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Tommy R 01-22-2013 08:18 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by monkeyracer (Post 4137922)
What about chopping a couple coils off these springs? retain the rate, drop the height?



I like the idea of making two bumpers. Make the legal one simple and just enough to make width, and the real one for non-comps the way you want it to look.

Cutting the springs is certainly an option. If need be, I'll definitely consider doing that. "thumbsup"

I'm rather torn on the idea of making 2 bumpers. :cry: I think I'd rather put more effort into designing a nice looking and legal C1 bumper and just leave it on there. But we'll see... If I don't 100% love the bumper, I may make a little stubby bumper for get-togethers. :mrgreen:

R2j 01-22-2013 09:11 AM

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That C1 bumper rule may have to be looked at again for 2014. I know it's been discussed, but to me, the "jeep" type vehicles are not the same body type as a pick-up or SUV. There are all kinds of 1:1 aftermarket front bumpers for "street driven" Jeeps that would not pass in C1. For example, if you wanted to build a scale replica of this TJ....
Attachment 223560

It is obvious it is a daily driver, but yet has a stubby winch bumper. Just an observation.:mrgreen: Sorry for mucking up your build Tommy. Keep up the great work!

Tommy R 01-22-2013 09:24 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by R2j (Post 4138055)
That C1 bumper rule may have to be looked at again for 2014. I know it's been discussed, but to me, the "jeep" type vehicles are not the same body type as a pick-up or SUV. There are all kinds of 1:1 aftermarket front bumpers for "street driven" Jeeps that would not pass in C1. For example, if you wanted to build a scale replica of this TJ....

It is obvious it is a daily driver, but yet has a stubby winch bumper. Just an observation.:mrgreen: Sorry for mucking up your build Tommy. Keep up the great work!

LOL! I actually don't have to look beyond my garage to see a daily driven TJ with a stubby bumper with a winch mount. :ror: But I understand the reasoning behind the rules. The committee (which I've retired from, BTW) needs to make the rules so no rigs have a significant advantage. My Jeep won't look as good, but that's okay. I think the rule is still a good thing. "thumbsup"

Thanks for the kind words, Shon! :)

adamargue 01-22-2013 09:30 AM

Could you do a bumper like the rampage front bumper for the jk. Its legal width but gives you better clearance like a stubby one would. Maybe even make it out of tube?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/23/ma7u4yja.jpg

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Tommy R 01-22-2013 09:39 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by adamargue (Post 4138079)
Could you do a bumper like the rampage front bumper for the jk. Its legal width but gives you better clearance like a stubby one would. Maybe even make it out of tube?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/23/ma7u4yja.jpg

That's actually VERY similar to what I've got planned! "thumbsup"

R2j 01-22-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy R (Post 4138071)
LOL! I actually don't have to look beyond my garage to see a daily driven TJ with a stubby bumper with a winch mount. :ror: But I understand the reasoning behind the rules. The committee (which I've retired from, BTW) needs to make the rules so no rigs have a significant advantage. My Jeep won't look as good, but that's okay. I think the rule is still a good thing. "thumbsup"

Thanks for the kind words, Shon! :)

Well I didn't have a picture of your TJ handy, so that was the next best thing.:lmao:

I get the rule, I just look at it from the appearance aspect, and what you choose to build. And really don't see a huge advantage over a stubby Jeep bumper or something like this.....
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...7-dscn3993.jpg
This wasn't a C1 rig but the bumper fit C1 rules "as wide as windshield". I know that compromises have to be made though."thumbsup"

Tommy R 01-22-2013 01:38 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by R2j (Post 4138112)
Well I didn't have a picture of your TJ handy, so that was the next best thing.:lmao:

I get the rule, I just look at it from the appearance aspect, and what you choose to build. And really don't see a huge advantage over a stubby Jeep bumper or something like this.....

This wasn't a C1 rig but the bumper fit C1 rules "as wide as windshield". I know that compromises have to be made though."thumbsup"

HAHA! Yeah, I hear ya, but I think for C1 it's a good rule to keep. As much as I love Jeeps, we shouldn't get any unfair advantages....although our rigs would look a lot nicer if we did! :mrgreen:

R2j 01-22-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy R (Post 4138463)
HAHA! Yeah, I hear ya, but I think for C1 it's a good rule to keep. As much as I love Jeeps, we shouldn't get any unfair advantages....although our rigs would look a lot nicer if we did! :mrgreen:

Just stirring the pot.:mrgreen:

We wouldn't want anybodies feel goods getting hurt because a Jeep out crawled them.:lmao:

Are you thinking tube or plate type like the one above?

Tommy R 01-22-2013 02:20 PM

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LOL! Well, I'm now about 90% sure it'll end up a narrower, hopefully(!) slightly better looking version of this:

http://www.autotrucktoys.com/jeep/im...bilt-Jeep-.jpg

But I reserve the right to change my mind at any point in time! :mrgreen:

Tommy R 01-22-2013 09:03 PM

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Got the front bumper started and winch mounted.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...2_215138-L.jpg

Of course, it was after I did all the work (more than you might think) when I realized it was angled down a bit too far. This pic exaggerated it, though. It's not quite that bad. Now to build some tube work around it....and to protect that fancy winch. :mrgreen:
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...2_215253-L.jpg

Tommy R 01-23-2013 06:37 PM

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Front bumper is basically done. I'm pretty happy with it...

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...3_191652-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...3_191719-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...3_192637-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...3_191622-L.jpg

bmuzz1 01-23-2013 06:44 PM

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Great looking bumper Tommy and shouldn't get in the way. Way to stay within C1 spec and still look cool. 8)

R2j 01-23-2013 08:25 PM

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Looks good Tommy! I like it"thumbsup"

Tommy R 01-23-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bmuzz1 (Post 4140825)
Great looking bumper Tommy and shouldn't get in the way. Way to stay within C1 spec and still look cool. 8)

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Originally Posted by R2j (Post 4141056)
Looks good Tommy! I like it"thumbsup"

Thanks, fellas! I'm pretty pleased with it. I also got my radio set up to control both winches. Now I'm waiting on some Shoe Goo to dry to see if my rear winch line routing will hold up. Should know by tomorrow.

So front and rear bumpers are done. Front and rear winches are pretty much done. I guess next up will be rock sliders, wiring the electronics, and maybe build some body armor. It's coming along....

Tommy R 01-24-2013 10:44 PM

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Don't tell me you've ever seen a more beautiful winch mount. 'Cause I know you'd be lying! :lmao:
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...4_233837-L.jpg

I JB Welded the brake line routing to the servo case. VERY limited space, but this is holding up very well! Pretty pleased with it.....but very happy it won't be seen normally. :ror:

Tommy R 01-28-2013 07:04 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
I did another trail run yesterday. Overall, the Jeep performed well. I'm not sure I like those King shocks more than the stockers, though. They're actually too soft. I'm going to try much heavier shock oil to see if that'll help get the front a bit more stable. But I really wish I wouldn't abuse my rigs before they're even completed! The Jeep took a ton of big rolls yesterday....in some cases barrel rolling a good 10' down a rocky hill. I ended up breaking off both side mirrors. :evil: On the bright side, the cage held super strong and the magnets held the body in check perfectly! :mrgreen: And absolutely no failures during our 2+ hour long run. I even got to check out the CLAW winch and it worked like a charm!

I only snapped one pic so here ya go...
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...7_141433-L.jpg

ray2286 01-28-2013 05:11 PM

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that claw winch worked great, you upgrade that cable yet?

finishline 01-28-2013 09:44 PM

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How is that bobin spool holding up. I have not had any luck with them.

TURTLE 01-28-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by finishline (Post 4150178)
How is that bobin spool holding up. I have not had any luck with them.

When I run a servo winch in my crawlers (90% of the time). I run the bobbin set up and personally have never had an issue with it. Maybe your doing something wonky?

Tommy R 01-29-2013 07:46 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by ray2286 (Post 4149522)
that claw winch worked great, you upgrade that cable yet?

Sure did! And yep, got some new line (and hooks) in from Locked Up RC. "thumbsup"

Quote:

Originally Posted by finishline (Post 4150178)
How is that bobin spool holding up. I have not had any luck with them.

Holding up great! In fact, this is like the 3rd rig this winch has been on. No complaints....even with an 11 lb. truck!

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Originally Posted by TURTLE (Post 4150260)
When I run a servo winch in my crawlers (90% of the time). I run the bobbin set up and personally have never had an issue with it. Maybe your doing something wonky?

Yeah, I agree. Mine's been super reliable, too!

finishline 01-29-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TURTLE (Post 4150260)
When I run a servo winch in my crawlers (90% of the time). I run the bobbin set up and personally have never had an issue with it. Maybe your doing something wonky?

Could be that I may not have the line running in directly to the center of the bobin. Thinking any pressure one way or another will cause it to fail. Ill have to try this set up"thumbsup"

Tommy R 01-29-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by finishline (Post 4151138)
Could be that I may not have the line running in directly to the center of the bobin. Thinking any pressure one way or another will cause it to fail. Ill have to try this set up"thumbsup"

Yeah, I would think not having the line lined up well could cause issues. I always use some sort of guidance system for the winch line. "thumbsup"

jkabee 01-29-2013 01:06 PM

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Great looking build, Tommy. Kudos on the magnet idea. (I'll be stealing that for my "Total Newb TJ" build in the SCX-10 forum).

Tommy R 01-29-2013 01:17 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by jkabee (Post 4151200)
Great looking build, Tommy. Kudos on the magnet idea. (I'll be stealing that for my "Total Newb TJ" build in the SCX-10 forum).

Thanks a lot! I'm totally happy with the magnet idea. Just make sure to get some strong ones. :mrgreen:

alaskancrawler 02-03-2013 01:50 AM

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Tommy
Have you ran those rear shocks on a class 2 rig? If so what can I expect?

Tommy R 02-04-2013 08:12 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by alaskancrawler (Post 4159544)
Tommy
Have you ran those rear shocks on a class 2 rig? If so what can I expect?

I sure haven't, but I suspect they should do fine. I'd have no problem giving it a try. "thumbsup"

alaskancrawler 02-05-2013 01:15 AM

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Thanks tommy

Tommy R 02-11-2013 06:20 AM

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We did a trail run this past weekend. As luck would have it my motor crapped out on me before we even hit the trail so a friend let me borrow his awesomely massive Defender 110 with tiny little 1.55s on it. It was slow, it was top heavy, it didn't have much traction........and it was AWESOME! I had so much fun wheelin' that thing all day long! So I decided I'm going to tweak the LJ a bit and go for a bit less performance in favor of more realism. The biggest offender in the LJ? Those wide a$$ axles!

Would anyone be interested in trading some VERY built Axial axles for some K44s? :mrgreen:

salmonfacesalad 02-11-2013 06:38 AM

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Nice choice. It's like going from your full width rock crawler TJ and hopping in your friends stock-ish YJ with no lockers and 33's and remembering how fun it was to wheel something with less performance. Albeit frustrating at times but still fun.




Your gonna love those K44's, they will look right at home under this LJ. "thumbsup"

Any plans for 1.55 wheels by chance? Do you think Patrick will ever make 1.55 wheels for LockedupRC?

Tommy R 02-11-2013 06:52 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by salmonfacesalad (Post 4173753)
Nice choice. It's like going from your full width rock crawler TJ and hopping in your friends stock-ish YJ with no lockers and 33's and remembering how fun it was to wheel something with less performance. Albeit frustrating at times but still fun.




Your gonna love those K44's, they will look right at home under this LJ. "thumbsup"

Any plans for 1.55 wheels by chance? Do you think Patrick will ever make 1.55 wheels for LockedupRC?

Yeah, it really does make a difference wheeling a less capable rig. It's much more like 1:1 wheelin'! It sparked an interest in an old build that's been on the back burner for sometime. Expect a resurrected build thread soon. ;-)

I'm not sure if Patrick has plans for 1.55s, but now that I'll be moving to narrower axles I definitely have plans for some 1.55s. Fortunately, I've already got a set of great looking 1.55s: RC4WD Voids (i.e. Walker Evans). "thumbsup"

Tommy R 02-11-2013 06:57 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Rock sliders have begun! I couldn't stand those bare rockers any longer! ;-) They're steel so some tube will be welded/brazed to them. The hardare is all 2-56 panhead but I may see how the 2mm scale hardware looks on there instead.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_194245-L.jpg

Should provide some nice coverage underneath, too.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_194255-L.jpg

alaskancrawler 02-11-2013 08:45 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Tommy what weight oil is in your rear shocks? If you don't mind my asking.

Tommy R 02-11-2013 08:55 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
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Originally Posted by alaskancrawler (Post 4175198)
Tommy what weight oil is in your rear shocks? If you don't mind my asking.

Good question! I suspect maybe 45 WT? I honestly don't recall. I likely went heavier than normal due to the limited shock travel since it's angled so much.

alaskancrawler 02-12-2013 09:32 AM

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Makes sense thanks

Tommy R 02-16-2013 10:09 AM

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I can't deny it. 1.55s look so much more scale than 1.9s on this rig.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf..._103916-XL.jpg

So I'm definitely going to narrow the track width on this Jeep, which will also help me tuck 1.55s better (since 1.55s don't have much backspacing).

If anyone has some Wraith axles for sale (stock or modified), let me know. I may also be interested in a trade with my fully build SCX10 axles. "thumbsup"

Mackspower 02-18-2013 04:00 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
I agree the 1.55 wheels look much better! Nice build! "thumbsup"

Bananaclip 02-19-2013 05:44 AM

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Nice, build tommy! I just picked up a few NB TJ lids so an LJ is in my future. I am also on the hunt for a nice 1.1 LJ. I just got rid of my highly modded 1.1 xj. "thumbsup"

STANG KILLA SS 02-19-2013 07:01 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
that looks awesome Tommy!

Tommy R 02-19-2013 08:01 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Thanks, y'all. Yeah, I think 1.55s are the way to go. I love my Locked Up RC wheels, but they'll just have to go on my Class 2 build instead....

Bananaclip 02-19-2013 08:28 AM

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Locked up needs to produce some 1.5's.


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