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STANG KILLA SS 11-27-2013 02:58 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
haha don't turn into a Eric! :lmao: just pick a class and get this thing on the rocks!

for what its worth Tommy I think the WB on this rig works best for C0 or C1. and the flares are too cool to hack off for c2

good luck and cant wait for the updates! (and Eric I hope you can read my usual sarcasm/intended humor in the above post :mrgreen: )

Tommy R 11-27-2013 03:09 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Well, for the time being it's a Class 1.5 rig! The tire clearance isn't enough for C1, but otherwise it's entirely C1 legal. And truth be told, I'm DYING to run those Pit Bull Rock Beasts and don't know see any other C2 builds on my horizon. This would be the closest. I'm going to get it running with the current drivetrain, but before I buy any axles I need to decide:

- Buy Yota axles and keep it C1 or
- Keep the Axial axles and hack off the fender flares for C2

In the meantime, I've got work to do! And paint is drying as I type...

I've got some other C1 ideas... Maybe a New Bright JK shortened to a 2 door? I've also thought about resurrecting my old F350 body and making an expedition style wheeler out of it. Hell, I don't know what I'm going to do... Maybe I should continue with my initial plan to build a 4 door JK KoH type rig... Decisions, decisions.... :ror:

Tommy R 12-02-2013 10:35 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Okay, decision has been made. Getting some Yota II axles for the LJ. I found a front axle in stock, but will need to locate a rear axle relatively soon...

Tommy R 12-02-2013 03:27 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Did some research and it appears stock TLTs are nearly the exact same width as Yota axles. I have some TLTs so if I can't locate a Yota axle, I'll just run a TLT for the time being. A bonus is that the Yotas have a 2.53 ratio and the TLTs are 2.67 so I'd have just a bit of over/underdrive, too. "thumbsup"

chino63 12-02-2013 04:33 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Tommy, sorry to say but if I recall correctly the yota r&p ratio is the same as tlt. Count teeth, I never trust the numbers they post.

Nice looking with the growlers on it. "thumbsup"



Edit: Just counted a yota axle R&P, 40/15 so 2.666

Tommy R 12-02-2013 10:33 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Thanks, Dean! That's okay, though. The OD/UD was going to be such a small difference anyway it likely wouldn't have made any difference. When is RC4WD ever going to come out with optional ratios for their axles??? :cry:

chino63 12-02-2013 11:54 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy R (Post 4572413)
Thanks, Dean! That's okay, though. The OD/UD was going to be such a small difference anyway it likely wouldn't have made any difference. When is RC4WD ever going to come out with optional ratios for their axles??? :cry:

NP Tommy, my OG yota does just fine with same ratio axles.

Agreed. Been asking for that for quite awhile now. Hopefully someone who matters sees this thread and at least pretends it's their idea and makes it happen. :mrgreen:

Tommy R 12-08-2013 12:54 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Been working on reassembly of the chassis. It's all painted in flat black to more closely resemble a real chassis and not "stand out". I also decided to paint the bumpers and cage in flat black instead of satin to differentiate better it from the black gloss of the body....however, that may change soon and I may paint the bumper/cage satin again.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...8_133932-L.jpg

I also went with black hardware so it won't stand out (it was all stainless before).
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...8_134003-L.jpg

Body is all prepped and sanded awaiting masking, primer, and paint. But I've decided to paint it a different color now. Just don't like the black color so I'm thinking of making it a bit more....vibrant. I'm going to test out the new color before I paint everything to see if I dig it. Pics coming once it warms up enough to paint! :roll:
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...8_134045-L.jpg

Tommy R 12-08-2013 12:56 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Locked Up RC located a rear axle for me so that should be here within a few days. I found a front axle at RPP and ordered it well over a week ago, but it's in limbo and I have no clue when it's supposed to arrive. :evil:

justinart24 12-08-2013 02:20 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Looking good...good choice on the RC4WD axles, they have really been stepping up their game. With the new CVDs they have out, you can get some good steering out of them and I really like how narrow they are. They just need to get some UD and OD gears.:mrgreen: Also, if you want some more beef, I have heard good things about the Helical Gear Set (>LINK<).

Tommy R 12-08-2013 02:24 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Thanks, Justin! Yeah, I've been warned about the stock gear set. But I've kind of changed my mentality regarding wheelin' this rig. From now on, I'm not going to drive it like an idiot. I'm going to drive it more similarly to the way I drive my 1:1 Jeep. Some people may say that's the same thing, but whatEVA!!! :flipoff: Anyway, hopefully the gears will survive....

Yeah, hopefully RC4WD will one day come up with some OD/UD gears for us, but in the meantime I'll use some of the new XVDs. They seem pretty stout so hopefully they'll hold up! :)

eric113 12-08-2013 07:33 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Are you getting the new front yota axle with the 8* c hubs and knuckles ?
I heard the new cvd's for yota axle is suppose to be stronger and have more throw.

Tommy R 12-08-2013 07:39 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric113 (Post 4580485)
Are you getting the new front yota axle with the 8* c hubs and knuckles ?
I heard the new cvd's for yota axle is suppose to be stronger and have more throw.

It's the Yota II axles and it appears they have some kingpin inclination. Not sure if it's 8* or not, but I suspect it's the ones you're referring to. And yeah, I've heard good things about the new CVDs. 45* of throw, IIRC. "thumbsup"

Tommy R 12-09-2013 02:16 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Waterproofing some of the electronics. The ESC (Tekin FXR) and receiver are both soaking in Corrosion X. The servo (Hitec 7950) will get a light coating of the stuff, but I'm not going to submerge it in CX. The rest of the electronics will also be waterproofed. I want to be able to entirely submerge this thing without any worries.

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...9_132329-L.jpg

myth619 12-09-2013 03:40 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
What is Corrosion X? How does it water proof the electronics.

justinart24 12-09-2013 03:43 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy R (Post 4581599)
Waterproofing some of the electronics. The ESC (Tekin FXR) and receiver are both soaking in Corrosion X. The servo (Hitec 7950) will get a light coating of the stuff, but I'm not going to submerge it in CX. The rest of the electronics will also be waterproofed. I want to be able to entirely submerge this thing without any worries.

Will you please quit watching DJMedic videos.:mrgreen:

Tommy R 12-09-2013 03:46 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myth619 (Post 4581690)
What is Corrosion X? How does it water proof the electronics.

It is a liquid that bonds to and forms a thin liquid/oily barrier for the electronic components. It feels oily afterward, which is why I removed the electronics from their plastic enclosures to apply the goop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinart24 (Post 4581694)
Will you please quit watching DJMedic videos.:mrgreen:

LOL!! Get outta here! This method is too high tech for him. :flipoff:

myth619 12-09-2013 08:01 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Does it wear off over time?

fr8cture 12-09-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myth619 (Post 4582098)
Does it wear off over time?

I would re apply every few months.

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Tommy R 12-09-2013 11:02 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fr8cture (Post 4582206)
I would re apply every few months.

^This is not a bad idea. But in my case, I plan on re-applying every year or so, depending on how often it goes under water. But from what I've read, guys who fly rc seaplanes re-apply only once/year so I figured that should be sufficient for me, too.

onecool54@yahoo 12-10-2013 12:47 AM

I know this is rc but you said you had a model A. My daughter lives in Frisco, TX. I hope to stay with her next year for lone star. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/10/gy5udu7e.jpg

From Me, By Me, to You.

Tommy R 12-10-2013 07:17 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Nice looking Tudor, man! That's really close to the blue I'm considering for my A. Unfortunately, it's still a long way from paint, thought. :cry: If you come down here for the Round Up, shoot me a PM and we can meet up. It's always amazing to me how many RC guys are into traditional hot rods, too. "thumbsup"

Tommy R 12-17-2013 09:20 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
After trying to get the RC4WD K44/Yota truss to work for me, I've decided to make my own, but I'll use the RC4WD lower link mounts. I just bent some relatively thick brass. 3/4" wide and I think .060" thick. I would've liked thicker, but I think this will work out fine and the lower profile may help with up travel.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...7_101439-L.jpg

Clears the top of the pumpkin just fine. Now I need to braze on a mount for the upper 3rd link and then determine where I want the track bar mount.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...7_101342-L.jpg

Tommy R 12-17-2013 07:52 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
A little more progress...
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...7_112154-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...7_194537-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...7_204949-L.jpg

It's a little wider than I'd prefer and I thought about thinning it down a bit, but would rather keep the strength so I'll leave it as is.

4RunnerKid 12-18-2013 11:09 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
truss looks good, Tommy. any thoughts on brazing in some plate(s) to close it up next to the axle? that'd really set this thing off... 8) it'd also strengthen the truss itself.
http://www.artecindustries.com/asset.../TJ-truss3.jpg

Tommy R 12-18-2013 12:29 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Thanks, Mikey. I thought about it, but it would just further "bulkify" the front axle and right now that's my biggest concern. Yes, that's a technical term. LOL!

chino63 12-18-2013 05:32 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Procrastination of the bulkificaton could lead to catastrophic failure in a crawling situation. Therefore, I vote for at least some sort of fortification. :flipoff:

Tommy R 12-19-2013 02:46 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chino63 (Post 4593301)
Procrastination of the bulkificaton could lead to catastrophic failure in a crawling situation. Therefore, I vote for at least some sort of fortification. :flipoff:

LOL! Nice try, Dean. :lmao:

Tommy R 12-21-2013 06:59 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Well, I wanted to wait to share pics 'til it was completely done, but it's not. I still have a few things to do (lights, some paint touch-ups, accessorizing, electronics, etc.), but the exterior appearance is nearly done. Here ya go...

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_193455-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_193516-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_193743-L.jpg

Finished the sliders...
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_194222-L.jpg

Bumpsteer is pretty minimal. Certainly acceptable for a crawler.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_193843-L.jpg

Front links will be replaced with black ones soon.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_194249-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_193932-L.jpg

It's even got a driver!
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_195437-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_195454-L.jpg

The green doesn't look as faded as it looks in the pics. My phone takes mediocre pics at best. :cry: The color turned out to be very close to Electric Lime Green, which was a factory offering for Jeeps. That was completely coincidental, though. I just picked it 'cause I liked it. :ror:

Like I said, I still have a lot left to do, but this is how it sits as of tonight.

adamargue 12-21-2013 07:01 PM

Looks great man. Definitely one of my favorite class ones.

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SAL45 12-22-2013 07:08 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Looks good Tommy! Nice and clean "thumbsup"

chino63 12-22-2013 10:57 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy R (Post 4594630)
LOL! Nice try, Dean. :lmao:

What can I say, I'm a rhe-tard.

Super clean work as usual Tommy. Let's see some video please! "thumbsup"

canadianbacon 12-22-2013 01:11 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Wow, that looks incredible, nice job "thumbsup"

Tommy R 12-22-2013 08:07 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adamargue (Post 4597339)
Looks great man. Definitely one of my favorite class ones.

Thanks a lot! I've still got some tricks up my sleeve to make it better. Hopefully sooner rather than later!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAL45 (Post 4597708)
Looks good Tommy! Nice and clean "thumbsup"

Thanks, Scott! We need to do some wheelin' again soon...

Quote:

Originally Posted by chino63 (Post 4597899)
What can I say, I'm a rhe-tard.

Super clean work as usual Tommy. Let's see some video please! "thumbsup"

The first step is admitting it, Dean! LOL! :mrgreen: I'm going to work on the final electronics install, lighting, and some tweaks. Then it'll be ready for the trail. Hopefully within the week...

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadianbacon (Post 4598012)
Wow, that looks incredible, nice job "thumbsup"

Thanks a bunch! "thumbsup"

Tommy R 12-31-2013 06:06 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
A bit of an update....

I ordered up some LEDs from HeyOK and am prepping the body. This'll be my first time building a set of LEDs. Hopefully I can come away with a clean install! It might be tough, though. Here's an example why. Here I reamed out the front grill for the headlight LEDs. No problem, right?
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_182141-L.jpg

Well, look how far they stick out compared to the other side which has the lens installed.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_182154-L.jpg

This is how far back the LED gets pushed back to clear the lens. I don't want a bunch of light inside the body so I guess I'll have to coat it with a bunch of liquid electrical tape or something. Or perhaps I can cover the exposed area of the LED with a bushing to help cut down the light?
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_182217-L.jpg

I also started installing some Locked Up RC scale hardware where I thought it was appropriate.
http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_184755-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_184631-L.jpg

http://tommyr.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stuf...1_184850-L.jpg

chino63 12-31-2013 09:32 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
For the LED's, if you don't mind losing the focus and just want light, I took mine to the belt sander and shortened some as far as I could. For the back just use some black heat shrink.

BTW, Patrick's hardware looks awesome on there. I need to get me some of that stuff.

stick-boy-rick 12-31-2013 09:37 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
In the case of moving your LED back from the headlight bucket, ive used a couple of rubber O-rings on the base of the LED and they worked perfect. They also kept the illumination under the body to a minimum aswell.

SAL45 01-01-2014 08:17 AM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Looks great Tommy! I really like the sliders and cage you did!

Tommy R 01-01-2014 06:55 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chino63 (Post 4608514)
For the LED's, if you don't mind losing the focus and just want light, I took mine to the belt sander and shortened some as far as I could. For the back just use some black heat shrink.

BTW, Patrick's hardware looks awesome on there. I need to get me some of that stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stick-boy-rick (Post 4608520)
In the case of moving your LED back from the headlight bucket, ive used a couple of rubber O-rings on the base of the LED and they worked perfect. They also kept the illumination under the body to a minimum aswell.

Thanks, guys! I really like the heat shrink idea. I'll try that first. If I don't like it, I may try sanding down the extra lens material.

Dean, yeah, Patrick's hardware really is great. Highly recommended!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAL45 (Post 4608841)
Looks great Tommy! I really like the sliders and cage you did!

Thanks, Scott! I'm pretty pleased with both. Not particularly fancy or ground-breaking designs, but functional and exactly what you're likely to see on a street/trail Jeep in real life. :)

sgtsteve 01-01-2014 10:19 PM

Re: Tommy's Class 1 Jeep
 
Fantastic work Tommy"thumbsup" So clean and simple. Hopefully we get to see it on the trails this year:mrgreen:

Edit...Just noticed you had Patricks scale hardware holding the inner ring. I never figured anyone would notice but dang, its obvious now, I must do mine"thumbsup"


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