (Post 4137828)
Speaking of the front bumper, I should make some progress tonight. I had an issue I noticed yesterday where the front of the body wasn't exactly lined up properly with the chassis. This would've become painfully obvious after I built a bumper. So I had to remove the magnet under the hood and reposition it in the right location. That's all done now so hopefully I can get back to work on the bumper tonight.

The issue is that I want a little, stubby bumper, but C1 rules mandate the bumper be as wide as the windshield. So I'll have to compromise what I want for what is legal. Maybe I'll make two bumpers....one legal bumper and one good looking bumper! :ror:

I like the idea of making two bumpers. Make the legal one simple and just enough to make width, and the real one for non-comps the way you want it to look.


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