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Old 06-23-2009, 01:11 PM   #21
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So, are we talking about a 2 or 3 speed dual dig trans from axial?
Or are we talking wormies or moas?
Maybe a crawler where we can control all 4 wheels seperately?
A real 1.9 to compete in the mini classes?
Maybe 1/24th scale axles to go under model bodies?
I don't think the super would be as popular as a 1.9, but I could be wrong.

Or something completely different?

I think Axial easily has the ability to make a dig trans. Shoot I have an idea on what I would do if I were them, and it wouldn't really be that difficult to do. Maybe they can hire me, and I can help them develop what we need.


Axial - you can't say "something bigger" without giving us a glimpse of what it might be.
please no girly stuff like moa or wormgears
a bigger shafty with 7:1 diff gears will be the right
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:10 PM   #22
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A little bird told me MOA's are on the to do list for AXIAL. Sorry guys your secrets is out. Cant wait
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:14 PM   #23
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A little bird told me MOA's are on the to do list for AXIAL. Sorry guys your secrets is out. Cant wait
I heard that rumor too but I just cant see that happening. Anyone 100% sure on this?
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A little bird told me MOA's are on the to do list for AXIAL. Sorry guys your secrets is out. Cant wait
That'll be the day
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Stuck your neck in a noose now FlyinH
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:27 AM   #26
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I heard worm drive MOA's!
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please no girly stuff like moa or wormgears
a bigger shafty with 7:1 diff gears will be the right
Agreed!
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:34 AM   #28
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I heard worm drive MOA's!


Wait, that would actually be interesting, you could use low turn or brushless motors, but have the gear reduction to climb...

I would just love to see axial do something different than the AX10 axle. They've been highly successul with it, but expanding their available options would be a smart move.

If they go MOA, I think they need to do something that makes it better than the current MOA options, something to set them apart.

I really think they should get into the Mini axles. They just need to shrink and tweak their current design, and they will have something to compete with the MRC.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:27 AM   #29
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i dont really care WHAT it is.

I just hope its to the benefit of all those whom comp w/ 2.2 axial. if Axial doesnt come up with the new tech to keep us compeitive, they might loose the 2.2 market.

if axial came out with new axels, id buy them just because theyre axial.

but then again, im not directed by profit margins...
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I was on axials webpage for the AX10 and they had a poll going for what people wanted to see next including, worm gears, MOA and a dig for the scorpion.
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I was on axials webpage for the AX10 and they had a poll going for what people wanted to see next including, worm gears, MOA and a dig for the scorpion.

Um link please. I went to there site and couldn't find that poll.
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Um link please. I went to there site and couldn't find that poll.
Here you go, srcoll down to the bottom http://www.axialracing.com/ftp/ax10options/index.html

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Here you go, srcoll down to the bottom http://www.axialracing.com/ftp/ax10options/index.html
Yeah, kind of toward the bottom on the right.

I voted for the dig, looks like its in the lead. Lol
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Old 07-01-2009, 05:43 PM   #34
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If I were running Axial, or at least the product development in the crawler section, I'd do the following:

Make a dig for the AX10 transmission. There's a whole crap load of people with that trans that would love a factory dig. (I've got an idea for one, I'd love to help design. It would be bind free and have more than 20 points of engagement, as well as smaller than anything on the market now, able to shift with a low-torque servo.)

Make some upgraded electronics; stronger servo, programmable ESC, open-can motors, etc.

Make a few more metal upgrades; driveshafts, rod ends, etc.

Update the Rock Lizards to a Comp Lizard, new tread pattern, sticky compounds.

Contract or design a competition low cog chassis.

Use the dig/trans combo, upgrade elecs, and some metal components in a Competition Ready Crawler, it would have:
AX10 Axles,
AX10 Trans with dig,
Aluminum c's/knuckles/rear lockouts, driveshafts/yokes, rod ends, links, 4-link plates,
Their new "mmm buttery smooth" shocks
Minimum 200oz/in servo
Programmable ESC with drag brake, capable of 3S lipo, with a strong enough BEC to handle the 2 servos
3Ch radio system (2.4 gHz?) with a 3 position 3rd channel
Include heavy duty CVDs and BTA kit in package
Weight replaceable wheels and selection of tire foams (think VP's wheels)
New body styles, something to compete with the losi grappler body that a lot of winning drivers use.

MSRP $500. (Street prices would be about $400ish maybe, maybe less)
Also, if they go MOA, have a similarly equipped version so we could choose between shafty

Now, why would Axial want to make a CRC? Well, let's see, what's the average price someone spends on a competition crawler? Probably 350 - 500 or more depending on their radio and other things. Of that half or less than half goes to Axial for the base kit/rtr/artr/rtc/naked axles. The rest of the money goes to the aftermarket. If they came out with some smarter products, they can retain some of the market share, and in effect make more money. Of course offer all these parts seperately for those to upgrade their current AX10 to a comp ready crawler.

The radio system may be hard to include in the CRC, so if that's left out, I'm sure a lot of guys would look at switching.

It seems that Axial's mission was to stay ahead of the curve, and when the AX10 came out, it was, but it's starting to stagnate, and a lot of money is going to the aftermarket. Now, I'm not advocating boycotting the aftermarket, this will sort of force them to innovate and come out with something even better than what Axial will come out with.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but if Axial wants more market share, they need to make something to upgrade to (beyond their current upgrades.)
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Old 07-02-2009, 05:40 AM   #35
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There's a heap of other dig units out on the market. I'm of the opinion that they won't bring one out as there is a probability its not as good as others already out, and thus they may not sell the quantity they need to justify it (commercially). Unless of course, it ran a slipper or cone clutch instead of a dog clutch and gave us proportional drive to the back!
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:21 AM   #36
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just before the Losi 1/10 hit the market I heard that Axial was about to come out with a tranny with F & R dig (like the Losi). I called them and the guy I spoke to in development didn't deny it and it sounded like either he didn't want to lie about it or he wanted me to believe that I was right about it. But, he told me that there would not be N E thing out before Christmas and maybe early next year. i think it's a front & rear dig tranny. just my 2 cents.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:26 PM   #37
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It will blow all your minds.



I can say no more ....
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It will blow all your minds.



I can say no more ....

I hear barking but I don't see any big dogs running around...

When they release it, we'll see how blown my mind will be. I am a little skeptical to say the least.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:36 PM   #39
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How bout a small teaser or least an estimated unveiling date?
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Old 07-30-2009, 09:09 PM   #40
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ebay has a dig for the ac10 just saw it today
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