True 2.2 scale?

[mhuffman_81]

How is it possible to have a true scale 2.2 RC? Are you using 1/10 bodies or something bigger? At 1/10 scale a 5.5" tire would be 55" on a real vehicle, which is absurd. I don't understand how it can be true scale with those size tires. I am looking to build a 2.2 scaler in a few months and just curious as to the trueness of the scale tires and wheels.

[Szczerba]

If the tires/wheels look proportional to the body/chassis being used then who cares how it scales out to 1:1.

Check out the 2.2 scale sections and see what everybody is running and see how you like the looks. You might even want to run 1.55 wheels/tires to get a better scale look. I like a mix of form and function on scalers. Some that will crawl great and looks pretty close to a 1:1.

[sloppy]

Why is a 55" tire "absurd"????




OK this one may be absurd but it looks pretty fun


and Yes many bodies are larger then 1/10 scale and some are smaller then 1/10 scale..

[mhuffman_81]

[QUOTE=sloppy;3041682]Why is a 55" tire "absurd"????


It's only absurd for a "Scale" real life crawler. Technically you could build a comp crawler modeled after a full size crawler and call it scale. I am meaning the scale Toyota's, Bronco's, Jeeps, etc. Trucks that in real life are lifted and running 35" or 37" tires and can go out doing trail crawling, but are still street legal. Which is mostly what "Scale" crawlers are about. Modeling after real life 4x4 vehicles that go offroading and are street legal.

Cool pics though.

[johnnyh66]

I think you're right about a lot of the 1:10 "truck" bodies.
Tuber's tend to look right.
I started out my proline bug/scx 10 on 1.9's and they looked to small. When I took a profile pic of a real bug in photoshop and counted how many "wheels tall" it was... the 2.2's fit much better.

[Ty@Tekin]

I think most of the bodies are more 1/8 scale, like the new bright JK and such. So my tires are only 42"s.

[MG200]

There are so many manufactures of 10th scale bodies and each one makes them a bit different, like all the broncos (there must be 5 or 6 available). Most of us try the best with the parts we have at our disposal to make a scale looking rig.

[mhuffman_81]

Thanks for all the input, guess the general rule of thumb then is if it looks ok then run it.

[sloppy]

Originally Posted by mhuffman_81

It's only absurd for a "Scale" real life crawler. Technically you could build a comp crawler modeled after a full size crawler and call it scale. I am meaning the scale Toyota's, Bronco's, Jeeps, etc. Trucks that in real life are lifted and running 35" or 37" tires and can go out doing trail crawling, but are still street legal. Which is mostly what "Scale" crawlers are about. Modeling after real life 4x4 vehicles that go offroading and are street legal.

Cool pics though.

Maybe you should look at building a 1.9 if you want a street legal truck.. being street legal really is not what scale is about. creating a working scaled down model of a real truck is what its all about, some of us like real trucks that are really capable or single purpose use. I personally dont really drive any of my scalers on the street or to the mall..

[mhuffman_81]

Originally Posted by sloppy

Maybe you should look at building a 1.9 if you want a street legal truck.. being street legal really is not what scale is about. creating a working scaled down model of a real truck is what its all about, some of us like real trucks that are really capable or single purpose use. I personally dont really drive any of my scalers on the street or to the mall..

I am going to build both, starting with a 1.9 SCX10. Most of the scalers I have been looking at here are based on that SCX10. Until looking around here I then realized that most of the 2.2's seem to be a tuber based on realistic rock crawlers. That is where my confusion came from, looking at the SCX10 forums everything is based around normal SUV's or trucks.

[sloppy]

Originally Posted by mhuffman_81

I am going to build both, starting with a 1.9 SCX10. Most of the scalers I have been looking at here are based on that SCX10. Until looking around here I then realized that most of the 2.2's seem to be a tuber based on realistic rock crawlers. That is where my confusion came from, looking at the SCX10 forums everything is based around normal SUV's or trucks.

The scx10 frame mimics a "normal" suv or truck frame.. Which is why you see most of them used for building typical street/trail type rigs. That and they perform pretty well.

[Grizzly4x4]

You won't know the true scale of a body until you scale it out against the 1:1. Even then, some dimensions will be off.

HPI Bronco body 1/8.5 scale

19" wheels
47" tires
113" wheelbase
It all scales out pretty good with the HPI Bronco body, but if you start with a Tamiya Bronco body you will find it is smaller and closer to 1/10 scale.

You do have to build an extreme rig to make 2.2's scale, unless you build a 1/7 scale street rig.

[reddevildemo]

Ok so you want a scale 2.2 equiped truck. Go bigger....1/6th scale then.
2.2 Rok Lox scale out to be 32" tires in 1/6th scale.....then you rin into the issue with the wheels being out of scale 2.2 scale out to be 13" rims.

Never going to be perfect but sometimes close is good enough.

Looks pretty good I think.

[demonoid369]

My thoughts have always been, if you want to use 2.2 then build bigger than 1/10 because yes the 2.2 can work for 1/10 scale tire height but not for wheel size, even in toptruck challenges where they have 52" tires, the rims are only 20" in 1/10 scale you would have 22" wheels..... Heck 1.9 comes closer to scale than that if you multiply it by 10. so if you want to go true scale and work with 1/10, don't use the hilux because it's 1/9 scale and for tires and wheels, your gonna have to do some cutting and shutting, that's what im planning on doing one I get a certain 2.2 tire

[War Pig]

The HPI Bronco body is the perfect scale for a 5.5" tire crawler. I don't think this looks out of scale at all.

[2JSC]

It's all in how "right" it looks in relation to the overall rig than breaking down the numbers... unless you are really that fawking anal, who cares?

[2JSC]

Originally Posted by War Pig

The HPI Bronco body is the perfect scale for a 5.5" tire crawler. I don't think this looks out of scale at all.

Depends on tires... the Pit Bulls totally ruined the look.

[demonoid369]

Originally Posted by War Pig

The HPI Bronco body is the perfect scale for a 5.5" tire crawler. I don't think this looks out of scale at all

And your right it doesn't but to me it's also about the wheel size, not just the tires. you can call me anal but I the the smaller size wheels looks more right for them unless it is 1/8 then it looks fine

Edit: this is what I think is true scale or atleast what I find as "what looks right"
5.4" tall 1.9 TSL's Sayy what?!

[johnnyh66]

What do you guys think? The bug body seems 1:8. I like the 2.2 wheels but think I'll go down a half inch on the tires, I think the Dune X/T's will look really good.

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[Tommy R]

Originally Posted by mhuffman_81

It's only absurd for a "Scale" real life crawler. Technically you could build a comp crawler modeled after a full size crawler and call it scale. I am meaning the scale Toyota's, Bronco's, Jeeps, etc. Trucks that in real life are lifted and running 35" or 37" tires and can go out doing trail crawling, but are still street legal. Which is mostly what "Scale" crawlers are about. Modeling after real life 4x4 vehicles that go offroading and are street legal.

No offense, but this attitude aggravates me. "Scale" does not specifically refer only to street vehicles. "Scale" doesn't equate to "mild". To make an extreme example, a 1/10th version of Bob Chandler's Big Foot is without any question.....scale. Period. Similarly, an RC version of any real world truck is scale as long as it looks/performs like the 1:1. Honestly, it's as simple as that.