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The Real Dogman · 08-14-2008, 08:45 PM

Lapeer, just north of lake orion, right??

breitenbach14 · 08-14-2008, 09:41 PM

how much torque you gonna have? since theres no gru seems like not a whole lot?

Chris_The_Battery_Man · 08-15-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scootertrash

augh DUDE's I got a whole dammm Basement crammed full of all kind's of lil what not's & do dad's "NOW" see what you've Done!?! I got my flashlight in my hand & hatlight turned on, But cover me, "I"M < GOING IN > Man, this is just what I've been waiting for too. just go for it Dude, and please keep us all posted too, and I won't copy this just as you are doing but, I had somewhat of the same Idea too Hmmm, He's really on to something here Guy's just keep watching to see how this is going to turn out . Just as I am too... Scoot'er: L.C.R.C

WOW thanks for the Enthusiasm! I am stoaked about the Idea'r too. I visited my buddy's whom you all know as the hand brothers and am buying jims txt super and may to the worm drive thing on it too

More updates as soon as I get done working on the ol Samurai

sbarnesvta · 08-15-2008, 11:32 AM

looks like it starting to come along, goodluck with the rest of the build

BuzzKilla · 08-15-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by braceysdad

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hey braceysdad when did u get those axl;es made, ive been folowing your thread but there was no update on it :-(

willing to give out some info on them. how they run and what-not....

and Chris, keep those gears in your head turning. i love the build it yourself rigs. too many people have the same setup when it comes to the AX-10, good to see some still like to think out of the box

Chris_The_Battery_Man · 08-17-2008, 01:38 PM

More Progress!!

She sits on her own. Got a better front wire support built, belly, and the rear all done. Not pretty but it's going to have to do until I validate it works well.

And might I add I LOVE TRAXXAS!!! Thanks again to Mitch, I spent like 7 bucks and had everything for my carrier bering. It was a VXL rear carrier, VXL rear stub shaft and x2 5x11 bearings. They may not be high end stuff, but they always have what I need and make great bashing parts/cars.

This is it thus far. But I am going to post more soon... Hopefully should have her done all except the dig in a couple hours

Harley · 08-17-2008, 01:41 PM

Why not just do the same to the rear as you did to the front? Clock the rear up and get rid of the damn driveshafts, give it a real shot at beating the Berg

Chris_The_Battery_Man · 08-17-2008, 04:25 PM

More...

Cant remember what it's called, but the angle of the knuckles dont allow the inside tire to turn as tight as the outside tire. So by making this bracket and lining the mount up with the pivot point of the knuckle that helped eliminate most of it. Thanks to Jim Hand for showing me that;) I also made a little skid and rounded off the edges of the pinion to keep it from shaving down the worm....

Then I got all the electronics in, drove her around the parking lot, and when there is any force put on the wheels and tires, it stalls. Pushes the pinion away from the work. Aparently my idea'r of the ghetto U bolt failed. I can tighten the u-bolt and it helps, but makes the mesh too tight and the worm has a hard time spinning. So Back to the drawing board....

yotachump · 08-18-2008, 08:21 PM

You got me thinking for my Girlfriends AX10 build

sweli · 08-18-2008, 08:51 PM

Interesting idea. I'm watching.

Are you running dual motors, or connecting the drive shaft straight to the rear axle?
The axle will need to run through a carrier with a bearing. Upon wheel lockup, the worm gear is going to be still lifting up on the shaft gear, sideloading the diff pinion bearings.
Fab a beefy center carrier with a bearing around the shaft.

13:1 x 3:1(axial??) = 39:1 Won't she be fast with 6+cells?? Could run 4 sub-C's to start, maybe jump to a 75 or 85 turn motor.

Wheel lock could lift up or pull down and around that whole motor and mount. Where's the BEEF?

Sorry, it's easy for us up here in the 'nose bleed', 'cheap seats' to point out the weakness. I'll stop.

Interesting idea, run with it!!

Chris_The_Battery_Man · 08-19-2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sweli

Interesting idea. I'm watching.

Are you running dual motors, or connecting the drive shaft straight to the rear axle?
The axle will need to run through a carrier with a bearing. Upon wheel lockup, the worm gear is going to be still lifting up on the shaft gear, sideloading the diff pinion bearings.
Fab a beefy center carrier with a bearing around the shaft.

13:1 x 3:1(axial??) = 39:1 Won't she be fast with 6+cells?? Could run 4 sub-C's to start, maybe jump to a 75 or 85 turn motor.

Wheel lock could lift up or pull down and around that whole motor and mount. Where's the BEEF?

Sorry, it's easy for us up here in the 'nose bleed', 'cheap seats' to point out the weakness. I'll stop.

Interesting idea, run with it!!

Well yes I did have issues with the pinion moving. But alst the fact that its brass against hardened steel absorbed alot of energy aswell. So I am going to order a hardened steel worm and make a carrier at the other side of the gear on the pinion shaft and hopefully that will work.

Single motor. I am still wanting to see a shafty win

That and I only had 1 worm lol. As far as speed goes... Were from the pacific northwest and love our wheel speed. The final out put at the drive shaft with the tranny was about 11.7:1 and I thought the axial reduction was 2.2ish to 1...

yotachump · 08-19-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris_The_Battery_Man

So I am going to order a hardened steel worm

From where?? I had a hard time finding some.

binaryterror · 08-19-2008, 12:57 PM

So let me get this straight. Your spending how much to beat a Berg?

Chris_The_Battery_Man · 08-19-2008, 02:26 PM

I only have about 40 bucks into this build... Mainly I am using what I have laying around. So I am not spending hundreds... Plus I think if it works, it will be cooler than a berg. Although they're cool, I am not huge on off the shelf built crawlers...

O.C.D. · 08-19-2008, 02:28 PM

At first this was not something I would imagine coming to fruition. Now though I am wanting to see it tear the crap outta something. I implore you on your tenacity.

j4s0n · 09-10-2008, 11:06 AM

did you manage to resolve your problems with the mesh and worm parting as i would like to do something similar with a tlt axel but dont whant to waist time on something that aint possble

thanx jase

Stormin2u · 09-10-2008, 12:01 PM

That's pretty darn ingenious Chris, a torsion MOA with a drive shaft.

Uli · 09-10-2008, 04:09 PM

I really like your simple but effective knuckle mod. This steering is kickin´some serious butt.

overkillphil · 09-10-2008, 07:00 PM

The fact that the worm gear effectively locks the axel when not spinning will give you insane brakes. I do wonder if it will dig better with the axle locked. Keep up the good work!

666 · 09-10-2008, 07:03 PM

Good luck with that!

08-18-2008, 08:51 PM	#30
sweli RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lake Michigan Posts: 1,898	Loads / Speed / Mounts Interesting idea. I'm watching. Are you running dual motors, or connecting the drive shaft straight to the rear axle? The axle will need to run through a carrier with a bearing. Upon wheel lockup, the worm gear is going to be still lifting up on the shaft gear, sideloading the diff pinion bearings. Fab a beefy center carrier with a bearing around the shaft. 13:1 x 3:1(axial??) = 39:1 Won't she be fast with 6+cells?? Could run 4 sub-C's to start, maybe jump to a 75 or 85 turn motor. Wheel lock could lift up or pull down and around that whole motor and mount. Where's the BEEF? Sorry, it's easy for us up here in the 'nose bleed', 'cheap seats' to point out the weakness. I'll stop. Interesting idea, run with it!!

08-14-2008, 08:45 PM	#21
The Real Dogman RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Indian Village Pontiac Posts: 1,910	Lapeer, just north of lake orion, right??

08-14-2008, 09:41 PM	#22
breitenbach14 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: fair oaks nor-cal Posts: 340	how much torque you gonna have? since theres no gru seems like not a whole lot?

08-15-2008, 11:32 AM	#24
sbarnesvta Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ventura, Ca Posts: 230	looks like it starting to come along, goodluck with the rest of the build

08-17-2008, 01:38 PM	#26
Chris_The_Battery_Man I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Milwaukie OR Posts: 2,078	More Progress!! She sits on her own. Got a better front wire support built, belly, and the rear all done. Not pretty but it's going to have to do until I validate it works well. And might I add I LOVE TRAXXAS!!! Thanks again to Mitch, I spent like 7 bucks and had everything for my carrier bering. It was a VXL rear carrier, VXL rear stub shaft and x2 5x11 bearings. They may not be high end stuff, but they always have what I need and make great bashing parts/cars. This is it thus far. But I am going to post more soon... Hopefully should have her done all except the dig in a couple hours

08-17-2008, 01:41 PM	#27
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	Why not just do the same to the rear as you did to the front? Clock the rear up and get rid of the damn driveshafts, give it a real shot at beating the Berg

08-17-2008, 04:25 PM	#28
Chris_The_Battery_Man I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Milwaukie OR Posts: 2,078	More... Cant remember what it's called, but the angle of the knuckles dont allow the inside tire to turn as tight as the outside tire. So by making this bracket and lining the mount up with the pivot point of the knuckle that helped eliminate most of it. Thanks to Jim Hand for showing me that;) I also made a little skid and rounded off the edges of the pinion to keep it from shaving down the worm.... Then I got all the electronics in, drove her around the parking lot, and when there is any force put on the wheels and tires, it stalls. Pushes the pinion away from the work. Aparently my idea'r of the ghetto U bolt failed. I can tighten the u-bolt and it helps, but makes the mesh too tight and the worm has a hard time spinning. So Back to the drawing board....

08-18-2008, 08:21 PM	#29
yotachump ghetto fabulous newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: with your mom Posts: 2,526	You got me thinking for my Girlfriends AX10 build

08-19-2008, 12:57 PM	#33
binaryterror I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 3,583	So let me get this straight. Your spending how much to beat a Berg?

08-19-2008, 02:26 PM	#34
Chris_The_Battery_Man I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Milwaukie OR Posts: 2,078	I only have about 40 bucks into this build... Mainly I am using what I have laying around. So I am not spending hundreds... Plus I think if it works, it will be cooler than a berg. Although they're cool, I am not huge on off the shelf built crawlers...

08-19-2008, 02:28 PM	#35
O.C.D. RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiatus..sutiaH Posts: 1,620	At first this was not something I would imagine coming to fruition. Now though I am wanting to see it tear the crap outta something. I implore you on your tenacity.

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09-10-2008, 07:03 PM	#40
666 MODERHATER™ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 10,939	Good luck with that!

09-10-2008, 11:06 AM	#36
j4s0n Rock Stacker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: !!! Posts: 91	did you manage to resolve your problems with the mesh and worm parting as i would like to do something similar with a tlt axel but dont whant to waist time on something that aint possble thanx jase

09-10-2008, 12:01 PM	#37
Stormin2u I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2007 Location: Taylors Falls just hanging with the MNRCRC crew. Posts: 7,843	That's pretty darn ingenious Chris, a torsion MOA with a drive shaft.

09-10-2008, 04:09 PM	#38
Uli Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2008 Location: Clarkston Posts: 277	I really like your simple but effective knuckle mod. This steering is kickin´some serious butt.

09-10-2008, 07:00 PM	#39
overkillphil Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kingman Posts: 31	The fact that the worm gear effectively locks the axel when not spinning will give you insane brakes. I do wonder if it will dig better with the axle locked. Keep up the good work!

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